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Offline TheBilgeRat

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2013, 12:10:22 AM »
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I filed it under Emulation, might give you a clue? :-)
 
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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2013, 12:59:15 AM »
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Impressive that an operating system older than the DVD format can display a picture with more pixels compared to Full HD..

Not really. It simply depends on the monitor driver you're using.
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2013, 02:45:03 AM »
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Not really. It simply depends on the monitor driver you're using.


I remember when I first got OS4 back in 2004.  I'd had the A1 for about a year and was using a 14" Acer monitor I'd borrowed from my brother.  Linux had restricted me to a max of 800x600 so when I got play with P96 I decided to try and push out the max resolution of 2048x1536 just for fun.  Amazingly it worked, it was as flickery as hell and totally unusable due to the small size of everything on that tiny 14" screen.

I think I settled for for 1024x768* proudly telling myself that Amiga was way better than Linux.

Now I use a 24" LCD at 1920x1200 and can't really imagine going back to tiny screens with low resolutions for Workbench use.

*maybe even 1280x1024, I know that I was able to get a stable image at higher resolutions than the Debian installer had made available to me.
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 03:21:51 AM »
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I remember when I first got OS4 back in 2004.  I'd had the A1 for about a year and was using a 14" Acer monitor I'd borrowed from my brother.  Linux had restricted me to a max of 800x600 so when I got play with P96 I decided to try and push out the max resolution of 2048x1536 just for fun.  Amazingly it worked, it was as flickery as hell and totally unusable due to the small size of everything on that tiny 14" screen.

Under AOS that simply depends on the drivers. AOS3.x supports Workbenches up to 16384x16384 pixels in size (perhaps 2.x as well). Under Linux it may simply have been a driver issue, where the desktop was restricted to what the driver could display.
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2013, 03:56:19 AM »
I've been using a 1920x1080 Workbench on my A4000 for ages.  It is set at the maximum resolution of my monitor, so I don't see the need to exceed it.  :)
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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2013, 10:13:47 AM »
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Not really. It simply depends on the monitor driver you're using.

Not true.
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2013, 10:15:45 AM »
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I've been using a 1920x1080 Workbench on my A4000 for ages. It is set at the maximum resolution of my monitor, so I don't see the need to exceed it. :)

What GFX card do you have? I've have not seen one displaying above 1600x1200 in more than 8-bit :/
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2013, 12:16:53 PM »
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What GFX card do you have? I've have not seen one displaying above 1600x1200 in more than 8-bit :/


I'm guessing it's a pci card thru mediator.

But the workbench in the skydrive pic is thru winUAE yeah?
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2013, 12:27:00 PM »
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Not true.

Yeah, right :rolleyes:
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2013, 01:39:57 PM »
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Impressive that an operating system older than the DVD format can display a picture with more pixels compared to Full HD..

It's not that impressive. If you need a higher resolution than 256 x 256, it makes sense to support 65536 x 65536. No idea if there are any issues with that though, because some of the code might think all calculations can fit into a word and when you have windows wrapping off the left or right of the screen then you might run into problems.
 
The os can probably handle 8192 x 8192 without any problems. It should be possible to test this as most graphics cards can set up scrolling displays larger than your monitor.
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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2013, 01:55:30 PM »
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The os can probably handle 8192 x 8192 without any problems.

Maximum is 16384x16384, you can see it in the screen mode prefs.
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2013, 02:20:44 PM »
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Under AOS that simply depends on the drivers. AOS3.x supports Workbenches up to 16384x16384 pixels in size (perhaps 2.x as well). Under Linux it may simply have been a driver issue, where the desktop was restricted to what the driver could display.


I think Linux was limited by what the monitor was telling the Linux driver it could handle.  I'm sure I was able able to get 1600x1200 out of my 17" Viewsonic when I plugged that in.  The Viewsonic stayed at my parents house where it was used with my A1200 and I eventually got a 19" TFT to use with the A1.

I imagine that it's probably possible to manually configure the display driver in Linux but I didn't know much about Linux and didn't care to learn.
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2013, 02:24:12 PM »
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I'd look, but this SkyDrive bullcrap won't let me because *haughty sniff* my browser isn't new enough. In the future, you might want to put this kind of stuff on a less stupid service like ImageShack.


Agreed Skydrive is crap! Why does anyone use it?
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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2013, 02:26:46 PM »
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I think Linux was limited by what the monitor was telling the Linux driver it could handle. I'm sure I was able able to get 1600x1200 out of my 17" Viewsonic when I plugged that in. The Viewsonic stayed at my parents house where it was used with my A1200 and I eventually got a 19" TFT to use with the A1.
 
I imagine that it's probably possible to manually configure the display driver in Linux but I didn't know much about Linux and didn't care to learn.

All digital and the last analog-only monitors use DDC to tell the graphics card and the driver the resolution the monitor supports.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel
 

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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2013, 03:21:10 PM »
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What GFX card do you have? I've have not seen one displaying above 1600x1200 in more than 8-bit :/


As Gertsy said, I use a Radeon card on a Mediator busboard.  Works great.
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Re: 2560x1200 WB
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 03, 2013, 03:53:25 PM »
@kickstart

Of course! Emulators are like "sex dolls"... not the same as real amigas :D
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