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Title: Image ratings
Post by: motorollin on May 09, 2007, 06:46:32 PM
I want to know who the bloody hell is giving every photo an arbitrary rating of 1. It pulls down the average and makes the rating meaningless. It's really annoying  :-x

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moto
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: Amigaz on May 09, 2007, 07:06:17 PM
there's a gremlin in the image gallery  :-o
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: motorollin on May 09, 2007, 07:08:00 PM
I wonder whether mods can see who placed each rating?

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moto
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: odin on May 09, 2007, 07:40:10 PM
Does the rating do anything, f.ex. how often it's shown?
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: motorollin on May 10, 2007, 04:48:29 PM
Who knows. But it's downright rude.

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moto
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: lorddef on May 10, 2007, 04:57:51 PM
Mostlikely a bot just submiting a 1
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: motorollin on May 10, 2007, 05:00:27 PM
Why?

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moto
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: Homer on May 10, 2007, 06:16:20 PM
Maybe they think its the "No.1" image  :-?
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 10, 2007, 06:19:40 PM
yeah maybe somebody thinks the images are low quality.  I usualy only vote on images I like, ignoring the ones I don't like... but come on man people can vote anyway they like.. there are pleny horrable images in there.

YOU ARE TAKING THIS MUCH TO SERIOSLY!  




 
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: mel_zoom on May 10, 2007, 06:59:56 PM
"yeah maybe somebody thinks the images are low quality. I usualy only vote on images I like, ignoring the ones I don't like... but come on man people can vote anyway they like.. there are pleny horrable images in there.

YOU ARE TAKING THIS MUCH TO SERIOSLY!"

...and plenty of horrible spelling in there!
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: TheMagicM on May 10, 2007, 07:01:16 PM
I dunno, but I Just rated the walker image a "1".  :crazy:

I'm more interested in the comments.. there are some funny guys on AO.  
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: orange on May 10, 2007, 07:02:16 PM
do you think it could be.. :nervous:  
OMG its him, the 'mil spec' guy is back, noooo   :egad:
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: McVenco on May 10, 2007, 08:06:46 PM
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orange wrote:
do you think it could be.. :nervous:  
OMG its him, the 'mil spec' guy is back, noooo   :egad:


:lol:

I can't really care for the image ratings. Maybe it's a valuable extra on a site where tens of thousands of people visit every day, but hardly for this community portal.

I never voted for any picture anyway.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 10, 2007, 10:14:48 PM
@Mel_zoom
Bad spelling becasue I'm not spending to much time writeing...not taking this very seriously....
BTW how did you C homework go with every guy on here "helping" you should be a wiz by now.....

maybe it's you voting low on the images?

@TheMagicM

you are so right.. the image comments a re great, much less uptight than most of the stuff that get posted on a regular thread....more fun like over at EAB.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 10, 2007, 10:57:41 PM
I doubt you will find out who it is because you don't even need to be logged in to vote. I too find it really annoying and I refuse to submit anything new until it is stopped.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 10, 2007, 11:42:04 PM
@adz
LOL, wow stick it to the man!  My image must be top rated at amiga.org or I won't play. bwahhhhahahah
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 01:42:31 AM
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guru-666 wrote:
@adz
LOL, wow stick it to the man!  My image must be top rated at amiga.org or I won't play. bwahhhhahahah


Whatever :roll: Please spare us from any more of your drivel.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: odin on May 11, 2007, 01:49:30 AM
@guru-666:

You sir, are a length.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: on May 11, 2007, 01:51:12 AM
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adz wrote:
I doubt you will find out who it is because you don't even need to be logged in to vote. I too find it really annoying and I refuse to submit anything new until it is stopped.


This sounds awfully self sufficient.

It sure feels like you have some very questionnable motivations.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 01:58:12 AM
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eslapion wrote:

This sounds awfully self sufficient.

It sure feels like you have some very questionnable motivations.



Let me put this in very plain English for you all...


There is some arsehole who is voting "1" for every image that pops up on a.org, regardless of the image content. Personally, I don't want to fall victim to this tool, so until it stops, I don't want to submit any more images. Sounds pretty damn logical to me.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: odin on May 11, 2007, 02:16:57 AM
On the other hand, the ratings mean nothing.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 02:21:35 AM
on the same hand, the images are not that good.
@adz
my dirivel is more entertaining than you self endulgant whining.  Somebody does not like my pitures...... LOL what ever  :roll:

Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 02:27:10 AM
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odin wrote:
On the other hand, the ratings mean nothing.


