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Title: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 03:37:42 AM: Would you like to see the TOS more strictly enforced as in the past?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 03:42:10 AM: I'd like to see -MODERATED-...

Again.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 03:43:09 AM: Yup, especially on moderators that are out of control... :D
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 03:44:08 AM: Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628156
I'd like to see -MODERATED-...

Again.

In person.

But I would like to see the insults and personal attacks come to an end.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Darrin on April 05, 2011, 03:47:26 AM: If these means banning anyone who doesn't support C=USA then no, we don't.

I think when we have certain members demanding the banning of someone and then threads appear to see if the site can do it without upsetting the regulars then we have an issue.

It is nice to see how C=USA has managed to rip this site in wto with the help of a few drones.

At least AW.net is keeping their threads to a minimum.

Still, I suppose C=USA and their minions would love to drive away the non-supporters...

Let me put this another way, if Franko goes then I go.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TjLaZer on April 05, 2011, 03:51:23 AM: -moderated-
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 03:52:57 AM: Quote from: tjlazer;628165
-moderated-

-moderated-
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 03:59:22 AM: -moderated-
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: commodorejohn on April 05, 2011, 03:59:38 AM: I dunno, would enforcing the TOS really help? Are there rules that would keep people from acting as unpaid shills for one company or another without completely inhibiting discussion of Amiga-related issues? That would keep CUSA zealots from spawning new praise threads every time Barry Altman so much as farts, and counter-zealots from making endless polls about how all CUSA discussion needs to be banned completely?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: number6 on April 05, 2011, 04:00:02 AM: Quote from: Darrin;628161
At least AW.net is keeping their threads to a minimum.

That's partially because the TOS allows AW to close threads with duplicative subject matter. It's applied to the "recent" topic list.
You could call it a compromise solution, where no one gets exactly what they want, but it works pretty well.

#6
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 04:00:44 AM: Quote from: Darrin;628161
If these means banning anyone who doesn't support C=USA then no, we don't.

I think when we have certain members demanding the banning of someone and then threads appear to see if the site can do it without upsetting the regulars then we have an issue.

It is nice to see how C=USA has managed to rip this site in wto with the help of a few drones.

At least AW.net is keeping their threads to a minimum.

Still, I suppose C=USA and their minions would love to drive away the non-supporters...

Let me put this another way, if Franko goes then I go.

I don't, in anyway, see this as a stance against anti C-USA posts.
But the personal attacks and baseless slander?
Yeah, that's gotta go.

Edit - Added C=USA comment to my signature to see if Franko really want to address every comment.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 04:18:09 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628177
Edit - Added C=USA comment to my signature to see if Franko really want to address every comment.

Nah... you need to change your sig there's nothing secret about it... :D
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 04:22:37 AM: Quote from: Franko;628190
Nah... you need to change your sig there's nothing secret about it... :D

Changed.
Hah! Active moderation at work!
Good. Now send me my warning.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 04:34:13 AM: In a thread and poll about TOS I will enforce the TOS strictly :hammer:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 04:37:04 AM: -moderated-
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 04:40:49 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628192
Changed.
Hah! Active moderation at work!
Good. Now send me my warning.

Everyone was warned in the post right below yours.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 04:45:09 AM: Quote from: redrumloa;628206
Everyone was warned in the post right below yours.

Good! My last post was enough off color that in some ways it offended me, so I'll take the censure.
If the term uterus is enough to receive Congressional censure, then the posts you pulled and those you edited certainly deserved it.

Now what about personal attacks? How can we eliminate those without cat calls of favoritism?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Argo on April 05, 2011, 04:52:34 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628207
Now what about personal attacks? How can we eliminate those without cat calls of favoritism?

Can't. Trust me.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: EDanaII on April 05, 2011, 04:53:42 AM: I hate to say this, it could get me flamed, but as someone in the "Don't Support C=USA" category, I'm ashamed of the behavior of many of those in that same category.

This has gotten sad, very very sad...
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 04:58:06 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628207
Now what about personal attacks? How can we eliminate those without cat calls of favoritism?

Therein lies the problem. In this thread it will be enforced. Overall is the reason for the poll. As Argo stated this is a no win situation for the site itself. People are getting very heated in this.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:01:20 AM: Quote from: redrumloa;628168
-MODERATED-

As the above comment is totally off topic then why haven't you moderated it yourself and given yourself a "1st informal warning" as it's clearly off topic from the topic of this thread... ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 05:06:05 AM: Quote from: Franko;628213
As the above comment is totally off topic then why haven't you moderated it yourself and given yourself a "1st informal warning" as it's clearly off topic from the topic of this thread... ;)

Doomy may have won an award as "Most Modded Ever"

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: runequester on April 05, 2011, 05:07:02 AM: 3 strikes you are out. Starting yesterday.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:08:17 AM: Quote from: Plaz;628214
Doomy may have won an award as "Most Modded Ever"

Plaz

Shame... as he seems to be quite rational for a loony over on his YouTube Channel... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Argo on April 05, 2011, 05:13:42 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628158
In person.

But I would like to see the insults and personal attacks come to an end.

That would be nice. Sadly, some people are very polarized over this CUSA issue.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 05:15:18 AM: Quote from: Franko;628216
Shame... as he seems to be quite rational for a loony over on his YouTube Channel... :)

Quoth Monty Python "You're a loony!":roflmao:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 05:17:44 AM: Quote from: Argo;628219
That would be nice. Sadly, some people are very polarized over this CUSA issue.

Polarized, but civil would suit me fine. I'm Irish, so if you offend me it eats at me almost indefinitely. That's why I usually avoid going down that path.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:17:49 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628220
Quoth Monty Python "You're a loony!":roflmao:

And you've only just noticed... ;)

Yup... I've been certified in the past and I'm pretty sure it will happen again sometime in the very near future... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 05:19:24 AM: Quote from: Franko;628216
Shame... as he seems to be quite rational for a loony over on his YouTube Channel... :)

Probably a good thing the old A.org database was lost. There's still a few as those fading posts lingering on my faded visual memory some where. Red probably remembers well enough. Then again maybe the old archives weren't lost. Wayne may have instead burned them in a funeral pyre out behind his place. And rightly so.

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 05:20:00 AM: Quote from: Franko;628222
And you've only just noticed... ;)

Yup... I've been certified in the past and I'm pretty sure it will happen again sometime in the very near future... :)

If most people in this world consider themselves sane, then that may be the only valid way to be. 'Cus someone around here's nuts.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:23:08 AM: @ Plaz

There are still some left here on the forum and having read them and the stuff he posts on YouTube and other places these days I think he's either mellowed out a wee bit or on medication to keep him calm... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:27:57 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628225
If most people in this world consider themselves sane, then that may be the only valid way to be. 'Cus someone around here's nuts.

When I was in the nut house a number of years back I met some of the most rational and free thinking people I've ever met in my life (and I don't mean the shrinks) as one shrink told me "some of the patients in here have more common sense & wisdom than some of my colleagues"... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 05:28:08 AM: Quote from: Franko;628226
@ Plaz

There are still some left here on the forum and having read them and the stuff he posts on YouTube and other places these days I think he's either mellowed out a wee bit or on medication to keep him calm... :)

The only thing that worries me is that you're actually seeking them out. ;)

What's up, looking to out doom the Doomy?

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 05:30:44 AM: I am really slow. I just figured out what this all about Franko. You've just decided you can't stand that green bar of activity to ever drop below 100%. :)

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:32:21 AM: Quote from: Plaz;628229
The only thing that worries me is that you're actually seeking them out. ;)

What's up, looking to out doom the Doomy?

Plaz

Nah... it's just that he seems to turn up under many different guises when you go hunting round the net looking for Amiga stuff, reckon he's got more time on his hands than me... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: magnetic on April 05, 2011, 05:37:07 AM: I would love to see very heavy moderation

this includes flaming, threats, thread hijacking, spamming and more. I also want to see bans.

