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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: CU_AMiGA on October 17, 2003, 03:50:06 PM
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Forget about the best games on the Amiga! We all know that the likes of Lemmings, SWOS, Cannon Fodder and Speedball 2 kicked ass! But what were the worse games ever to feature on the beloved Amiga? Ones that make a mokey of the Amiga hardware. My vote would have to be Outrun! The Master System version was better! Or that muched hyped game Rise of the Robots, but that was crap on all systems if i recall!
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Chaos Engine 2 - Man, what a disappointment... :cry:
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I never played Chaos Engine 2 but i heard that it was a let down. Pity, i thought the former was pretty kick ass! :-) There were worse games on the Amiga though weren't there?
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EPIC.
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Sure, but I never bought those ;-) Chaos Engine 2 should and could have been awesome but it sat in development hell whilst the Bitmaps made the transition to the PC market before being released half-finished with lots of GFX from The Chaos Engine botched in, lousy AI and a seemingly complete lack of playtesting - shameful - particularly from such a respected Amiga games developer. :-(
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Epic
Testament
Black Viper
Trolls/Dennis/Oscar
...and in the "hugely disappointing sequel" category:
Turrican 3
Dungeon Master II
Alien Breed 3D II The Killing Grounds
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Alien Breed 3D II The Killing Grounds
Are you insane? That is probably one of the greatest games ever!
AB3D rocks too.
Sincerely,
-Kenneth Straarup.
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Street Fighter II Championship Edition.
WAY too much disk swapping.
Game SUCKED!!!
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_LinchpiN_ wrote:
Street Fighter II Championship Edition.
WAY too much disk swapping.
Game SUCKED!!!
WHD install Street Fighter 2 and then you get a better game. No more disk swapping! :-) AB3D2 was okay if you have the right machine and if you changed the installer script for yourself!
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rofl , people saying theese games are crap...
black viper is very good (neo / lightshock 96) VERY GOOD game
anyway crap games..
Joyride / titan
TurboRacer 3d / alive
trolls AGA *cd32 (ecs was good)
Oscar Aga*cd32 (ecs was good)
Zool 1 AGA *cd32 (ecs was brilliant)
Burning rubber Ocean (both aga and ecs)
chaos engine 2 was a major gone bad ;(
Eat the whistle was horrible also ;(
Rise of the robots Ecs,aga,cd32
Dracula (psygnosis)
Last action hero (psygnosis)
cliffhanger (psygnosis)
pinball mania
and heaps more crap games around, but none worth to mention i guess.
aargh i get mad when i think of it....
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Without a doubt, "Dennis", probably the worst platformer in the world.
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Kang Fu was pretty damn bad effort for a game :)
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Championship Manager 2. Good on the PC, but way too slow on a basic A1200
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Yeah, Rise of the Robots was awful. I've heard the sequel is even worse. Thankfully, the Amiga version was cancelled.
I could never stand HOI. The Final Gate and Prey: An Alien Encounter for CD32 were very sad, too.
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Tales from Heaven - AF claimed it as the Mario killer, bad graphics, bad gameplay, just bad all around.
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Worst games I saw:
Night Breed the adventure game, never understood it.
Cool World, boring and repetative.
Captain Planet and the Planeteers.
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Worst games without a doubt are those I blame for helping kill the Amiga...
Ultima VI
Wing Commander
Kings Quest 5
Ultima VI was programmed from the ground up on an IBM/Clone development platform and after Origins' abysmal failure with Ultima V (remember the 1 track soundtrack anyone?) they had an opportunity to redeem themselves...this wasn't it...slow as molasses on a 68000 because it uses custom IBM/Clone CPU blitting routines.
Wing Commander was probably the most disgraceful port ever...the 68000 could have handled the blitting for the ships with its eyes closed but instead we had to suffer through brutal CPU driven blitting calculations that brought our 68000s to a standstill...utterly, utterly disgraceful.
Kings Quest 5 could (with my limited Amiga hardware knowledge) have been programmed in Extra Half bright mode which would have allowed for a much more colourful palette of 64 colours as opposed to 32. Can someone explain to me why your main character moving alone over a static bitmap brought the mighty Amiga to its knees...
answer: not only did this terrible port use custom CPU blitting routines that didn't take advantage of the Amiga's hardware it also was built using an interpretive engine which created yet more work for the Amiga...thumbs down to the lazy buggers at Sierra. Should have been more colourful with a ripping soundtrack but alas...it wasn't.
These three games as mentioned in the Amiga downfall thread in the Hardware section are what I blame for many things...utterly disgraceful and abysmal...shame on Origina and Sierra.
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Days of Thunder.
Absolute willies.