In the grand scheme of things, you are right, however, the reality of it is that this kind of, dare I say, anti-social behaviour should not be tolerated.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 02:28:43 AM
well what if somebody where voting 10 for all images... is that o.k with you?
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 02:29:38 AM
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guru-666 wrote:
on the same hand, the images are not that good.
@adz
my dirivel is more entertaining than you self endulgant whining.  Somebody does not like my pitures...... LOL what ever  :roll:




Your drivel is nothing but mindless banter that should be relegated to the nearest mental health facility. Now get back in your box until you have something valuable to add to this thread.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: on May 11, 2007, 02:31:27 AM
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adz wrote:
Let me put this in very plain English for you all...


There is some arsehole who is voting "1" for every image that pops up on a.org, regardless of the image content. Personally, I don't want to fall victim to this tool, so until it stops, I don't want to submit any more images. Sounds pretty damn logical to me.


I diagnose... excessive susceptibility accompanied with a superiority complex.

In other words...  :boohoo:  "people don't like me!"  :boohoo:
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 02:32:01 AM
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guru-666 wrote:
well what if somebody where voting 10 for all images... is that o.k with you?


My god, you can actually put something intelligent forward.

In answer to your question, no, that would be just as bad, it’s a pointless exercise that serves the community no useful purpose.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 02:33:28 AM
mindless to you pal... whats realy mindless is that you care... for you info I just voted 10 on a number of your images... so maybe you can feel better out your photos... I like the spider he is cool....
Now that you have ben confimed as the best photorapher on amiga.org will you got back into your box please?  Stay there until os5 is released.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 02:34:09 AM
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eslapion wrote:

"people don't like me!"


There's a reason for that.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 02:38:11 AM
so you are telling me that if I vote 1 on your images that I would be anti-social.... interesting theory.....
still gave you a 10 for the spider.
But I give you a 1 for be a good sport..
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 02:42:03 AM
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guru-666 wrote:
mindless to you pal... whats realy mindless is that you care... for you info I just voted 10 on a number of your images... so maybe you can feel better out your photos... I like the spider he is cool....
Now that you have ben confimed as the best photorapher on amiga.org will you got back into your box please?  Stay there until os5 is released.


I never said I wanted to be the herald as the best, all I said was that I didn't want to recieve a "1" for something that clearly doesn't deserve a "1". This thread is so damn typical of the Amiga community in general, there is no compromise or willingness to accept that people have varying opinions and points of view.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 02:44:53 AM
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guru-666 wrote:
so you are telling me that if I vote 1 on your images that I would be anti-social.... interesting theory.....
still gave you a 10 for the spider.
But I give you a 1 for be a good sport..


Voitng "1" on every single image that appears on this site is, IMO, anti-social, but that seems to be a concept you have difficulting understanding.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 02:50:00 AM
how would you know if they voted one of every single image? you don't have that info.... but it also NOT TRUE, there are many images that are not rated at all.   And maybe somebody disliked ALL of you images...you know it's possible. A concpet you are strugeling to understand...it's a public vote, people can vote ANY way they want and they don't need to tell you why they did....
then we get to the interesting part, why do you care?  The images are for fun, not to prove youare a great photographer....there are other sites for that.

Trust me I understand your concept plenty.....
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: mr_a500 on May 11, 2007, 02:54:20 AM
I've noticed this for a while now and I think it is a bot (or an extremely immature person). In the last couple months, whatever/whoever is doing this just gives a 1 to every image in the latest images list at irregular intervals. The longer a screenshot stays in the current images list, the more 1 ratings it gets. I got four 1 ratings on my latest screenshot.

I think if it's possible, all previous 1-ratings should be removed and from now on only logged on users should be allowed to rate an image (or forced to comment when rating).

Otherwise, it's best not to have ratings at all (or "Top Ten"). It's useless when 10 people take the time to give an honest rating of an image, then some idiot/bot just trashes it without a thought.


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On the other hand, the ratings mean nothing.


Ratings are an incentive for people to submit the best stuff they can and a way for people to reward someone who does great work. It also helps people find what others consider to be "the best".

When looking at a "top ten" list, people are looking for what others consider to be "the best" - not "some random average images that managed to escape having their ratings trashed".
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 03:04:29 AM
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guru-666 wrote:
how would you know if they voted one of every single image? you don't have that info.... but it also NOT TRUE, there are many images that are not rated at all.


It is true, and I'm not the only one who believes it.

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And maybe somebody disliked ALL of you images...you know it's possible. A concpet you are strugeling to understand...


Doubt it as I've never recieved a "1".

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it's a public vote, people can vote ANY way they want and they don't need to tell you why they did....
then we get to the interesting part,


Its now become a pointless public vote because of one mindless individual, perhaps its you who is responsible?

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why do you care?  The images are for fun, not to prove youare a great photographer....there are other sites for that.