As you can see most of the people that need heavy moderation are on this thread (myself included)

anything that will lead to that scottish -MODERATED- posting less i'm all for...

though there is an old portuguese saying "you cant close the barn doors after the horses ran away!"
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:50:38 AM: Quote from: Plaz;628230
I am really slow. I just figured out what this all about Franko. You've just decided you can't stand that green bar of activity to ever drop below 100%. :)

Plaz

Nah... it's only ever at 99% these days, Iggy post's more than me that's why he's got the little medal beside his name you only get that when you achieve a 100% posting rate... (the bugger)... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 05:54:52 AM: magnetic, you have me scratching my head a bit. You want heavier modding (which I could understand) but in getting it you'd likely get a ban for the way you're advocating for it. "Taking one for the team" in a respect?

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Darrin on April 05, 2011, 05:57:09 AM: Quote from: magnetic;628235
though there is an old portuguese saying "you can't claim a dubious penalty unless you pretend to be fouled."

We saw that one in the last World Cup.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 05:59:12 AM: Quote from: Franko;628248
Nah... it's only ever at 99% these days, Iggy post's more than me that's why he's got the little medal beside his name you only get that when you achieve a 100% posting rate... (the bugger)... :)

I've just got a faster computer than you Franko.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 06:01:56 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628255
I've just got a faster computer than you Franko.

Plus me old fingers aren't as nimble as they used to be... oh... and me last brain cells starting to run low on fuel... :(
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: magnetic on April 05, 2011, 06:07:30 AM: I would take a ban if franko got banned. I would do this for the amiga community.

Actually if you follow my post history i've never had problems with anyone except franko and retro (though now have problems with franko fanclub) so I wouldnt need ANY moderation if Franko was banned.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: magnetic on April 05, 2011, 06:11:28 AM: Darrin
Say what you will but the best player and the best coach in the world are both from Portugal (ronaldo and mourinho)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Darrin on April 05, 2011, 06:16:07 AM: Quote from: magnetic;628268
Darrin
Say what you will but the best player and the best coach in the world are both from Portugal (ronaldo and mourinho)

Pfft! It is Brendan Rodgers and Ashley Williams. Ask anyone.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 06:17:15 AM: Quote from: magnetic;628262
Actually if you follow my post history

Yes, you've clearly not been yourself lately. (And no I'm not referring to moobunny account spoofing :))

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: magnetic on April 05, 2011, 06:23:38 AM: plaz

Never had one post on moobuny.. Actually I dont read it much at all even during the 'fun' days.. I really despise the color scheme...
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 06:41:09 AM: Quote from: magnetic;628277
Never had one post on moobuny..

I posted a bit back when the thing first opened up to public posting. It went down hill immediately after that. Matter of fact it's where I first got slammed by BBRV now that I think about it.

I remember way back when it was just art display and a personal blog. I liked it much better then.

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Duce on April 05, 2011, 08:01:25 AM: Personal attacks need to come to a halt. As for the C-USA deal, no - such content should not be "banished" from A.org IF it pertains to Amiga users. Shouldn't be crammed in peoples faces by "the powers that be" or their friends, either. No one sees a tablet or commodity HW box with an Amiga wallpaper as the grand savior for the Amiga legacy, however. That being said, the whole polarized C-USA deal is a complete hot button topic that causes 99% of the conflicts lately. Some of the absolutely vehement posts from long term members that have erupted in the form of wild personal insults, well: people WILL walk away from A.org if it continues. There's a big difference between a joker taking a relatively innocent cheap shot post on someone, then you got guys DEMANDING JUSTICE AND IMMEDIATE BANS while calling others every name in the book on a personal level if people have alternate opinions to their own. (Magnetic, mainly - nothing personal, dude. Your posts make the place very unpleasant, far worse than what Franko could ever do - it's unbearable) A.org is becoming a very unpleasant place to follow. That sucks. We'll never all "just get along", but the fact that people are leaving should send a clear message that the ship is veering off course, no? I'm a SAM/OS4 user, which certainly puts me in a minority. I started to follow A.org because of the sense of community, the sense that everyone here was here to learn something, to lend a hand. There's been very, very little kinship here lately, the place is absolutely venomous and bordering on intolerable, forcing people to leave.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 08:10:26 AM: As soon as someone makes a personal attack, the post should be edited and a warning given. A second indescretion in the same thread should lead to a 24 hour cooling off period (i.e. a ban).

CUSA threads should go in the correct section ('CommodoreUSA Partners with Disney' is under the wrong forum heading, imho), and not on the front page unless directly Amiga related. That way, if people go looking fro CUSA threads, it's their own doing. Mods should attempt to remain bipartisan.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: magnetic on April 05, 2011, 08:12:21 AM: Duce

Sorry man.. I'll try to stop but maybe I should just not post anymore as I cant stand certain peoples post. So I should stop alltogether.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 08:27:02 AM: So this thread has turned into a -MODERATED- mess as well.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 08:31:08 AM: Dealing with Troublesome Users Can I block posts, emails and messages from specific users?
If there are particular members that bother you and you do not want to see their posts or receive Private Messages and Emails from them, then you can add these members to your 'Ignore List'. There are several ways to do this:
Through your User Control Panel: User CP (http://www.amiga.org/forums/usercp.php), Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List (http://www.amiga.org/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist). Then, type their name into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.
What if I see something offensive?
You will find 'Report' links in many places throughout the board. These links allow you to alert the board staff to anything which you find to be offensive, objectionable or illegal.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Belial6 on April 05, 2011, 09:47:03 AM: This whole 'banish CUSA' thing is silly. Even the idea of 'banish CUSA off the front page' is silly. If CUSA is not 'Amiga' enough, then neither it s OS4. The original Commodore didn't make it, and never made anything for the PPC. So, MorphOS is out too. The MiniMig is certainly not a 68000, and RetroReplay isn't a real Amiga. Nor is Natami. We can banish Amithalon as no different than CUSA, since it was just Linux on an x86 with emulation and some integration. And we can't forget to banish UAE. We could give AROS a pass, but only for the 68000 as that is the only version that runs on an actual Amiga.

By the time you banish everything that wasn't produced by or for the one true commodore, you have very little left.

Amiga.org is in the unfortunate situation that it has a few members who go out of their way to troll the board and insult other members. The moderators don't want to be over zealous, so those individuals get worse. It isn't hard to figure out who are doing it just to be disruptive, and who isn't. The worst offenders periodically will openly brag about how good they are at causing problems on the board.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: cicero790 on April 05, 2011, 09:49:13 AM: Moderation gives structure.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on April 05, 2011, 10:01:23 AM: Quote from: redrumloa;628153
Would you like to see the TOS more strictly enforced as in the past?

I like it fine the way it is.

Don't turn this into another AW.net, where a great deal of the discussions are about what should/shouldn't be allowed to be discussed, and by whom, with regular polls to try to ban whole subjects of discussions, etc. That's madness. There is already one "TOS.net", let's keep it that way. There is no issue here, and if it aint broken, don't try to fix it. It will only mess things up.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 10:26:08 AM: Quote from: Belial6;628327
This whole 'banish CUSA' thing is silly. Even the idea of 'banish CUSA off the front page' is silly. If CUSA is not 'Amiga' enough, then neither it s OS4. The original Commodore didn't make it, and never made anything for the PPC. So, MorphOS is out too. The MiniMig is certainly not a 68000, and RetroReplay isn't a real Amiga. Nor is Natami. We can banish Amithalon as no different than CUSA, since it was just Linux on an x86 with emulation and some integration. And we can't forget to banish UAE. We could give AROS a pass, but only for the 68000 as that is the only version that runs on an actual Amiga.

By the time you banish everything that wasn't produced by or for the one true commodore, you have very little left.

