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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 24, 2014, 12:14:13 PM »
Ops guys forgot I also have Payback on my GP2X, haven't fired it up in ages but it looked good on that system :)

Also Thanks for clarifying that the Amiga PPC and Mac versions look the same besides resolution.

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I played Payback, or rather the demo, on my A1200/030 and it played fine. This was of course the top view.

I never tried 3d view as I was told it was on 68K but I never saw a 68K Payback with 3d. Not n the demo anyway.

Please explain what you mean by 3D and 2D view, as far as ive seen there is only top view on all versions?

Also I don't understand how you was able to play it on a 030, do the 7 patches do that much really so it's playable on a 030 AGA machine? Ive made posts on this topic in the past and not a single person said it was playable on a 030 and I have never got it near playable at all on a 030.

Tho ive only tried the retail full version never the Demo, ill fire up a 030 and try the demo this weekend.
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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2014, 06:08:46 PM »
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Please explain what you mean by 3D and 2D view, as far as ive seen there is only top view on all versions?


Sorry I'm going from memory. By 2d I meant the default view that scrolls around. By 3d I meant the rotating view which is more fancy.

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Also I don't understand how you was able to play it on a 030, do the 7 patches do that much really so it's playable on a 030 AGA machine?


I only played the demo. No patches. So had no fancy rotating. It would have been the default view and most likely effects were turned off.

The only working Amiga I have right now is an A4000/060/RTG so not a fair comparison. Right now my A1200/030 refuses to boot. Got a yellow screen stuck. Now black screen. Need to pull my DKB 1240 and test. I sold my other A1200 to free up space so hope it's not that!
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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2014, 08:23:36 PM »
Payback with a 060@80MHz with a Voodoo 5 card is great, 640x480 with hardware acceleration. It's almost like playing the original GTA. Only thing I don't like is some of the sound effects are terrible. Play it now and then but other games are more fun.
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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2014, 02:45:30 AM »
Sorry Vanilla, tried Payback tonight, tried it with lowest setting no updates and it ran less then 1fps, installed update 7 and made smallest window and flares etc off and runs around 1-2fps so little better but far from playable on a 030 :/

Still bummed they wrote minimum requirements 020 and 16MB ram... thats just a lie and then the game would run under a frame per second, id like to see them complete the game that way xD

Dammit, might be time for me to scout for a 040/060 :)
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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2014, 03:56:06 PM »
maybe it needs 68020 with some fastRAM to be at least playable ?
 

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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2014, 04:32:45 PM »
I have two AGA amigas, 040 and 060 with them it is perfectly playable and very fun game. It also works nicely with Sam / Petunia.

I could easily belive that it is NOT playable anything less than 040
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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2014, 06:27:50 PM »
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maybe it needs 68020 with some fastRAM to be at least playable ?

No no, I got a 030 and 63MB fastRAM and it't not even close to playable :/

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I have two AGA amigas, 040 and 060 with them it is perfectly playable and very fun game. It also works nicely with Sam / Petunia.

I could easily belive that it is NOT playable anything less than 040

Yeah not playable at all, strange that Apex sets minimum to far from playable tho :/

I will have to keep playing on OSX and MorphOS and maybe on my GP2X I might try the GBA version with a card adapter on my SNES tho :)

I must get my hands on a 040/060 soon and retire the ACA1231 and use it on a A500 or something :)
 

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Re: Payback Amiga vs Mac vs GBA.
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2014, 08:22:53 AM »
Played the game many years ago on a 66MHz 1260 Blizzard, it ran very well at low resolution with the windowsize dropped down a notch or two. Immensely fun at the time, one of the few games I recall that made use of the '060. Ofc the Mac version was considerably better.

I managed to get the Warp3D version working on an A2000 with an '060 and CV64/3D, albeit very slowly. (Obviously some type of bug, as it would alternate between being perfectly playable and slow as molasses.)

The game has lost it's charm for me at least, I don't think it aged as well as some of the older "traditional" Amiga games.