Virtual Studios (such as Cubase) also for AMIGA?

[CDE_MusiX]

Hi, AMIGA was a versatile system to make music with that classic trackers like ProTracker or so...
But now the times are a bit changed. I've know the AMIGA culture isn't definitely dead, and I know some music software is created also for AMIGA platforms (Like MilkyTracker if i don't miss)
But exists a software "Virtual Studio" like FL Studio or Cubase, that makes music using modern VST and ASIO technologies? Just for curiousity... Thanks!

[bloodline]

In a word, no... but you can use HDRecord for some basic nonlinear audio editing...

But there is nothing to compare to Logic Pro 7.2... that said OctaMED soundstudio is great for tracking using the amiga native audio which is rather unique in its sound quality.

[hooligan]

using the amiga native audio which is rather unique in its sound quality.

Well yes, if you like crappy 8-bit {bleep}e.

[Stevo]

oh come on, it's crappy 14-bit {bleep}e with OSS ;-)

[CDE_MusiX]

But the AMIGAs with mediator PCI can support a 16bit SoundCard.
Don't tell you nothing the use of the AHI?

[hooligan]

Soundstudio didnt support ahi, im afraid.

[derringer3]

Digibooster and some other tracker supports ahi. But the problem is the following:

My 68040@33MHz is too slow for my old 16bit 32channel xm musics on digibooster. Some of my 16ch which is not using in the same time all of 16ch playing perfectly. (about 12ch) Maybe i'm using the wrong version of ahi. (6 or something like that, don't blame i don't remember correctly)
Or the problem is with my gfx card, when i choose any gfx card screen mode the system request window draw things slow as hell. So maybe there is a bug or something.
And digibooster has some cool features in its own days, but now its feels like old, dusty, and noisy music maker software.

I tried some version of old ahi which is made for ppc cards. There is some speed gain, but i can't configure it correctly so, i dropped the idea. (And this version is sharware, not freeware)

Anyway making music with trackkers was good in the '90, but now VST plugins ruling the world. And for crystal clear drum-machines, and other synths withs stereo samples and full of effects demand a very high processor speed. Even on my Core2 Duo CPU gets sometime 70-90% load on fruityloops 7.

[Karlos]

hooligan wrote:

using the amiga native audio which is rather unique in its sound quality.

Well yes, if you like crappy 8-bit {bleep}e.

I happen to love it, actually. Everything has a place in electronic music and Paula's natural graininess and non-linearity provides a pretty unique distortion to samples that you can waste hours trying to achieve on modern kit.

[derringer3]

Karlos please explain this.

[spihunter]

I'm 100% with Karlos on this. Paula is like the new SID. You just cant recreate the sound with "lo-fi" plug-ins. Its the main reason I'm still using my A1200 & Octamed

[spihunter]

@CDE_MusiX,

Well, there's always Prostation Audio

But its mostly a recording program and I dont think your A1200/030 would be up to it :lol:

[Karlos]

derringer3 wrote:
Karlos please explain this.

Simple. Paula has a unique "lo fi" sound that happens to be especially useful for many kinds of electronic music. The non-linear amplitude response, the grainy (but not hissy due to the response curve) 8-bit sound, the sample replay aliasing  gives it a sound I've never been able to properly reproduce with effects processors/plugins. It sounds fantastic for all kinds of dirty percussion breaks and bass sounds.

[hooligan]

just one question.. Are you guys high?

Amiga had its time a couple decades ago when pc did beep.. but that was decades ago. Comparing it to SID is like comparing Budweiser to Champagne.

[hooligan]

btw are there some Soundblaster-fans claiming the old SB-cards having an unique sound? ;-)

[Karlos]

hooligan wrote:
btw are there some Soundblaster-fans claiming the old SB-cards having an unique sound? ;-)

Probably not, but to be fair those old FM synths can sound pretty damn good routed through some effects processing. I have an ancient yamaha keyboard that I use for that sort of thing.

It all depends on what you personally like the sound of. I happen to like dirty electronic sounds.

Let's face it, the TR808 was about the most unrealistic sounding drum synth possible, that didn't stop it captivating an entire generation of musicians and beyond. They embraced it for what it was, not for what it was supposed to be.