Amiga.org is in the unfortunate situation that it has a few members who go out of their way to troll the board and insult other members. The moderators don't want to be over zealous, so those individuals get worse. It isn't hard to figure out who are doing it just to be disruptive, and who isn't. The worst offenders periodically will openly brag about how good they are at causing problems on the board.

All the things you mention are derivatives of AmigaOS, so are directly Amiga related. If CUSA produce something Amiga related, we have every right to see it on these boards, and i'd expect to. If they produced an alternative AmigaOS, or an workbench like linux with UAE built in? that would have to count.

Your quite far off the beaten track though, an silk screened logo on an android tablet or C64 PC case bares no relation to something that will run Amiga software, and should not be compared to most of your examples. As an Amigan, i'm quite surprised you can't see the difference.

That doesn't mean there is not a place for these things, it's just people should judge carefully which forum to post them into, and whether or not they are Amiga newsworthy enough to hit the front page.

This is Amiga.org. Not Amiga brand name.org, or commodore.org. The machine(s) that run the OS and software are why (most) of us are here.

As for trolling on the boards,your right, CUSA threads would not be half as bad if our Mods would come down on the worst offenders a bit more often.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Amiga_Nut on April 05, 2011, 10:30:26 AM: Quote from: Argo;628219
That would be nice. Sadly, some people are very polarized over this CUSA issue.

Well then remove the problem that is fancy cased overpriced Linux based PCs as news on an AMIGA forum ;)

My PSP runs UAE....should we have announcements about PSP 2 or PSP phone on here too? :roflmao:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: bloodline on April 05, 2011, 10:33:47 AM: The TOS have never been oppressively enforced on this site, that's why we are here.

There are bunch of "New Users" who don't get that A.org is about users more than some lump of plastic and metal... We all have a common interest and that's brought us together, but we stay for the social!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 10:36:54 AM: Quote from: bloodline;628341
The TOS have never been oppressively enforced on this site, that's why we are here.

There are bunch of "New Users" who don't get that A.org is about users more than some lump of plastic and metal... We all have a common interest and that's brought us together, but we stay for the social!

Anyone in particular in mind... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 10:42:05 AM: Quote from: Amiga_Nut;628339
Well then remove the problem that is fancy cased overpriced Linux based PCs as news on an AMIGA forum ;)

My PSP runs UAE....should we have announcements about PSP 2 or PSP phone on here too? :roflmao:

no....but PSP UAE would be fine! forum/Amiga Emulation
Hell, you could have threads about the PSP in some of the coffee house forums.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: gertsy on April 05, 2011, 10:49:15 AM: I think the current level of Moderation is fine. The speed of intervention could do with a a ramp up though. I'm sick of -moderated- posting stupid -moderated- posts and then attacking other members like they are -moderated- -moderated-. If I was a moderator and I saw that kind of -moderated- -moderated- going down I would be in there and knocking some -moderated- heads off.
Just see If I don't! -moderated- -moderated- and -moderated- I'm -moderated- sick of it.

Arrh. i feel better now.

Gordon Ramsay
:)

PS: @bloodline. Here here!
PPS: We've got enough sock abusers we don't need a bunch of TOSsers as well.... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 10:50:52 AM: I have questions about the mods themselves. I think relying on Karlos and maybe Argo for all the mod duties is shortsighted. We definitely need new mods. I said this earlier today on another thread.

We should kick Wayne Hunt hard (nothing personal) as he's become sort of a burden lately being negative and all. He should know better.

Who is Silver Dragon? I think i have only seen him online maybe twice since i have been a member. Forgive me but isn't it hard to mod properly if you are never online? So tell me again why he is a mod? :confused:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 10:56:27 AM: Quote from: bloodline;628341
The TOS have never been oppressively enforced on this site, that's why we are here.

There are bunch of "New Users" who don't get that A.org is about users more than some lump of plastic and metal... We all have a common interest and that's brought us together, but we stay for the social!

What's a "New User"? :confused:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 10:58:32 AM: Quote from: Kesa;628352
What's a "New User"? :confused:

It's a bit like an "Old User" but far more intelligent and much quicker at posting... :)

(Uh Oh... Silver Dragons online, I think he might have something to say to you Kesa... :))
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 10:59:59 AM: I like this "New User"! :)

I wonder how fast i can type?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: gertsy on April 05, 2011, 11:02:03 AM: Ur freaken me out maannn! I'm gonna report you. And your inappropriate avatar..!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 11:06:10 AM: That's just typical. Just as i attack Silver Dragon for never being online he comes online.

*mumbles* Magical B**tard :madashell:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 11:13:49 AM: Wonder if this one meets the TOS... ;)

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=628358&postcount=1
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 11:20:20 AM: That was funny! :roflmao:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 11:22:15 AM: I just got a medal! Iggy you can suck on this CENSORED!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 11:25:37 AM: Quote from: Kesa;628363
I just got a medal! Iggy you can suck on this CENSORED!

You Bugger... I've been posting like a madman all night to try and get that... it's a fix, a fix I tell you... HEY MAW... Kesa's nicked Iggy's medal that I've been trying to nick all night... :cry:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 11:31:26 AM: Quote from: Franko;628364
You Bugger... I've been posting like a madman all night to try and get that... it's a fix, a fix I tell you... HEY MAW... Kesa's nicked Iggy's medal that I've been trying to nick all night... :cry:

It's because my activity bar is 100% but yours is only 99.

Notice how i deliberately did not put a % after your number therefore making me look big and you smaller.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 11:36:14 AM: Quote from: Kesa;628365
It's because my activity bar is 100% but yours is only 99.

Notice how i deliberately did not put a % after your number therefore making me look big and you smaller.

It's a fix, a conspiracy I tell you I aint even slept for the past 24 hours and my keyboards letters are all but faded away with all the ruddy drivel I've been sitting here posting since yesterday... :(

Methinks you must have been dishing out the Coke Zero to folks in high places you, you, you person you... :(
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: bloodline on April 05, 2011, 11:36:20 AM: Quote from: Franko;628343
Anyone in particular in mind... :)
Actually no, I'm just making a point that we have a lot of new members of the past couple of years and only now has the moderation of this site become an "issue"...

Really, we all have different views and opinions, and as long as we express these using civil, reasoned arguments, any debate can be fun.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 11:38:06 AM: Quote from: bloodline;628367
Actually no, I'm just making a point that we have a lot of new members of the past couple of years and only now has the moderation of this site become an "issue"...

Really, we all have different views and opinions, and as long as we express these using civil, reasoned arguments, any debate can be fun.

Try telling that to some of the -MODERATED- round here... ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: gertsy on April 05, 2011, 11:39:52 AM: I disagree......

Hmm,, I know, I know there are undiscovered tribes in the Amazon that knew I was going to post that.

I like u bloodline. Even though your bar isn't as long as Franko or Kesa's.

PS: Ohh, I just saw my bar and its even smaller...... now I feel inadequate.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: koaftder on April 05, 2011, 11:43:03 AM: I purchased a copy of XCode 4 last week and I'm really enjoying it.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 11:45:02 AM: What are these bars for anyway? and why does your title say banned? should I even be speaking to an outlaw? ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: jj on April 05, 2011, 11:59:07 AM: Wibble
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: bloodline on April 05, 2011, 12:01:42 PM: Quote from: koaftder;628372
I purchased a copy of XCode 4 last week and I'm really enjoying it.
I've found Xcode4 to be a pain in the wotsit... But only because I'm so used to xcode3... I do like Interface Builder integration... And I'm sure I will see some LLMV benefits in time :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Amiga_Nut on April 05, 2011, 01:35:07 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628346
no....but PSP UAE would be fine! forum/Amiga Emulation
Hell, you could have threads about the PSP in some of the coffee house forums.

But not in the official news announcement section then? ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: jj on April 05, 2011, 01:38:53 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628346
no....but PSP UAE would be fine! forum/Amiga Emulation
Hell, you could have threads about the PSP in some of the coffee house forums.

