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My first Mac! (A classic).
« on: September 11, 2009, 07:01:26 PM »
I finally did the un-imaginable and got a PowerMac. Spotted it in a local shop (Cash Generators) at a small (ish) sum of £39.95. As I have only put a deposit down as I have yet to collect it so detail is a little vague but looking at it, i'd guess it's an early - mid 90's one. It had PowerPC stamped on it and the model was a 4 digit number with a /60 on the end. As soon as I get it I will upload pictures of it.
It seems to have yellowed a tad but it is complete with monitor, keyboard and mouse.

P.s. Secret confession: Never really liked Macs that much but have always admired ones pre late 90's. :o
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 07:27:37 PM »
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I finally did the un-imaginable and got a PowerMac. Spotted it in a local shop (Cash Generators) at a small (ish) sum of £39.95. As I have only put a deposit down as I have yet to collect it so detail is a little vague but looking at it, i'd guess it's an early - mid 90's one. It had PowerPC stamped on it and the model was a 4 digit number with a /60 on the end. As soon as I get it I will upload pictures of it.
It seems to have yellowed a tad but it is complete with monitor, keyboard and mouse.

P.s. Secret confession: Never really liked Macs that much but have always admired ones pre late 90's. :o


@ 40 quid, Cash Converters saw you coming.

I've got a Macintosh Plus, Imac G3, G4 and PowerMac AGP0 and  all yours for only 999.99 pounds.

Interested ?
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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 07:34:18 PM »
Wow, I threw out a nicer one than that a couple weeks ago.  OS8 and 9 aren't good for much these days.
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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 07:50:00 PM »
Got a 9500 (first PCI one) for free, upgraded it with a G4/1000, ~800 MB RAM and an 18 Gig HDD and it's now running Tiger.
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 07:54:41 PM »
Why???
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 08:03:03 PM »
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the model was a 4 digit number with a /60 on the end.


oops.. can only be one model, the 6100/60

The absolutely 1st ever PPC model (ever)... very shortly afterwards replaced by the /66 (Mhz)

congrats & oops.... 1ste ever and slowest ever PPC model:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/stats/powermac_6100_60.html

(or one of its variants)

I was the lucky user of a 6100/66 :-) it did beat the crap out of my 486/66

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 08:13:14 PM »
Threw out better ones, bargen bacement???... I'm not fussed really, it's a first one for me and in good condition plus there's not often on eBay at resonable money. I think it might be a 60Mhz OS7 one but maybe it can be upgraded? Any light on that subject?
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 08:15:55 PM »
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Threw out better ones, bargen bacement???... I'm not fussed really, it's a first one for me and in good condition plus there's not often on eBay at resonable money. I think it might be a 60Mhz OS7 one but maybe it can be upgraded? Any light on that subject?

Stick Mac on the end of your signature if your going to put miggies you might as well add macs ;)
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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 08:57:26 PM »
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Stick Mac on the end of your signature if your going to put miggies you might as well add macs ;)


I may just do that, thanks! Will get more info before I do though.
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 09:03:52 PM »
The problem with retro PPC or 68k macs is that the experience doesn't match amiga. I ususally find myself having to go up one generation on hardware and down one generation on software:

For example:
A PPC 8500 with 128 megs running 8.1 and Photoshop 4 is nice. Marathon plays nice, dark forces. But an Amiga with a GFX card is better in my opinion. With an 060 and Fusion Mac I was really impressed with the functionality of a 128 meg Phase 5 060 card. Switching back and forth using CGFX was great. Really impressed PC and Mac afficionados up till 1999 with this setup.

I recently took the 8500 apart as it was totally worthless.
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 09:12:13 PM »
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Threw out better ones, bargen bacement???... I'm not fussed really, it's a first one for me and in good condition plus there's not often on eBay at resonable money. I think it might be a 60Mhz OS7 one but maybe it can be upgraded? Any light on that subject?


I found the following on lowendmac.com  I think you should be able to upgrade to OS 9...

Overview

The 6100/60 was the entry-level Power Mac
when Apple introduced the line in March 1994. Built into the Quadra 610 case, the 6100 contains a PDS which can be converted to a NuBus slot with an adapter. To save money, the 6100 uses RAM for video (up to 615 KB, depending on resolution and bit-depth), not separate VRAM. Thus, one way to improve performance is to add a video card, either Apple AV card or a third-party one. (This also makes it possible to run two monitors.) Another is to add a 1 MB level 2 cache, as noted on our benchmark page. More details at PowerMac 6100 Graphics Performance.

The 6100 was upgraded to 66 MHz in January 1995.

See our NuBus Video Card Guide for information on adding a NuBus video card, which will also require a NuBus adapter.

Variants

6100av. Includes video-in and video-out. Supports 19" and 21" monitors. Has 2 MB VRAM. (AV card can be added to any 6100 with a free PDS slot.)

6100 DOS compatible. Card includes a 66 MHz 486DX2 CPU, SVGA output, and a single SIMM slot supporting up to 32 MB RAM. DOS card can share RAM with Macintosh, which is slower, or use its own memory. (DOS Compatibility Card can be added to any 6100 with a free PDS slot.)
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 09:16:28 PM »
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I found the following on lowendmac.com  I think you should be able to upgrade to OS 9...

Overview

The 6100/60 was the entry-level Power Mac
when Apple introduced the line in March 1994. Built into the Quadra 610 case, the 6100 contains a PDS which can be converted to a NuBus slot with an adapter. To save money, the 6100 uses RAM for video (up to 615 KB, depending on resolution and bit-depth), not separate VRAM. Thus, one way to improve performance is to add a video card, either Apple AV card or a third-party one. (This also makes it possible to run two monitors.) Another is to add a 1 MB level 2 cache, as noted on our benchmark page. More details at PowerMac 6100 Graphics Performance.

The 6100 was upgraded to 66 MHz in January 1995.

See our NuBus Video Card Guide for information on adding a NuBus video card, which will also require a NuBus adapter.

Variants

6100av. Includes video-in and video-out. Supports 19" and 21" monitors. Has 2 MB VRAM. (AV card can be added to any 6100 with a free PDS slot.)

6100 DOS compatible. Card includes a 66 MHz 486DX2 CPU, SVGA output, and a single SIMM slot supporting up to 32 MB RAM. DOS card can share RAM with Macintosh, which is slower, or use its own memory. (DOS Compatibility Card can be added to any 6100 with a free PDS slot.)


Ah great so it's not all doom and gloom, I bet the hardware is expensive nowerdays...
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2009, 09:17:25 PM »
I am sorry to say this, but I would get your money back.  You could get much better for free, or very little money more.  The model you are getting was reviewed as being slower than the fastest 68040 Macs that preceded it at many tasks.  You could probably run MacOS7 faster on an Amiga with ShapeShifter, or Emplant, or Fusion and a 68060/50MHz than your 60MHz PPC Mac.
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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 09:28:54 PM »
Truth be told iv been looking for one like this for ages but they have usually been out of my league or not even for sale. I still dont really know the exact spec or the internal hardware as yet.
 

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Re: My first Mac! (A classic).
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2009, 10:03:07 PM »
I had a power mac, left it by the kerb side hoping somebody would take it, no one did, so I left it by an OP-shop after they closed....
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