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Epyx wrote:
Kings Quest 5 could (with my limited Amiga hardware knowledge) have been programmed in Extra Half bright mode...
I thought EHB was introduced with the ECS chipset. If it's an old game it would have been programmed to run on OCS.
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Kings Quest 5 was 1990 or 1991 on the IBM...and the port for the Amiga came out in 1991 so definately for ECS capable machines...
Not sure what machines had it or not...I could swear I remember Delux paint allowing me to use that mode on my Amiga 500 though.
UPDATE: Researching this it looks like the only machines that couldn't do EHB were some earlier Amiga 1000s that lacked the revised Denise...later 1000s and all Amiga 500 and up could do this mode.
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Wow some people are waaaay off! I hear people mentioning games that may have been disapointing, but certainly not the worst!
The worst games for the Amiga was quite a long list, there were more crappy games than any other platform. My guess is because lazy programmers simply ported the IBM version or ST/64 version instead writing specific Amiga version.
Let's see.. Some of the worst offenders.. Anything Titus ever made, god they sucked :-x Titus may have singlehandedly killed the Amiga. Umm.. The Amiga versions of Double Dragon were really, really bad. Made a Vic20 blush :-x
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A long time back I used to work at HMV in London's Oxford Street. When I started they'd just begun stocking video games - mostly Amiga, Atari ST and PC titles.
This was the year Captain Planet came out and was hotly tipped to be THE game that Xmas. When I came on board they were looking for someone to head up the games dept. - I knew pretty much everything there was to know about games at that time but had very little retail experience (particularly on that scale) so most of my purchasing was pretty small - 5 of this, 10 of that.
Coming up to Christmas though I was worried we were gonna run out of stock of key titles so I made a list of these key products and gave it to a manager (Mike something-or-other) to take care of the levels. BIG MISTAKE.
Mike was used to ordering top-selling CDs, videos and vinyl - It was pretty distressing when Captain Planet came in and it was absolute @#!$ - what was more distressing was that Mike had ordered 1000+ copies... Man, I couldn't give 'em away - they sat on the shelves for YEARS... They're probably in a landfill now...
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Whatchya taking' about - Outrun was great!
I think the game that bit the weiner the most was "Afterburner" - which I think was called "Afterburner USA" on the Amiga.
The arcade game was actually pretty good, but the conversion was an absolute stinker...
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
CDTV Pinball
There are others, but ... here comes Rover
gotta go
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Crazy Cars made me cry - so bad it is!
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Here you ppl sit and knock perfektly playable games (ok not all of them but quite a few) when there is an obvious winner for this Worst Game Award named "Colorado".
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titus mad some very good games!
titus the fox , prehistoric (yes i like that, though its amos) and their best amiga game ... CRAZY CARS III!!!!!!
yummy i loved cc3...
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Akira! A totally horrible game and I remember talk about how the company tried to force a magazine to give a good review on it.
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Last Ninja 2 was a horrid let down after the C64 version.
Streetfighter 2 was awful and made the Amiga look very bad next to the SNES version which was out of this world awesome at the time.
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Primal Rage didnt trransfer too well either to Amiga, not that it was a particuarly good game to begin with.
Also alot of early miggy stank compared to there c64 counterparts which really pushed the system. I guess the amigas power just wasnt reachable in the early days ;) Turboi Outrun comes instantly to mind, brilliant on c64 in both gfx and sound, yet wastotaly crap on miggy, and i agree about the double dragon games.
Another Anoyance was creatures. Played the game to death many time son c64 - brilliant, but it went abit cutsypoo on miggy and the game lost its appeal.
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Zool 1 AGA *cd32 (ecs was brilliant)
I have never played the aga verison, but allways though it was the exact same game, just with some improved gfx?
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The Amiga versions of Double Dragon were really, really bad. Made a Vic20 blush
I was never ever able to play that game, it just crashed my a500, though i had the orginal disk :-)
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I cant recall the name of the worst amiga game i ever played... All i can remember is:
It had a gorilla throwing some bananas or something, some stupid waterfall ...... This was one of the few orginal games i actually bought, it was damn boring and had loads of gfx glitches on my a500. No wonder why i had most pirated games ;(
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One of the worst games in my opinion was Deathmask - I'm sure I've mentioned this before.
StevenJGore wrote:
...and in the "hugely disappointing sequel" category:
Turrican 3
Dungeon Master II
Alien Breed 3D II The Killing Grounds
TKG was great IMHO. However it was universally slammed for its speed, which I can sympathise with.
However, you have to look at it in the light of the fact that Andy Clithero was working pretty much single handed on the engine and under pressure to get it out as quickly as possible.