I think posts about hardware that can run emulation would be fine.

Especially in the alternative OS section of the site.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 01:40:05 PM: Quote from: Amiga_Nut;628404
But not in the official news announcement section then? ;)

heh, maybe not. Still, more relevent than 'hey a c64 pc case!' or 'hey a silk screened cheapo tablet!'
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: gertsy on April 05, 2011, 01:49:07 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628373
What are these bars for anyway? and why does your title say banned? should I even be speaking to an outlaw? ;)

I'm not an outlaw. I'm just a naughty boy.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: nicholas on April 05, 2011, 02:02:11 PM: Quote from: EDanaII;628210
I hate to say this, it could get me flamed, but as someone in the "Don't Support C=USA" category, I'm ashamed of the behavior of many of those in that same category.

This has gotten sad, very very sad...

Ditto.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: nicholas on April 05, 2011, 02:10:50 PM: Quote from: bloodline;628341
The TOS have never been oppressively enforced on this site, that's why we are here.

There are bunch of "New Users" who don't get that A.org is about users more than some lump of plastic and metal... We all have a common interest and that's brought us together, but we stay for the social!

As usual you are spot on Matt.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: nicholas on April 05, 2011, 02:15:25 PM: Quote from: koaftder;628372
I purchased a copy of XCode 4 last week and I'm really enjoying it.

Isn't it a free download?

http://developer.apple.com/xcode/

edit: Doh!

Quote
If you are not an iOS or Mac Developer Program member, you can purchase Xcode 4 from the Mac App Store.
I just shelled out the £2.99 for it. Perhaps I'll not hate it as much as XCode 3.2.

I bought this useful looking tool too.

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/x4shortcuts/id428271695?mt=12
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 02:43:46 PM: One more thought to add.... as CUSA rolls out it's 64 and later it's Amiga, chances are the average age of the crowd interested in visiting here is going to drop, perhaps dramatically. Though we have some younger users here now, my perception is that the majority of frequent poster are older duddies like me and the tone is set according.

A.org needs to think about how the forums play in the future. Will it stay the gruffer version where I can learn about barnacle appendages and how the apply to computer thread topics (which I though was funny actually), or will it try to smooth out the rough edges for new visitors?

At this point if my 14 year old who's interested in science and computers wanted to research Amiga info and history at Amiga.org, I'd seriously consider putting it on the restricted list based on the recent activity. Food for thought.

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 02:45:06 PM: Tags for this thread : ban franko (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=ban+franko) , enforcement (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=enforcement) , return (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=return) , strict (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=strict) , tos (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=tos)

redrumloa, you need to calm down. this is hardly moderator behavior. You modded two of my posts as personal attacks and claimed to have "warned me." Enough, man. You are acting just as bad as Franko. You need to take a break for a bit.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 02:48:55 PM: Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628441
redrumloa, you need to calm down. this is hardly moderator behavior. You modded two of my posts as personal attacks and claimed to have "warned me." Enough, man. You are acting just as bad as Franko. You need to take a break for a bit.

Oi... don't blame me cos he's toddled of the deep end... :(
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 02:55:25 PM: Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628441
Tags for this thread : ban franko (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=ban+franko) , enforcement (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=enforcement) , return (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=return) , strict (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=strict) , tos (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=tos)

redrumloa, you need to calm down. this is hardly moderator behavior. You modded two of my posts as personal attacks and claimed to have "warned me." Enough, man. You are acting just as bad as Franko. You need to take a break for a bit.

I added no tags.

I warned early in the thread the TOS would be enforced yet you broke the TOS. If you feel I overstepped, please file a complaint with Transition/Pyromania.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 03:03:33 PM: Quote from: Franko;628445
Oi... don't blame me cos he's toddled of the deep end... :(

Well, the big difference between you going off on rants and tangents is that you don't have the power to moderate other users posts.

When a mod starts slinging mud and tagging his posts with personal attacks while moderating others "personal attacks", its time for that mod to take a break.

At this point I could give two fecal matters if CUSA stays or goes, red vs blue, or any of the other stupidity that passes for rants on this sites. I originally came here like a lot of us "newcomers" did - because we feel a personal connection to a (now defunct) brand of silicon. I voted moobunny on this poll because this poll honestly has nothing to do with its stated purpose.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 03:04:19 PM: Quote from: redrumloa;628449
I added no tags.

I warned early in the thread the TOS would be enforced yet you broke the TOS. If you feel I overstepped, please file a complaint with Transition/Pyromania.

Please provide a link to the TOS, as I can't seem to find one on the main page.

EDIT: although it seems you did remove a tag.

EDIT x2: I wear big undies. I have never had a beef with you until now. I do feel you have overstepped, or at the very best are trying to prove some point that has nothing to do with enforcement of the TOS. I am suggesting as one person to another that you chill out, remember you were given the mod power for your trustworthiness, not to use against people you think are attacking you personally. Especially when they aren't.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 03:06:21 PM: Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628451
Please provide a link to the TOS, as I can't seem to find one on the main page.

EDIT: although it seems you did remove a tag.

HERE (http://www.amiga.org/index.php?pageid=posting_guidelines)

I did nothing such, you are grasping at straws.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 03:37:14 PM: Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628441
Tags for this thread : ban franko (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=ban+franko)

People who think it's funny to add stupid tags to threads should stop to consider that although it's not displayed to users at large, all moderators can very easily who added them.

That tag was not added by any of the moderators. The guy who added it knows who he is. And so do I, now...
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: jj on April 05, 2011, 03:39:48 PM: Was it me ?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 03:43:47 PM: Quote from: Karlos;628461
People who think it's funny to add stupid tags to threads should stop to consider that although it's not displayed to users at large, all moderators can very easily who added them.

That tag was not added by any of the moderators. The guy who added it knows who he is. And so do I, now...

My apologies, then, redrumloa, for thinking it was you who added that tag.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 03:45:17 PM: Tags: dick-waving-contest (http://www.amiga.org/forums/tags.php?tag=dick-waving-contest)

I have a picture for that....

Have I ever told you about the barnacle?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 03:49:10 PM: Quote from: Franko;628445
Oi... don't blame me cos he's toddled of the deep end... :(

I will.

Despite my asking nicely, more than once to desist, you went out of your way to goad him, implying he's been "bought off" by CUSA etc. All based on the evidence of various emails you claimed to have received but, I might add, failed to produce any evidence of and then acted as if he was in the wrong for reacting negatively to this criticism.

If you think I'm sticking up for him because he's an oldboy pal, you're wrong. If you think I'm defending him because he's been here a long time, you're wrong. If you're thinking he cried for help, you're wrong.

If you think I'm peeved because someone old enough to know better behaved like a complete tool for half the evening, then you are getting warm.

I thought we were all a bit more grown up than that. Imagine my disappointment.

:bitch:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 03:50:35 PM: Quote from: JJ;628462
Was it me ?

Not according to the log.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 04:02:37 PM: Quote from: Karlos;628470
I will.

Despite my asking nicely, more than once to desist, you went out of your way to goad him, implying he's been "bought off" by CUSA etc. All based on the evidence of various emails you claimed to have received but, I might add, failed to produce any evidence of and then acted as if he was in the wrong for reacting negatively to this criticism.

If you think I'm sticking up for him because he's an oldboy pal, you're wrong. If you think I'm defending him because he's been here a long time, you're wrong. If you're thinking he cried for help, you're wrong.

If you think I'm peeved because someone old enough to know better behaved like a complete tool for half the evening, then you are getting warm.

I thought we were all a bit more grown up than that. Imagine my disappointment.

:bitch:

I think you should change that to he went out of his way to goad me, as that would be more correct.

I may have behaved like a "Tool" as you say but so did he, so why aint you saying that he behaved like a "Tool" too, don't need to answer that one cos I already know what the truth is.

