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UAE vs real A1200
« on: January 12, 2005, 03:17:30 PM »
I have just played around with uae briefly and am impressed. Seeing as I only use my amiga for running octamed I am considering getting rid of my real amiga. Can anyone tell me the pro and cons of this, as I could use the money right now (PPC card to sell on ebay....)
Also does anyone know what settings to use to get the native output to fill a TFT monitor  with a native resolution of 1280x1024?
 

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2005, 03:25:02 PM »
I run OctaMED on WinUAE, on my 3Ghz machine it works like a dream. But I still keep my Miggies as nothing beats the actual sound of a real amiga. :-D

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2005, 03:36:32 PM »
WinUAE is great - not everyone is lucky enough to have a real Amiga (sadly)...

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2005, 07:25:39 PM »
Got rid of my amiga thinking uae would do the trick, well it comes close and does a good job but here I am with a new amiga. It wasn't real enough for me.
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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2005, 07:31:13 PM »
WinUAE yeah great if you want to run things faster.
Not so great if you want the true Amiga experience, nothing will ever beat the real machines for that.
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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2005, 07:41:44 PM »
On my 3.2GHz PC WinUAE reports it is a 700MHz 68040!!! (With a good benchmark program)  Thats with full sound enabled... ADoom and Quake run great on it too! :banana:
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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2005, 08:35:25 PM »
UAE runs all too slow on my Pentium III, 500 MHz. How much faster does it run on let say 2000 MHz Celeron, about 4 times? or faster?
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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2005, 10:08:17 PM »
I use WinUAE mainly for graphics, Dpaint and things like that.
But for games, demos and other fun nothing beats the real deal, the A500 and the A1200. Also the TV should be 21" or bigger and connected by a SCART-to-23pinRGB cable. :-D

So I say keep a minimum bare Amiga for the fun and use UAE for the serious stuff.


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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2005, 03:03:31 PM »
@ CyberStorm

Probably 3 times faster, the Celeron has a much smaller L2 cache than the Pentium, that's why it sells for less.  Celerons have essentially the same core as the Pentiums, (they are the ones which didn't make the grade for running at a higher clock speed) minus the expensive L2.
 

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2005, 11:27:36 PM »
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Probably 3 times faster, the Celeron has a much smaller L2 cache than the Pentium, that's why it sells for less.  Celerons have essentially the same core as the Pentiums, (they are the ones which didn't make the grade for running at a higher clock speed) minus the expensive L2.

Any celeron before the Celeron E is a castrated piece of sh1t and not worth touching with someone elses.  Literally half the speed of the same clocked P4's in anything where the speed amtters. In things where it didn't they were fine but thats about as much use as a snooze button for a smoke alarm.
Celeron E's however are a bit special.  Only seem to be less than 10% slower in the things that matter than a real P4.
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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2005, 11:55:35 PM »
UAE might seem faster on pure cpu power and such, but try a game that really takes advantage of the amiga custom chipset, then you will see that it runs far from as smooth as on the real thing... A scroller game or demo is a real nice test for this.

Emulators can never replace the real thing in my opinion...
But it does depend on what you use it for.. if you are going to for example render something in a amiga rendering program, then i see the advantage using a emulator instead of the standard a1200.
 

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2005, 11:59:11 PM »
winuae is great. however no matter how fast cpu you have
games that scroll wont look smooth (directx is crap!).
also full implementation of AGA is not what i call %100 the real amiga is way better in that regard. the real amiga has better sound aswell which is unusual because it's only 8bit!

but yeah winuae has come along way but not long enough.
there should be a program from within winae that calls the floppy changer. the windows floppy changer does spoil the illusion.

but with the offical release of version 1. hopefully it will be better.
 

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2005, 01:29:51 AM »
you only have to look at how poor the simple scrolling banner scrrensaver works to realise that windows can't move graphics about smoothly, but apart from maybe playing frontier, payback and a few other classics that shouldn't really bother me,although I could in theory return the a1200 to it's stock config, apart ffrom maybe a hard drive controller and connect it to the pc tv card, that way i'd have the best of both worlds, and raise some cash selling my blizzard ppc and mediator etc. Hmm, but I do enjoy the idea of still using such and old machine on the web etc....
 

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2005, 01:53:02 AM »
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winuae is great. however no matter how fast cpu you have

OpenGL is definitely better than at this yeah, but it still is far from as good as a amiga, due to limitations in the pc design itself...
 

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Re: UAE vs real A1200
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2005, 02:14:44 AM »
OpenGL is definitely better than at this yeah, but it still is far from as good as a amiga, due to limitations in the pc design itself...


spot on!! man. but hey winuae is FAST though, alot faster than my A1200 anyway.