I don't like pointless criticism and idiotic behaviour.

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Trust me I understand your concept plenty.....


I doubt it.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 03:06:55 AM
*maybe* That did not happen to my images.  Consider that somebody looks at all new images and dislikes them?  
I think  thats just as likly as the bot idea.  Anyway mr_a500 don;t worry we all know you make kick butt sceen grabs and have tricked your 500 out to the max!  respect.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 03:12:01 AM
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guru-666 wrote:
*maybe* That did not happen to my images.  Consider that somebody looks at all new images and dislikes them?  
I think  thats just as likly as the bot idea.  Anyway mr_a500 don;t worry we all know you make kick butt sceen grabs and have tricked your 500 out to the max!  respect.


Look dude this can keep going and going, unless of course a mod locks it, I've got sweet FA to do at work and at least this keeps me looking busy.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 03:21:43 AM
@adz
"I don't like pointless criticism and idiotic behaviour."

then you should stop now....

Yeah , great idea just blame me...brilliant detective work.

Also you now do have a 1 now..... don't worry...they can't all be winners, I think this will be a great life lesson for you.

Anyway while some of your shots are good, most have bad composition, esp the computer chips.  But thats just me... I do have a degree in fine art if that makes this more constructive for you.  Also they are very cliche and conceptualy emply.  When you take a picture it helps the viewer if you have a vision or a point.  Whats in the BG does matter, when you shoot he amiga your lighting is flat and the colors are cold...not good product photos.  

That being said my pictures are just garbage from an artisic perspective. Just hackzor porn.. waiting for 1's


BTW here is the best phot of them all!
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2009=30
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: adz on May 11, 2007, 03:33:35 AM
@guru-666

You are indeed a length and quite frankly I don't give a toss what you think about my photos.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: guru-666 on May 11, 2007, 03:40:23 AM
@adz

but what about the cop picture! LOL. Now thats entertainment....  a 10 for sure.


does lenght mean my lines are to long?

Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: stopthegop on May 11, 2007, 04:41:52 AM
Is "Length" a proper noun in this context?  
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: koaftder on May 11, 2007, 05:05:52 AM
I like the pictures section.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: motorollin on May 11, 2007, 07:12:18 AM
This thread has become really pathetic. For the brainless idiots out there who seem to be incapable of interpreting the simplest thread, I will explain in explicit detail exactly *why* I find this behaviour annoying.

Whether or not *you* *personally* value the ratings on the photos, I do. I like to see what people think of my screenshots, and particularly my PSU hack. The day I submitted the photos, I looked down the list of recent submissions and they had ALL been rated with a 1. I find it very difficult to believe that somebody looked at all of those pictures and in a balanced and open-minded way decided that they were all deserving only of a 1. So I can only conclude that somebody is giving all of the pictures an arbitrary rating out of spite.

For the record: this does not annoy me because I have a superiority complex, because I think people "don't like me" or because I can't fathom that my pictures do not deserve a low rating. If somebody genuinely believes that one of my photos deserves a low rating then fine, give it a low rating and maybe leave a comment explaining what you didn't like. But when a whole load of pictures are consecutively given a rating of 1 for no good reason, then somebody is behaving very spitefully.

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Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: uncharted on May 11, 2007, 02:37:59 PM
Another thing to be considered with people rating everything 1 (or 10 for that matter) is that it removes the feedback mechanism.  The rating allows considerate posters to gauge what kind of stuff people want to see.  If I post two different wallpapers that I have made and one gets a high rating and the other gets a low rating, then I know that people want more stuff like the former and I will not post stuff like the latter again.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: stopthegop on May 11, 2007, 02:49:13 PM
Has anyone noticed a high number of 5.5 ratings on images with only two votes? i.e. (10+1)/2 = 5.5.  Is there a "10" bandit too?  
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: mr_a500 on May 11, 2007, 05:26:45 PM
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Has anyone noticed a high number of 5.5 ratings on images with only two votes? i.e. (10+1)/2 = 5.5. Is there a "10" bandit too?


I think you're right. Take a look at the "Hardware Top 10". Every single image is from the Amiga 500 section and every single one has one 10 rating. So it looks like the "10 bot" is scanning Hardware/Amiga 500 at the moment.
Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: koaftder on May 11, 2007, 05:33:02 PM
Amiga.Org Pro Tip #223:

How to bump your picture up in the ranks under "Most Popular".  Set your keyboard repeat rate down, pull up your picture in the image section, tape down your F5 key, go out to lunch.

Title: Re: Image ratings
Post by: orange on May 14, 2007, 11:18:14 AM
I think the bigger problem is that notification system seems to be nonfunctional so I have to visit all my photos to check if someone left a comment and wants reply.. :roll: