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Offline kolla

Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2010, 04:26:44 AM »
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 04:41:56 AM »
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I don't think you can copyright chips, only software.  (o:
The eproms aren' kickstarts until you load software on them.
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2010, 06:55:35 PM »
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The eproms aren' kickstarts until you load software on them.

And nothing is illegal when we change our own AMIGA ROMS, if it remains in private use, without being released. We have purchased original ROMs (with AMIGA or only chip).

But a question remains: if I, French, I change the ROM and I invent the ROM 3.9.3: what are the risks? AMIGA.COM is still down and nobody knows who retains the rights to the ROMS and sources.

It is very strange what is happening right now: the announcement of Hyperion, the website AMIGA.COM, the false announcement COMMODORE USA ...
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2010, 08:58:31 PM »
where can I get 3.9 roms?

booting from usb and all that sounds great.
 

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2010, 10:41:33 PM »
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I think this is a phenomenon that you will witness frequently only in Amiga.org. Almost Every time someone posts a good tutorial, there will always be the guy (usually more than one) that will try to ruin the thread and discourage the original poster.
 Why is this and why only here? It's is beyond me.


Yes its true... and more when the word "piracy" is used ramdonly.
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 11:24:27 PM »
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And nothing is illegal when we change our own AMIGA ROMS, if it remains in private use, without being released. We have purchased original ROMs (with AMIGA or only chip).

Well, the question is - do you own a legal copy of OS3.9 for those machines?

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But a question remains: if I, French, I change the ROM and I invent the ROM 3.9.3: what are the risks? AMIGA.COM is still down and nobody knows who retains the rights to the ROMS and sources.

The risk of getting chased by Amiga Inc. or even Haage & Partner is rather low, I suspect. The risk of getting a "stop doing that, or else ..." from Hyperion and/or Cloanto a little higher. The risk of getting chased around on the web, being banned from certain sites, mailed and harassed by their volunteering crowd of henchmen, though, is rather high. Whether any of them actually have legal grounds to stand on for harassing people over this is an interesting question.

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It is very strange what is happening right now: the announcement of Hyperion, the website AMIGA.COM, the false announcement COMMODORE USA ...
Nah, it's same old same old, really :laughing:
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2010, 01:18:46 AM »
Would not mind those roms for my A1200
 

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2010, 01:31:01 AM »
Maybe that guy must sell these kickstarts, amiga.com dont exist, hyperion and haage & partner dont care about the classic amiga, if someone has to wait for them to make a move, better to wait sitting IMHO.
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2010, 01:37:01 AM »
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The risk of getting chased around on the web, being banned from certain sites, mailed and harassed by their volunteering crowd of henchmen, though, is rather high.


Yea i'm really getting sick of these pious wankers.

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2010, 02:49:50 AM »
I say hack and copy all you like with OS3-like ROMs. Who really gives a ..... and if they do, they better have lots of money - lawsuits we love 'em!
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2010, 02:57:37 AM »
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2010, 03:06:34 AM »
Hmm, a piracy debate:


I seriously doubt Amiga inc., Cloanto, Haage or Hyp. cares if you resell the roms, most of the roms in circulation these days are pirated. I bought a 2.04/3.1 rom from UK, ity arrived w/ data wiped sticker. Put it in the Amiga, still worked, figured the seller tricked customs?

 If MS wanted to fry the hundreds of pirates pirating their old OSes, they could, but they really don't do it because they don't sell those OSes anymore. If they cared, tehy still sell it.
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2010, 04:03:59 AM »
Hmm, a piracy debate:


I seriously doubt Amiga inc., Cloanto, Haage or Hyp. cares if you resell the roms, most of the roms in circulation these days are pirated. I bought a 2.04/3.1 rom from UK, ity arrived w/ data wiped sticker. Put it in the Amiga, still worked, figured the seller tricked customs?

If MS wanted to fry the hundreds of pirates pirating their old OSes, they could, but they really don't do it because they don't sell those OSes anymore. If they cared, tehy still sell it.
#DMCA and copyrights suck!

@DC270- right on!

I find this whole piracy debate to be hillarious!  I got the impression that Joe T. was kidding in his post.  And if not...  Really?  Seriously, Joe?

From what I can tell, these guys are taking existing stuff and sticking it into a ROM and bunging it into their Amigas.  You bought  the Amiga.  You bought the updated OS.  If you wanted USB or IDE or etc., then you probably bought that hardware too.  And it probably came with some sort of drivers.  You paid, somehow or other, for all that software which you are now rearranging to your heart's content.  Good for you!

Unless you're selling it for a profit, what's the problem?
 

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2010, 04:46:10 AM »
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Unless you're selling it for a profit, what's the problem?


Nothing illegal about selling stickers for a profit. Stickers meant to be glued onto EPROMs. Heck, they even bothered to put information about copyrights info on the stickers, about who they think are the owners of the content of the EPROMs. Great stickers! :)
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2010, 10:03:20 AM »
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Well, the question is - do you own a legal copy of OS3.9 for those machines?

Yep I've the original CDROM !



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Nothing illegal about selling stickers for a profit. Stickers meant to be glued onto EPROMs. Heck, they even bothered to put information about copyrights info on the stickers, about who they think are the owners of the content of the EPROMs. Great stickers! :)

I don't think so: AMIGA name is copyrighted !
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 31, 2010, 01:47:48 PM »
They don't have a case, if they want to stop piracy, keep on selling it. Who stopped me from selling a machine on ebay with Amithlon/ win 2k without cds or licenses for either? Nobody! because they wouldn't have a case because they don't offer them anymore. When a company ceases sale of a product, consider it fair game!
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