A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls

[SysAdmin]

We at Amiga.org like to keep a positive attitude and a glass half full approach. While we don’t think the Amiga well displace all the Windows machines in the world tomorrow we do feel there is room in the computer industry for Amiga OS, AROS & MorphOS. 10,000-100,000 active users is a nice goal to shoot for, even one million active if we get really lucky. Even if it’s a secondary machine or hobby, fans of these alternative operating systems should not be persecuted for their choice of computer fun.

Constructive criticism is of course welcome and helps developers improve their products. But if you come to Amiga.org solely to spew hate and negativity towards MorphOS, X-1000, AROS, Amiga, Etc this will no longer be tolerated.

Negative comments will be taken in context of the rests of your posts. Idea exchanges and great debates are welcome but Amiga.org will not be a platform for any Amiga hate spreading or fud. If this is your repeated goal you might just find your account no longer working here. If another platform not Amiga, MorphOS or AROS related is your passion then perhaps a forum for that system is a better fit for you? We like to keep the site family friendly and fun. Amiga fans new and old are welcome here and positive communication is recommended. If you only have something bad to say maybe you should keep it to yourself? Jokes are still welcome of course as is healthy debate and intellectual exchanges. This is just a general message and is not aimed at any one member.

Enjoy Amiga.org and keep it happy.

[the_leander]

And so it begins.

[runequester]

To be honest, I've gotten tired enough of this stuff, that with a few exceptions, I pretty much ignore any threads on here that are not explicitly classic hardware / software.

[Amiga_Nut]

I have no issue with people who want to use OS4, MOS or AROS. I don't believe MOS is Amiga as such, but AROS is a great project and OS4 still has features Windows would be wise to implement. But then again I don't count any of these as actual next gen' Amigas.

I would love someone to make something at least remotely value for money AND fast to run OS4 today. I would love for something mass produced in this category to appear and be an alternative (I don't like Apple...any company who thinks iPhone and iPad that can't access Flash based websites is acceptable is stupid) and we all know Windows is bloatware. Windows is a 3 tonne GT cruiser, what the world needs is a Formula 1 style 600kg 1500bhp/tonne agile machine as an alternative. PS3/360 get by quite happily using a less powerful CPU than the fastest i7 based PC gaming rigs but they don't do anything better at 400% of the cost of PS3. This is the kind of niche you want, intelligent design giving you more bang for less bucks. That's what Amiga always was and that's where her immortal soul will always rest as far as I am concerned. I am sad to say there is no hardware for sale that I would consider buying today.

Call me mad but even a few years ago had the right geek met the right entrepreneur with money to burn met we could have got something really amazing and still PPC compatible. I just wish some people as talented as the VIC-II/SID or Paula/Agnus/Denise designers would just come along and glue together certain bits of certain disposably cheap console and just make something a bit more 'special' out there in price/performance terms than Macs (no games) and OTT PC gaming rigs spending 50% CPU just executing the Win7 kernel for people to go 'wow' over that's all. Call me negative if you want for that but I think that's what all old skool Amiga fans who lived those days want too.

And for the record Amiga 1000 launch was the only time I ever really dropped my jaw over a personal computer's specs and the reality of owning it in my life...you can't get more enthusiastic about classic Amiga than me.

[ChaosLord]

@Transition

Yeah! :banana:
  Thank God you had the boing balls to say that!  :bowdown:



If I had purchased Amiga.org I would have posted such an announcement the very first day.


Transition = Best Admin Ever!
Transition FTW!

[koaftder]

Keep this site the way it was when Wayne was in charge, that's all I ask.

[ElPolloDiabl]

You forgot the FPGA based Amiga camp.

Hold on... "Windows 7 rules! I can play Crysis and BFBC and NFS and GTA on my 8 core Xeon. I probably have a job in Microsoft as a mail clerk or janitor. Amiga is a joke with only 5 users. Macs are overpriced and turn you into a zombie when you use it!"


So I assume this is mostly aimed at the MorphOS and AROS bashing? What about fair criticism of the X1000s ridiculous price?

[SysAdmin]

You forgot the FPGA based Amiga camp.
 
Hold on... "Windows 7 rules! I can play Crysis and BFBC and NFS and GTA on my 8 core Xeon. I probably have a job in Microsoft as a mail clerk or janitor. Amiga is a joke with only 5 users. Macs are overpriced and turn you into a zombie when you use it!"
 
 
So I assume this is mostly aimed at the MorphOS and AROS bashing? What about fair criticism of the X1000s ridiculous price?

Off with your head!
 

 

Just kidding, as already stated, fair criticism is allowed and can be a learning experience for developers. Amiga.org is very tolerate and this warning is to prevent someone from getting way out of line and upsetting many members. Posts are also taken in context to what the poster has contributed to Amiga.org in the past. Everyone has a bad day now and then.

[crawff]

I'm glad this has been brought up now, it is a shame how bad Amiga World has got over the last few months and we can't allow Amiga Org to follow the same path.

[kolla]

For my own account, turn amiga.org into amigaworld.net and I'm outta here.

In my view, amiga.org is one of the _very few_ international amiga sites where one is actually allowed to express ones views without constantly having the troll-screaming crybabies and insane moderation ruining everything - remove that I don't see the point in this site.

[crawff]

Agreed.

[kolla]

I'm glad this has been brought up now, it is a shame how bad Amiga World has got over the last few months and we can't allow Amiga Org to follow the same path.

We clearly have completely different views on things - I see thread as a threat to do exactly that, turn amiga.org into what amigaworld.net is (and has been for quite a few years already).

The crap on amiga.org started when a bunch of amigaworld.net "activists" came over here to repeat their nonsense, people like DAX, takemetograndma etc. The liberating thing with amiga.org is that here one has so far been allowed to call bullshit on these people, and let them know.

[SysAdmin]

For my own account, turn amiga.org into amigaworld.net and I'm outta here.
 
In my view, amiga.org is one of the _very few_ international amiga sites where one is actually allowed to express ones views without constantly having the troll-screaming crybabies and insane moderation ruining everything - remove that I don't see the point in this site.

No worries, that is not going to happen.

[kolla]

Thanks, I was starting to worry a little

[the_leander]

For my own account, turn amiga.org into amigaworld.net and I'm outta here.

In my view, amiga.org is one of the _very few_ international amiga sites where one is actually allowed to express ones views without constantly having the troll-screaming crybabies and insane moderation ruining everything - remove that I don't see the point in this site.

Agreed 100%

Some of us have very long memories about where that particular path led AW too.