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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: Florida on February 10, 2011, 02:03:08 AM
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Is it possible through software to make the LCD screen look like an old tube television? You know where you can pinpoint each pixel. Or how about how they did in the movie 'RoboCop'; the way the picture looks like when we see the view of RoboCop, like every 3rd or fourth line is faded in a group of also 3 or 4 lines.
I thought it could be fun to watch older movies with such a plug-in or software that could create such a look, without having to acquire an old CRT.
I looked for an iTunes plugin but I had no luck in my search.
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Actually on Robocop, they used a physical filter with actual thread pulled across! I learned that from the Criterion collection LD
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Some emulators have filter settings where you can black every 2nd or 3rd line to get the effect your talking about.
might help: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=114921
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I know this is not Windows 7 but, the Indivision AGA is rumored to have a scan line emulation mode that I think would be similar to what your talking about.
Perhaps a try doing a google search for "scan line emulation".
Regards,
AmigaEd
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old LCD + sharpie + ruler + 30mins
:)
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This is what I've seen:
http://www.retrothing.com/2009/05/making-vintage-games-look-like-they-used-to.html (http://www.retrothing.com/2009/05/making-vintage-games-look-like-they-used-to.html)
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Very interesting...even that screensaver that was mentioned in one of the links. Well, maybe one day.
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Try search for 'SLG3000'. There is also a video on YouTube regarding this thing. It comes with VGA, I am not sure if it is possible to get one with HDMI which would be awesome but at least it is a start. It is hardware not software and that is okay, it seems to work perfectly.
YouTube video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzPqwkREvKE
Info from: http://www.arcadeforge.de/
The SLG3000 is a small PCB which allows you to display CRT'esque scanlines on VGA CRTs, LCDs or Plasmas displays. The SLG3000 has a VGA input and a VGA output connector, a potentionmeter to adjust the scanline density and a few dip switches to adjust to the source signal's sync polarity.
An on/off switch can be attached using screw terminals.
- Who created the SLG3000 ?
Winfried Ellenbeck (winni) and Jochen Zurborg (bencao74) from Germany.
- Where can I order the SLG3000 ?
Either from Jochen's page ( http://www.arcadeforge.de/ ) or via PM to bencao74.
- How much is the SLG3000 ?
It's 49 EUR plus a very affordable shipping rate.
Edit: Question: If the TV supports VGA, how do you input sound?
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Interlacing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlacing) is the word you're looking for :)
It can be emulated by various players, as well as setting the 4:3 ratio (I know XBMC does support it)
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I know this is not Windows 7 but, the Indivision AGA is rumored to have a scan line emulation mode that I think would be similar to what your talking about.
Perhaps a try doing a google search for "scan line emulation".
Regards,
AmigaEd
Not Indivision AGA, but Indivision ECS which has 2 discrete video mode filters: Scanline and TV emulation mode.
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Interlacing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlacing) is the word you're looking for :)
It can be emulated by various players, as well as setting the 4:3 ratio (I know XBMC does support it)
Well, partly - the aperture grille or shadow mask of a CRT contributes a lot to this look as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_mask
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille
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Is it possible through software to make the LCD screen look like an old tube television? You know where you can pinpoint each pixel. Or how about how they did in the movie 'RoboCop'; the way the picture looks like when we see the view of RoboCop, like every 3rd or fourth line is faded in a group of also 3 or 4 lines.
I thought it could be fun to watch older movies with such a plug-in or software that could create such a look, without having to acquire an old CRT.
I looked for an iTunes plugin but I had no luck in my search.
its called getting crt tv for like few bucks never ceases maze me why people
go to so much trouble to emulate someting when real things always better
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If I mount a CRT on the wall I will not be able to open the door to the room. :eek: Next month I am going to order this gadget. How do you hook up sound when using a VGA on a flat screen TV?
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its called getting crt tv for like few bucks never ceases maze me why people
go to so much trouble to emulate someting when real things always better
Indeed, and now they have to get a bulky CRT somewhere and they have to put it somewhere. Highly annoying when one doesn't want to bother with CRTs anymore.