As for the emails when the time is right or needed then I will reveal them, whether it's someone just trying to stir things up between me and Red who's sending them I honestly don't know but if I do decide to show you them then you can judge for yourself.

If your disappointed then that's not my problem or concern as such disappointment doesn't really matter to me.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: runequester on April 05, 2011, 04:27:59 PM: So my question is.. at the moment,what separates amiga.org from moobunny?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 04:35:50 PM: Quote from: runequester;628484
So my question is.. at the moment,what separates amiga.org from moobunny?

And I'm feeling my previous post was completely skipped.

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Hattig on April 05, 2011, 04:38:20 PM: Hmm, I don't think that TOS is what should be enforced on an Amiga site... an Atari ST site sure! What cruel and unusual ideas do you have in mind?

As core the CUSA stuff, I'm sick of the 'kill them' 'they should die', etc, threads. At least they're doing something with the name, and in addition they're doing something beyond just labelling standard hardware, they're making products styled around old C= designs.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: jj on April 05, 2011, 04:38:31 PM: So whats the difference between thios site and moombunny :) :) :)

Seriously though they are not even similar. This is site is generalyl moderated to a correct level. No anon posting .

Its a masasive over reaction to compare this site to moombunny.

But do we really want to get so moderated so hard that everyone leaves like a certain other Amiga site I could mention
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 04:50:08 PM: Quote from: Plaz;628440
One more thought to add.... as CUSA rolls out it's 64 and later it's Amiga, chances are the average age of the crowd interested in visiting here is going to drop, perhaps dramatically. Though we have some younger users here now, my perception is that the majority of frequent poster are older duddies like me and the tone is set according.

A.org needs to think about how the forums play in the future. Will it stay the gruffer version where I can learn about barnacle appendages and how the apply to computer thread topics (which I though was funny actually), or will it try to smooth out the rough edges for new visitors?

At this point if my 14 year old who's interested in science and computers wanted to research Amiga info and history at Amiga.org, I'd seriously consider putting it on the restricted list based on the recent activity. Food for thought.

Plaz

I'll play :)

I doubt many youngsters are that interested in owning a breadbinPC, or a new Amiga. New Amigans come through the main Amiga sites first, as a general rule. Lemon Amiga might be a less controvertial forum to start in for a beginner.

If I were researching the Amiga i'd probably start at the Amiga info sites like http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/, wikipedia, or http://amiga.resource.cx/
I don't know if this forum should be child friendly, i'd probably say not.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 04:52:32 PM: Quote from: Plaz;628440
One more thought to add.... as CUSA rolls out it's 64 and later it's Amiga, chances are the average age of the crowd interested in visiting here is going to drop, perhaps dramatically. Though we have some younger users here now, my perception is that the majority of frequent poster are older duddies like me and the tone is set according.

A.org needs to think about how the forums play in the future. Will it stay the gruffer version where I can learn about barnacle appendages and how the apply to computer thread topics (which I though was funny actually), or will it try to smooth out the rough edges for new visitors?

At this point if my 14 year old who's interested in science and computers wanted to research Amiga info and history at Amiga.org, I'd seriously consider putting it on the restricted list based on the recent activity. Food for thought.

Plaz

What about if your 14 year old was studying sociology and/or psychology? :lol:

But seriously, you bring up good points, although for the life of me I can't see anyone coming to this site via CUSA that isn't already an old fuddy-duddy. The truth is that these pedantic arguments we have over "teh real Amiguh" only matter to us old enough to actually remember what a real amiga is.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 04:58:44 PM: Quote from: JJ;628493
So whats the difference between thios site and moombunny :) :) :)

Seriously though they are not even similar. This is site is generalyl moderated to a correct level. No anon posting .

Its a masasive over reaction to compare this site to moombunny.

But do we really want to get so moderated so hard that everyone leaves like a certain other Amiga site I could mention

I would say we're more like regretsy than moobunny.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 05:02:29 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628496
I don't know if this forum should be child friendly, i'd probably say not.

As an old timer like me you know Wayne always been intended to be family friendly. Whether it should or not is not my call but would be the current owner's call. I guess some of the newer members and "new to the interweb" members don't know this and do not appreciate the heritage. Some seem downright shocked a TOS exists and anyone would want to enforce it.

Right now the poll shows about 3/4 favoring stepped up moderation and almost 1/2 want strict enforcement of the TOS. Strangely only 3 people think polls are stupid:lol:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 05:07:59 PM: Quote from: redrumloa;628503
As an old timer like me you know Wayne always been intended to be family friendly. Whether it should or not is not my call but would be the current owner's call. I guess some of the newer members and "new to the interweb" members don't know this and do not appreciate the heritage. Some seem downright shocked a TOS exists and anyone would want to enforce it.

Right now the poll shows about 3/4 favoring stepped up moderation and almost 1/2 want strict enforcement of the TOS. Strangely only 3 people think polls are stupid:lol:

When I said 'not child friendly' I meant adult conversations.
The opposite of people coming on here to behave like children.
I don't really care what Wayne thinks any more, his lasts set of posts had him acting just like the people who need moderating.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: save2600 on April 05, 2011, 05:10:42 PM: One area of A.org where moderation (or lack of) has had an adverse effect is the Marketplace. Trading, buying, selling or dealing in any way, is a total joke here now. Has been for at least the last couple of years. How about this for example.... say you want to sell something. The original poster should have the ability to "lock" their thread and direct all inquiries straight to their mailbox. The seller then could qualify and deal privately. They could then update their sale or wanted thread as applicable and appropriate. Sale threads shouldn't be long-assed MySpace looking vertical nightmares that take up several pages where idiots post silly questions such as "how much to ship to Italy" and then several posts later respond publicly with "interest withdrawn due to shipping". :mad:

That's just one example where self-voluntary moderation might come in handy. But just think if the original poster was allowed to lock their thread in another forum. They would then be free to post news about 'whatever' without fear of immature reprisal and opinions that just junk up a thread and ultimately, leads to school-yard fighting. If someone is dumb enough to post a flame toward someone or something and then locks the thread, great! Those of us who'd rather dwell on the business at hand, ie: buying/selling/trading/talking about computing, won't have an opportunity to feed the trolls. Combatting nonsense with nonsense isn't being "social". It's counterproductive is all it is.

This is how self-moderation works on some of the most popular social sites in the world. Facebook for example. Don't like what someone has to say? Well, if you're the original poster, you have the ability to simply delete their comment. If you find a comment is irrelevant, delete it. If it's a personal attack - goodbye! If it's a qualified comment and you want to address it in a mature manner and feel the other person can debate in a similar fashion - there you go then! You've now created your own environment where you would feel free to express yourself, all the while ignoring all the dolts around you. Isn't that what we do in real life? Actually, real life face to face, "moderation" is done much more swiftly. Sometimes with violence. Sometimes through legal means or through some other form of punishment or reprimand.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 05:13:20 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628504
I don't really care what Wayne thinks any more, his lasts set of posts had him acting just like the people who need moderating.

You do realise that Wayne is no longer in charge, right? If he's become a bit more "free" with his opinion, that's to be expected: since selling up, he doesn't have to try and please everybody anymore.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 05:18:36 PM: Quote from: Karlos;628506
You do realise that Wayne is no longer in charge, right? If he's become a bit more "free" with his opinion, that's to be expected: since selling up, he doesn't have to try and please everybody anymore.

Sure I know it, I watched Jens flounce off when no one would tell him who the new owner was :)

I just found Reds comment amusing: wayne wanted a family friendly site, and some of the newer members don't get it...and Wayne's one of the guys spouting! You couldn't make it up ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:24:45 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628508
Sure I know it, I watched Jens flounce off when no one would tell him who the new owner was :)

I just found Reds comment amusing: wayne wanted a family friendly site, and some of the newer members don't get it...and Wayne's one of the guys spouting! You couldn't make it up ;)

I was about to say the exact same thing myself but of course Karlos would jump on it if I did... ;)

Family friendly... aye right... with Wayne putting as many swear words he can in each of his posts... :roflmao:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 05:29:28 PM: Anyway, i'm all for a bit more moderating. It won't need to be hands on forever, once everyone get's 'smacked with the hairy side' a few times, they will know what's allowable and what isn't...which means you'll have a sore arse franko :)

So we can be adult, but not specifically child friendly, which should be good enough.

