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Title: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: persia on September 24, 2010, 06:57:35 PM
So does the new C=USA plan to make a copy of the original Commodore All-in-one?

(http://www.commodore.ca/history/company/pet_preview/cover_pet_et_oct78.JPG)
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Franko on September 24, 2010, 07:27:37 PM
Gawd, aint seen one of those things in decades, reminds me of something out of the old Dr Who's or Blake's 7... :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: VingtTrois on September 24, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: persia;581055
So does the new C=USA plan to make a copy of the original Commodore All-in-one?

Yep with graphic card named PETPPC (3500*2500 32Bits - 1024 sprites!) like the picture on the PET screen :)
Perhaps compatible Z80/6502/6510/6581/680x0 and PPC.
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: tone007 on September 24, 2010, 08:21:05 PM
I go on the internets with mine!

http://lyonlabs.org/commodore/geoLink/eduirc.jpg
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Darrin on September 24, 2010, 08:29:52 PM
The PET was the first computer I ever used.  Our headmaster managed to get hold of one and didn't have a clue and he let a couple of us use it during lunch hour (this was a couple of years before we even had Computer Studies classes - you had to go to the "big" school and do O Levels for that).  I think it was a CBM 4032...

It was enough for me to ask for a VIC-20 for Christmas.  :)
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: VingtTrois on September 24, 2010, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: tone007;581089
I go on the internets with mine!

http://lyonlabs.org/commodore/geoLink/eduirc.jpg


Only one word (smile!): :banana:
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Darrin on September 24, 2010, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: tone007;581089
I go on the internets with mine!

http://lyonlabs.org/commodore/geoLink/eduirc.jpg


Is that a C64 in a PET case?
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: TheGoose on September 24, 2010, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: tone007;581089
I go on the internets with mine!

http://lyonlabs.org/commodore/geoLink/eduirc.jpg


Nice one. Commodore, they figured out there were really only about 64 things a human needed to function in society. This machine would teach'em to you!

Does that have a SID in it?
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: tone007 on September 24, 2010, 09:58:06 PM
Yup, the Educator 64 was a plain old C64 motherboard complete with SID and color graphics (but monochrome monitor) stuck into a PET style case.
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Darrin on September 24, 2010, 10:16:40 PM
Quote from: tone007;581107
Yup, the Educator 64 was a plain old C64 motherboard complete with SID and color graphics (but monochrome monitor) stuck into a PET style case.


So it isn't a custom job?  Commodore actually made them?
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: tone007 on September 24, 2010, 10:27:39 PM
Yes, a small number when they were trying to break into the educational market that Apple had taken over.
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Franko on September 24, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
Eeh Bah gum, went I wert a lad, all we had was this little beauty of a computer, if I recall correctly the OS was something called Abacus BC 3000. Ok granted the gfx were not too great but if you arranged the pixels (well, coloured little beads) properly you could make a little face. :)

And if you and some friends had one you could join them all together with bit's of sting and you were on the net... :)

Ahhh, the good old days, you kids don't even know your born... :biglaugh:

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/abacus.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Darrin on September 24, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Franko;581120
Eeh Bah gum, went I wert a lad, all we had was this little beauty of a computer, if I recall correctly the OS was something called Abacus BC 3000. Ok granted the gfx were not too great but if you arranged the pixels (well, coloured little beads) properly you could make a little face. :)

And if you and some friends had one you could join them all together with bit's of sting and you were on the net... :)

Ahhh, the good old days, you kids don't even know your born... :biglaugh:

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/abacus.jpg)


Cool!  From the number of strings I see it used a decimal system for processing data!  Way ahead of its time.  :D
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Darrin on September 25, 2010, 12:14:10 AM
Quote from: tone007;581113
Yes, a small number when they were trying to break into the educational market that Apple had taken over.


Interesting, I've never seen one before.  I wonder if there were options for a colour display?  I guess back then it would have added several hundred Dollars to the price.
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Iggy on September 25, 2010, 12:41:35 AM
OMG, I haven't seen one of those since I was in High Scool (and I am not a young man)!
 
I used to read Creative Computing magazine when it was in the since digit issue numbers. I remember the S100 based systems and SS50 based systems that were common before the PET and the TRS-80 Model 1 were introduced.
 