Furthermore, if you already have everything set up, then all you need is some video player with the right filters (may actually be a bit of a problem).
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Windows is not usable on a CRT because 1024x768 looks terrible AND Windows is unusable with less than that resolution.
CRTs have round pixels and scanlines, LCDs have neither of those attributes so you need at least 1280x1024 LCD to get decent scanline effect anyway.
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If I mount a CRT on the wall I will not be able to open the door to the room. :eek: Next month I am going to order this gadget. How do you hook up sound when using a VGA on a flat screen TV?
VGA has nothing to do with audio: it's just analog video input (R, G, B and horizontal and vertical sync signals).
Audio goes from your 3,5mm jack in your PC (green connector) directly to the audio input of TV/monitor, much probably on RCA input (those white and red connectors): it's just a matter of buying/building a simple cable.
BY!
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Windows is not usable on a CRT because 1024x768 looks terrible AND Windows is unusable with less than that resolution.
1024x768 looks fine on a CRT, and any resolution that's not native on an LCD will look better on a CRT. I'm not really sure what you're getting at here... I agree, you don't wanna go less than that, but my CRT here is quite happily displaying a crisp, bright, contrastful Windows desktop at 1600x1200. My CRT at home performs similarly with Windows, Linux, And AmigaOS 3.9 and 4.1 - all at 1600x1200.
CRTs have round pixels and scanlines, LCDs have neither of those attributes so you need at least 1280x1024 LCD to get decent scanline effect anyway.
Indeed, to emulate the scanlines you need a high vertical resolution - at least twice that of the image you want to display.
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Off-topic:
Windows is not usable on a CRT because 1024x768 looks terrible AND Windows is unusable with less than that resolution.
Windows XP looks fine on my 17 inch CRT and is perfectly usable at 1024x768 (which is what I use), so this is clearly subjective. Also, my CRT can display up to 1600x1200 (which is ridiculous for a 17 inch monitor).
And no, I'm not a CRT freak. CRTs offer certain functions that flat panels don't offer yet (sadly). I use mine in a dual view setup with a full HD panel, and a KVM switch so I can use the CRT for my A1200 using a VGA adapter (672x562 94 hertz interlaced).
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Off-topic:
Windows XP looks fine on my 17 inch CRT and is perfectly usable at 1024x768 (which is what I use), so this is clearly subjective. Also, my CRT can display up to 1600x1200 (which is ridiculous for a 17 inch monitor).
And no, I'm not a CRT freak. CRTs offer certain functions that flat panels don't offer yet (sadly). I use mine in a dual view setup with a full HD panel, and a KVM switch so I can use the CRT for my A1200 using a VGA adapter (672x562 94 hertz interlaced).
SD definition TVs via S-video output is probably what they meant.
The best CRT monitor in the world is SONY's 24" widescreen CRT which does greater than 1920x1200. Extremely rare and expensive, about £700 ore than 22" SONY LCD. My dream monitor though.
Also Amige PAL display relies on 4:3, PC monitors are 5:4 aspect ratio pixels. Hence HD is 1080p and PC is 1920x1200. PITA
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SD definition TVs via S-video output is probably what they meant.
Perhaps, in which case I bang my head :)
Also Amige PAL display relies on 4:3, PC monitors are 5:4 aspect ratio pixels. Hence HD is 1080p and PC is 1920x1200. PITA
Really? Perhaps that's why I get side bars (but not top and bottom) on my VGA CRT when using my A1200. As for HD, my Geforce FX 5500 does 1920x1080 properly, thank goodness (I hate flat panel scaling).
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Oops, if he's talking about any computer using an SD TV as a monitor via S-Video then yeah, it's gonna be crummy! And not limited to Windows or CRTs either!
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Someone told me about the RainMeter software. I checked it out, made a scanline bitmap picture and used that as a background drop and changed the shade to 10%. I am so freakin' happy, it creates the effect I was looking for.
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Just parse the damn file through an Adobe Aftereffects filter and have done with it.
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My iPad screen looks like a CRT after it's smudged up with finger prints.