@save2600
"This is how self-moderation works on some of the most popular social sites in the world. Facebook for example. Don't like what someone has to say? Well, if you're the original poster, you have the ability to simply delete their comment. If you find a comment is irrelevant"

Don't fancy that at all. I don't like the idea of censorship, or private deals for selling goods. A few good mods should be all that we need. I'd hate threads to become someones private playground. You could use the blog function for that.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 05:31:08 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628508
I just found Reds comment amusing: wayne wanted a family friendly site, and some of the newer members don't get it...and Wayne's one of the guys spouting! You couldn't make it up ;)

You misunderstood my point completely. Oh well...
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 05:32:16 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628511
Anyway, i'm all for a bit more moderating. It won't need to be hands on forever, once everyone get's 'smacked with the hairy side' a few times, they will know what's allowable and what isn't...which means you'll have a sore arse franko :)

So we can be adult, but not specifically child friendly, which should be good enough.

I've already got one sitting here for hours on end watching this whole wee drama unfold... ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 05:33:36 PM: Striving for family friendly might be overkill, but I'd prefer to send the little buggers away without their eyes and ears burning.

Plaz
Can't spell my own name today
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 05:35:40 PM: Quote from: redrumloa;628513
You misunderstood my point completely. Oh well...

I'm an artist, I don't need brains. You'll have to explain a bit better ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Plaz on April 05, 2011, 05:41:40 PM: Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628498
What about if your 14 year old was studying sociology and/or psychology? :lol:

Classroom study, sure fine. Calling your teacher, fellow student by some of those names/terms... mmm, not so much. :biglaugh:

Plaz
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: runequester on April 05, 2011, 05:52:30 PM: Heres the thing: theres obviously an area between "fascist storm trooper mods" and "every thread is schoolyard fight time"

things arent binary.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Digiman on April 05, 2011, 06:33:17 PM: Children are a burden on society, so -moderated- them.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Boudicca on April 05, 2011, 07:02:35 PM: -moderated- -moderated- -moderated- -moderated-, so there!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: x56h34 on April 05, 2011, 07:28:42 PM: I am against enforcing the TOS strictly around here. What's the matter with you people!? This is an Amiga forum and we should not really care about the Atari TOS. :P
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 05, 2011, 07:32:51 PM: Quote from: x56h34;628552
I am against enforcing the TOS strictly around here. What's the matter with you people!? This is an Amiga forum and we should not really care about the Atari TOS. :P

I'll have you know that stands for Tramiel Operating System!

/me waits to be moderated for being OT.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: save2600 on April 05, 2011, 07:45:33 PM: Quote from: x56h34;628552
I am against enforcing the TOS strictly around here. What's the matter with you people!? This is an Amiga forum and we should not really care about the Atari TOS. :P

Quote from: redrumloa;628553
I'll have you know that stands for Tramiel Operating System!

/me waits to be moderated for being OT.

To toss TOS in ROM or not. That is the question that preoccupies the schoolyard as of late. :lol:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 07:52:30 PM: What a bunch of - moderated - namby-pamby - moderated - donkey scaring - moderated - - moderated - shyster - moderated - - moderated - good for nothing - moderated - - moderated - - moderated - - moderated -!

Wait, wut?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: outlawal2 on April 05, 2011, 07:55:37 PM: Quote from: Khephren;628373
What are these bars for anyway? and why does your title say banned? should I even be speaking to an outlaw? ;)

Hey!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: cecilia on April 05, 2011, 08:11:20 PM: Quote from: Karlos;628461
People who think it's funny to add stupid tags to threads should stop to consider that although it's not displayed to users at large, all moderators can very easily who added them.

That tag was not added by any of the moderators. The guy who added it knows who he is. And so do I, now...

oh, darn! I wanted to add tags about socks! :roflmao:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: koaftder on April 05, 2011, 08:15:33 PM: I added the tag "ban franko" because he's essentially the core reason why this subject is even has to be discussed. I don't think it's funny in the slightest.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Nostalgiac on April 05, 2011, 08:15:37 PM: bleeeeeeep...... BLEEEEP.... guys/mods ... please....

Amiga/Amigo... (girl)friend.....

stop this insanity - get along... shake hands... move on.

Who cares if its 68k/ppc/intel/arm or whatever..... free/commercial .... seriously :(

instead of this silly fight/accusations/whatever... its a HOBBY - ENJOY IT.

Tom UK
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 08:22:32 PM: Quote from: cecilia;628570
oh, darn! I wanted to add tags about socks! :roflmao:

I may overlook that... Especially if there are gratuitous sock references to be had in said threads ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: cecilia on April 05, 2011, 08:23:46 PM: The only time moderation is really required is if someone says something slanderous or threatening to another member.

The proper action is that the slandered member (or someone who know it's slander) should hit the Report button...and say nothing in the thread until a moderator handles the situation.

If the insulted person wishes to calmly explain the situation as best he understands it so the rest of us see what happened that's fine but basically, can we all just Get Along like grownups?

and if you don't care for some people the Ignore Feature is your friend. Not here, but i have used it myself on other places. It's a good thing
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: cecilia on April 05, 2011, 08:25:40 PM: Quote from: karlos;628575
i may overlook that... Especially if there are gratuitous sock references to be had in said threads ;)
done!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: broken on April 05, 2011, 08:28:03 PM: I liked it better when this site actually talked about the Amiga.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Boudicca on April 05, 2011, 08:47:10 PM: Quote from: broken;628579
I liked it better when this site actually talked about the Amiga.

Shut the mother %rt45rtrtrt up. Now see what you've done. You said the Kill word. Right lads tea break over, back on your heads ;O)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: broken on April 05, 2011, 08:49:41 PM: Quote from: Boudicca;628589
Shut the mother %rt45rtrtrt up. Now see what you've done. You said the Kill word. Right lads tea break over, back on your heads ;O)

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Boudicca on April 05, 2011, 09:07:05 PM: Quote from: broken;628590
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

That's two of us, when you find out, could you msg me, as Im desperate to know the answer !
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: motrucker on April 05, 2011, 09:10:01 PM: Oh damn. I don't sign on for a day and the shit really hits fan. This might well be the straw that drives me away.
The other stupid posts were easy to avoid - this carp isn't.
Man, a couple of -MODERATED- have ruin the site.
I guess that's considered a "personal attack" though, so I'll get "moderated".
I may as well say tootles right now. I see it coming.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: bloodline on April 05, 2011, 09:24:06 PM: I've figured it out!

This is all an AmigaWorld.net conspiracy to drive more users away from A.org!!!!

Get this aw.net guys, you didn't beat us then and you won't beat us now!!!

The answer is in the source! :rtfm:

Lol... I'm just teasing but it does feel like 2003 all over again... The Aw.net guys must be laughing at the state of A.org right right now:roflmao:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 09:24:08 PM: Quote from: redrumloa;628553
I'll have you know that stands for Tramiel Operating System!

/me waits to be moderated for being OT.

You could always turn yourself in, like in "A Scanner Darkly" :lol:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 09:50:52 PM: Hmm lets see... yup I was right, log off wait a few minutes then Red issues me with two infractions, soooo predictable.... :roflmao:

Infraction number 1 = Insulted other members

Infraction number 2 = Insulted other members

Moi... insult someone... never... you aint seen nuthin yet if you think those were insults... ;)

Going to log off again now and wait for the ban... gawd this is pathetic... :rolleyes:

PS: For those of you who have never seen one of these message that you get (and most likely never will) I thought I'd share it with you... :)

You have received an infraction at Amiga.org
Dear Franko,

You have received an infraction at Amiga.org.