Its scary to remember how psyched I was that already assembled computers were going to be available to the general public. I remember telling everyione that one day everyone would have one, but I couldn't for the life of me come up with the reason why.
 
Damn things have evolved. What could you do with the PET? Play Star Trek?
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: motrucker on September 25, 2010, 06:33:58 AM
Quote from: Darrin;581133
Interesting, I've never seen one before.  I wonder if there were options for a colour display?  I guess back then it would have added several hundred Dollars to the price.

Not on the Educator - monochrome only!  to keep cost down so schools could afford 'em.
This computer was aimed at the classroom only...
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: RobertB on September 25, 2010, 07:00:38 AM
Quote from: Iggy;581134
What could you do with the PET? Play Star Trek?

See all the applications for the first PET 2001s at

http://www.commodore.ca/history/company/PET_Brochure/oldest_pet_brochure.htm

Later PETs were even more capable, running languages like Forth and Pascal, working with ham radios, serving as BBSes, and more.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: RobertB on September 25, 2010, 07:15:58 AM
Quote from: Darrin;581133
Interesting, I've never seen one before.

More Educator 64 pics are near the bottom of

http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm

Here's another pic of it from CommVEx v6 2010 --

http://www.dickestel.com/images/expo787.jpg

Finally, check out the Educator 64 photos from that same show at

http://pdxcug.org/commvex/commodore_vegas_expo_commvex_v6_2010.asp

but don't be fooled by the false "blue" color on the screen of the E64.  :)
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I wonder if there were options for a colour display?

You can connect a composite color monitor/t.v., like a Commodore 1701/1702., to the E64.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on September 25, 2010, 08:12:33 AM
Quote from: Franko;581120
Eeh Bah gum, went I wert a lad, all we had was this little beauty of a computer, if I recall correctly the OS was something called Abacus BC 3000. Ok granted the gfx were not too great but if you arranged the pixels (well, coloured little beads) properly you could make a little face. :)

And if you and some friends had one you could join them all together with bit's of sting and you were on the net... :)

Ahhh, the good old days, you kids don't even know your born... :biglaugh:

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/abacus.jpg)

That's all we had in my original primary school. Calculators were frowned on too. My years 5 and 6 primary school had an Apple II.
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Darrin on September 25, 2010, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: RobertB;581155
More Educator 64 pics are near the bottom of

http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm

Here's another pic of it from CommVEx v6 2010 --

http://www.dickestel.com/images/expo787.jpg

Finally, check out the Educator 64 photos from that same show at

http://pdxcug.org/commvex/commodore_vegas_expo_commvex_v6_2010.asp

but don't be fooled by the false "blue" color on the screen of the E64.  :)

You can connect a composite color monitor/t.v., like a Commodore 1701/1702., to the E64.


Thanks.  Interesting stuff there.  I like the "steam punked" C64.  :)
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: Darrin on September 25, 2010, 11:26:46 AM
Quote from: motrucker;581149
Not on the Educator - monochrome only!  to keep cost down so schools could afford 'em.
This computer was aimed at the classroom only...


I have to admit that not coming from a wealthy home I had to use a second-hand black and white TV with my VIC-20 and C64 in my bedroom unless I wanted to drag them into the living room.
Title: Re: Original Commodore All-in-one
Post by: pwermonger on September 25, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
One of the first computers I used was a Pet 2001 that was our Physics Teachers in High School. He had some simple BASIC programs he wrote to do some calculations.
 
Then our school got its first "computer center" made up of Tandy Model III's my last year.
 
I got a Pet from someone at work whos father had been a collector, an 8032. Then I got the idea to take a non working Pet and gut it to put in a modern PC and have that awesome retro look. Bought a "broken" Pet 4032 for $40 and getting it home I decided while I prepared my tools to perform the autopsy I might as well turn it on. I had removed a loose screw that I heard bouncing around and was under the motherboard. As I returned with my screwdriver I saw the "ready" glowing on the screen. This non working machine was working perfectly just that people arent used to computers  having to "warm up" when you flip the switch before you see anything. Well, I will not destroy a functioning Commodore computer so I now have two working Pet machines as well as a CBM-II B128 that later joined them.
 
Commodore had a good idea and product. By including the IEEE-488 interface it was a cheap way to control machinery, lab equipment, as well as the Pets own disk drives and printers. Problem was Commodore was too small and cash strapped to truly attack the business market and changed direction to go after the home.