Reason: Insulted Other Member(s)
-------
Complete disregard for TOS
-------

This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=628598
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by argo
@everyone, let's keep it civil!
-moderated-
All the best,
Amiga.org

Love how he wishes you all the best at the end, nice touch that... :roflmao:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: number6 on April 05, 2011, 10:00:58 PM: Quote from: bloodline;628611
I've figured it out!

This is all an AmigaWorld.net conspiracy to drive more users away from A.org!!!!

Get this aw.net guys, you didn't beat us then and you won't beat us now!!!

The answer is in the source! :rtfm:

Lol... I'm just teasing but it does feel like 2003 all over again... The Aw.net guys must be laughing at the state of A.org right right now:roflmao:

Nah. I know the current staff and they are "sympathetic" to what is transpiring here on a.org.
The same topics are being discussed, but seemingly with a bit more decorum.
It flows like the tide at times though, I'll grant you that.

#6
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Darrin on April 05, 2011, 10:10:05 PM: Yep, it is definately looking like elementers here are trying to remove any "non-USA Fan Boys".

Here's the logo in waiting for for the site:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/corg.jpg)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 10:14:02 PM: Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628612
You could always turn yourself in, like in "A Scanner Darkly" :lol:

First you have to spy on yourself, gather data, rat yourself out, then turn yourself in.

Phillip Dick rules!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: actung_bab on April 05, 2011, 10:15:58 PM: Quote from: Franko;628222
And you've only just noticed... ;)

Yup... I've been certified in the past and I'm pretty sure it will happen again sometime in the very near future... :)

franko your got ceriticate am jealous l never got one in my life
the best i got was c ,was my best grade d + someting to show mum
Dude even moderated my humour damm thought that post was funny
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: actung_bab on April 05, 2011, 10:21:41 PM: Quote from: Franko;628618
Hmm lets see... yup I was right, log off wait a few minutes then Red issues me with two infractions, soooo predictable.... :roflmao:

Infraction number 1 = Insulted other members

Infraction number 2 = Insulted other members

Moi... insult someone... never... you aint seen nuthin yet if you think those were insults... ;)

Going to log off again now and wait for the ban... gawd this is pathetic... :rolleyes:

Love how he wishes you all the best at the end, nice touch that... :roflmao:

Dude where back in school admit you always in trouble u bad boy you its the cane for u

Please restrict your language to non sexually terms no swearing ie term "members" chould be mis understood

And in future all amiga org club "people" ,remmber we dont think of club people as have gentalia or boobs bums or fannys

opps l just broken my own rules i here by ban myself for 2 weeks and ten lashs if the cane

remmebr amiga club house "people " are special needs we must be where so good
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 10:22:18 PM: Quote from: bloodline;628611
The Aw.net guys must be laughing at the state of A.org right right now

Ironically, a cursory glance at the site seems to suggest they're all taking it a lot more calmly than people here (I qualify this with the note that I haven't read all the threads there). I see CUSA threads there too, so it isn't as if there's some iron fist moderation policy going on and they're in some sheltered bubble of innocence regarding the announcements.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: actung_bab on April 05, 2011, 10:24:12 PM: Quote from: Iggy;628630
First you have to spy on yourself, gather data, rat yourself out, then turn yourself in.

Phillip Dick rules!
its going be busy week l "feel" opps know used the term feel in totaly platonic way there
can u rat me out then l return the favour .. oh crap l meant favour not in sexualll way.. aghhhh somone shoot me noo.. tension please rocket launcher is bit overboard dude
oh lordy this too "hard :| oh shit i done it again s%%$ feck oh i going all faint
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Zerohero on April 05, 2011, 10:40:34 PM: Quote from: bloodline;628611
I've figured it out!

This is all an AmigaWorld.net conspiracy to drive more users away from A.org!!!!

Get this aw.net guys, you didn't beat us then and you won't beat us now!!!

Bah, you found out. Need a more subtle plan next time...

...and no, I am not laughing, not at all, I wish we could act like grown ups about this :/
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Zerohero on April 05, 2011, 10:42:40 PM: Quote from: Karlos;628642
Ironically, a cursory glance at the site seems to suggest they're all taking it a lot more calmly than people here.

I'm as surprised as you are?! No idea why it is so calm, to be honest. I'm glad it is though ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Digiman on April 05, 2011, 10:43:09 PM: Quote from: broken;628579
I liked it better when this site actually talked about the Amiga.

Amen brother.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: save2600 on April 05, 2011, 10:51:13 PM: Moderated myself. I'm awful. Just plain awful. :lol:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Lando on April 05, 2011, 10:52:25 PM: No. I prefer freedom of expression. I wouldn't want to be part of a site where I'm not allowed to express my honest opinion in case it may offend someone or make them angry because they don't agree with me. That's why I never joined aw.net back in the day. Banning and censorship killed other sites. Just look at ann after the forced registrations.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Digiman on April 05, 2011, 11:47:18 PM: Quote from: save2600;628665
Moderated myself. I'm awful. Just plain awful. :lol:

Awful at moderating yourself? I know I am :lol:

(there's always Atariage to go dig up the A8 vs C64 thread AGAIN for 2011 if we get banned :madashell: )
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: smerf on April 06, 2011, 02:30:21 AM: Hi,

@Darrin,

I have one question?

What is a wto?

smerf
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 03:53:01 AM: Quote from: smerf;628773
Hi,

@Darrin,

I have one question?

What is a wto?

smerf

World Trade Organization???
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: klx300r on April 06, 2011, 04:00:23 AM: YES please
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: EDanaII on April 06, 2011, 04:16:14 AM: Quote from: save2600;628665
Moderated myself. I'm awful. Just plain awful. :lol:

I'd moderate myself, but then I'd get accused of prejudice...
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: adz on April 06, 2011, 04:33:29 AM: I moderate myself by not slinging shit in the first place, pretty simple solution if you ask me :idea:
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 05:57:40 AM: Quote from: adz;628828
I moderate myself by not slinging shit in the first place, pretty simple solution if you ask me :idea:

J'accuse! You used rough language.

Keep that shit to yourself.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: adz on April 06, 2011, 06:22:42 AM: Quote from: Iggy;628878
J'accuse! You used rough language.

Keep that shit to yourself.

Blow it out your corn chute Frenchie :lol:

Speaking of Frenchies, what happened to Mad?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: motrucker on April 06, 2011, 01:59:22 PM: Quote from: redrumloa;628553
I'll have you know that stands for Tramiel Operating System!

This might well be the only thing you and I will agree on now.
You will never have a chance to "MODERATE" me again. Since it seems that any thing we say will be considered a "personal attack", and nobody is talking Amiga anymore - I guess I'm gone.
You might have very empty room to MODERATE soon.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: fishy_fiz on April 06, 2011, 02:13:03 PM: The way I see it people arent perfect, sometimes theyre moody, sometimes life throws them a bad day, sometimes they just gout out of bed on the wrong side, but its how a person moves on (or not) that decides whether theyre a "public" nuisance or not. The terms of conditions are quite reasonable here and I really dont understand why people keep bringing up the whole "freedom of speech" thing. There's never been a time my thoughts have been moderated, even if Ive passinoately disagreed with someone else. The only time I can see it being a problem is if someone is being unreasonable/trouble making/etc. that moderation ever comes into things. Even in the real world freedom of speech only allows you reasonable leeway. A person would be evicted from a pub (random example) for carrying on to the level that might see a person moderated.

Yes there's been a more than average amount of arguing and whatnot here lately, but in humble opinion it'd fade away if people just let it go.

As for my vote, I havent yet, but Im leaning towards the 2nd and 3rd options. Leave things more or less the way they are, but maybe be a little quicker to give a friendly nudge on the shoulder if a person is starting to behave like a clown.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: tone007 on April 06, 2011, 02:26:49 PM: Quote from: motrucker;629018
This might well be the only thing you and I will agree on now.
You will never have a chance to "MODERATE" me again. Since it seems that any thing we say will be considered a "personal attack", and nobody is talking Amiga anymore - I guess I'm gone.
You might have very empty room to MODERATE soon.

But red isn't a moderator anymore, he won't be doing any moderating anyway!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Piru on April 06, 2011, 03:13:23 PM: (http://sintonen.fi/pics/aorg-situation.gif)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 03:17:41 PM: Quote from: Piru;629059
(http://sintonen.fi/pics/aorg-situation.gif)

Hmm... strange one this... now let me think...

the number 4 in a cup... Hmmm...

A cup with the number 4 in it... Hmmm...

Nope... rubbish... don't get it... ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: modrobert on April 06, 2011, 03:30:36 PM: We don't need any moderation at all in my opinion, unless direct personal threats or mindless spam.

If amiga.org choose to accept this simple path you are welcome to use this logo.

(http://www.eurasia.nu/images/berzerk_logo.gif)

Freedom of speech is a basic right that should be honored and cherished, not sadly crippled by moderators. From experience people tend to behave well when allowed to type pretty much anything they want, it works because people are generally good once given a chance to prove it.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Thorham on April 06, 2011, 04:24:48 PM: YES! All this profanity sucks :( Most people don't like to read that trash talking rubbish, and people who do should find a nice trash talking forum.

Freedom of speech doesn't have to apply to privately owned forums. Same goes for homes: Sure, you have freedom of speech, but don't expect me to allow you to say everything you want in my home.

This is NOT the streets.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: modrobert on April 06, 2011, 04:58:39 PM: Quote from: Thorham;629091
YES! All this profanity sucks :( Most people don't like to read that trash talking rubbish, and people who do should find a nice trash talking forum.

Freedom of speech doesn't have to apply to privately owned forums. Same goes for homes: Sure, you have freedom of speech, but don't expect me to allow you to say everything you want in my home.

This is NOT the streets.

This is a public website where you don't need to register to read posts, even more public than the streets in a way.

I think people tend to become rascals (or juvenile) when you police/moderate them, on the other hand, if they are responsible for what they post without getting banned or have their posts edited they are on their own, and there's no moderator around to save them when arguments don't hold water.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: runequester on April 06, 2011, 05:13:18 PM: Quote from: modrobert;629097
This is a public website where you don't need to register to read posts, even more public than the streets in a way.

I think people tend to become rascals (or juvenile) when you police/moderate them, on the other hand, if they are responsible for what they post without getting banned or have their posts edited they are on their own, and there's no moderator around to save them when arguments don't hold water.

I'd point you to moobunny to evaluate that theory ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Thorham on April 06, 2011, 05:24:10 PM: Quote from: runequester;629101
I'd point you to moobunny to evaluate that theory ;)
Just checked it, and that's certainly not what Amiga.org needs.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Retrofan on April 06, 2011, 05:26:22 PM: Since a time ago I'm more time in EAB. Yesterday I was asking here what was happening. Today I did in EAB. The thread was closed as two others about Cusa and A-Org. Perhaps it's too much, but perhaps it's necessary to have some order.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 05:28:17 PM: Quote from: Thorham;629107
Just checked it, and that's certainly not what Amiga.org needs.

I wouldn't worry Thorham all this CUSA stuff will end soon enough and the site will get back to being a place for great advice and fun once again... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: modrobert on April 06, 2011, 06:12:39 PM: Quote from: runequester;629101
I'd point you to moobunny to evaluate that theory ;)

I can point you to my site (http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?name=Forums&file=index), where 271340 registered users get along just fine (most of the time).
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: tone007 on April 06, 2011, 06:18:42 PM: Quote from: modrobert;629139
I can point you to my site (http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?name=Forums&file=index), where 271340 registered users get along just fine (most of the time).

Open up an Amiga section and see how long that lasts! ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: modrobert on April 06, 2011, 06:26:59 PM: Quote from: tone007;629142
Open up an Amiga section and see how long that lasts! ;)

Hehe. Seriously though, I don't see how it can end without moderation? If people can have it out without interference, the storms settle pretty quick.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 06:38:20 PM: Quote from: Franko;629110
I wouldn't worry Thorham all this CUSA stuff will end soon enough and the site will get back to being a place for great advice and fun once again... :)

Why would it do that?
Something tells me this has just gotten started and is only going to get worse once C=USA releases an Amiga.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 06:49:05 PM: Quote from: motrucker;629018
This might well be the only thing you and I will agree on now.
You will never have a chance to "MODERATE" me again. Since it seems that any thing we say will be considered a "personal attack", and nobody is talking Amiga anymore - I guess I'm gone.
You might have very empty room to MODERATE soon.

No worries, I no longer am a moderator. Chances are Amiga.org will slip closer to Moobunny by the day.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 06:50:31 PM: Quote from: tone007;629142
Open up an Amiga section and see how long that lasts! ;)

:eek: Dunno if you've ever seen "The Sweeney" tone but that avatar of you is very "Sweeney" like... :eek:

It's a fair cop guv... honest I didn't squeal... Guvnor, can I break his legs just a little bit... you're nicked sonny...
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 06:52:09 PM: Quote from: modrobert;629139
I can point you to my site (http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?name=Forums&file=index), where 271340 registered users get along just fine (most of the time).

One problem, that is not an "Amiga" community site.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: tone007 on April 06, 2011, 06:59:37 PM: Quote from: Franko;629175
:eek: Dunno if you've ever seen "The Sweeney" tone but that avatar of you is very "Sweeney" like... :eek:

Only Sweeney I've seen is Sweeney Todd.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: modrobert on April 06, 2011, 07:01:08 PM: Quote from: redrumloa;629176
One problem, that is not an "Amiga" community site.

No, just a bunch of hackers and copyright violators. In other words, nice people.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 07:01:16 PM: Sweeney Tone!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 07:33:26 PM: Quote from: tone007;629180
Only Sweeney I've seen is Sweeney Todd.

Nah... "The Sweeney" (Sweeney Todd = Flying Squad) was an old 70s British cop show famous for it's f'ing and blinding and cops knocking seven bells out the baddies... :)

Best of it was parents let their kids watch it cos we all used to play at being "The Sweeney" at school the next day and were for ever getting into trouble for swearing and knocking the crap out of each other (course in them days there was no such thing as PC (Politically Correct) come to think of it there were no such things as PC (as in computer) either... ahh, happy days... :)

[youtube]XYPSH4Q40y4[/youtube]

[youtube]j8GYtknBr2E&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: itix on April 06, 2011, 07:41:50 PM: Amiga.org looks good for me.
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 07:48:06 PM: Quote from: itix;629201
Amiga.org watches for you.

Huh?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Piru on April 06, 2011, 08:03:26 PM: Quote from: Piru;629059
(http://sintonen.fi/pics/aorg-situation.gif)

Come on... Someone must've gotten this by now surely?
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 08:06:20 PM: Ok I got it the first time but thought I'd take the pee

It's for mugs... ;)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: jorkany on April 06, 2011, 08:10:38 PM: Quote from: Franko;629217
Ok I got it the first time but thought I'd take the pee

It's for mugs... ;)

These four mugs?

(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/4306/medium/1_fourmugs.jpg)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 08:11:26 PM: Quote from: Piru;629215
Come on... Someone must've gotten this by now surely?

Well duh!
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 08:13:39 PM: Quote from: jorkany;629219
These four mugs?

(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/4306/medium/1_fourmugs.jpg)

Them's not mug's that's the posh best China auntie brings out when visitors arrive... :)
Title: Re: Return to a more strict TOS enforcement?
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 08:29:16 PM: Course these are me favourite 4 Mugs... :)

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Misc/FourMugs.jpg)