Still, it ran fine on 040 in 2/3 screen, even better with the tkgturbo patch, and it actually was quite smooth on my friends CS MK3 (060@66MHz)... Mind you, clickboom's quake port was even faster on his system than TKG itself :lol:
From the gameplay POV, the thing I really hated was the stockpiling of ammo/health. They should have left it as it was in AB3D1, perhaps with a difficulty setting that sets the cap for ammo/health.
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Hmmm,
I think a very bad game for the Amiga was...
Sim City 2000
Nice game n all, but ugh, ran terribly on my 68030/50mhz! :-(
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Garfield
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Thomas the Tank Engine! :lol:
There really were a load of crap some of the games that were released on the Amiga!
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There are a couple of Amiga games on this list that haven't got the best ratings around. ;-)
The worst games ever? (http://fire.spejs.net/list.php?what=worst)
But then most people only tend to give ratings to the best games they've played so a lot of the really bad games haven't been rated yet.
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Oceans movie licenses, except perhaps Robocop 1.
Oh, and the pinball game that came with the Amiga Magic pack. Boy, does that suck! They should have thrown in Slam Tilt instead.
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you're talking about disk swapping? :-P
dark seed was a FANTASTIC game, if you had a hard drive :-D otherwise it deserves to go on this list, cause who has 6 disk drives ? :-P
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Lots of games released between 1996-97 were very poor, sadly. Except for some Doom games. And a few others.
Valhalla was one which you either loved or hated. I hated it. It was so dull I couldn't play it.
Catch 'em back in 1992 was horrid as well. Only played the demo of it, but at the time it got 25% in The One Amiga, about 40% lower than what they considered to be a poor game.
But let's not forget Kick Off '96. What exactly was the reviewer in CU Amiga magazine thinking when he gave an unplayable (litreally) game 79%? A score 69% higher than Amiga Format's and Amiga Power's scores put together, stats fans.
Reality games were usually sub-standard as well (Backbone was the better (simple, easy to use) game creator by far).
Dangerous streets. Mm. :-x
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Worst game ever?
hmm, Captain Planet & The Planeteers for A500+. came with Comic Special Edition of A500+. And Lemmings was awful too.
"GAZZA" wasnt too brilliant.
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Lemmings?! Awful?!
*Faints with sheer shock*
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I've been thinking about this thread a lot to come up with some of my worst games ever, and I've realized I haven't played many bad games on the Amiga, so here's my 3 games that were really bad due to some particular issue involved.
Shadow of the Beast 2 (the most unplayable game I have ever seen, can anyone get more than 5 minutes into the game without God mode turned on?)
Maniac Mansion - I loved this game on C64, unfortunately, the amiga one looked like it was a rip of the nintendo port, colors were all messed up, and the music truly sucked.
My other is The Krystal - probably Cinemawares worst game, mind you, IIRC they only published it. It was perfectly playable, it was just...bad.
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I agree with the person who said Double Dragon was awful. I think Baal was bad. But it was an EARLY Amiga game so I'll cut it some slack.
Barbarian was bad (not the one with the headchopping action, the other one).
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Truly awful games:
Hard Drivin' - BAD BAD BAD! My favorite arcade racing game of ALL TIME, reduced to a hardened pile of crap thanks to horrible conversion and idiotic design. Just braking and accelerating with the mouse buttons were difficult! Wah. I can't wait for MAME to get the original arcade hardware emulated.
Stun Runner - Even worse!
Count Duckula - No surprise.
Bill Elliot NASCAR - No concept of physics, whatsoever.
All Dogs Go to Heaven - It would make kids think about heaven, all right.
Lombard Rally - Awful controls. There seemed to be a lot of racing games with no sense of inertia.
Nevermind - I could NEVER find out how to play it!
Amnios - Slow as HELL. Definately did not deserve the glowing reviews. But, hey, Psygnosis was God back then.
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I do have a few nominations for lovably awful titles:
Cellica GT Rally - So awful, it was pretty funny to play, actually. The windsheild wipers were really cool. It would hardly ever boot, though.
Gridstart II - So totally pointless and even MORE frustrating than Pole Position, but I laughed like crazy when the cars blew up and haybales scattered all over the screen.
Double Dragon - Hysterical! The bad guys made vomiting sounds when they died! Double Dragon 2 was impossible to play, but almost as funny. Sadly, I can't get my DD2 disk to boot, anymore.
Garfield's Winter Tail - Lame game, but the music was great, and I rather liked the ice skating. I lost my disk, though. I hear other Garfield games caused the apocalypse.
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Aww, cmon, harddriven was funny though, When you went off the loop and headed straight upwards ,and then went off the loop, and then it accelerated like crazy, then the crappy explosion sound. :-D :-D :-D
HEHEHEHEHE ;-)
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lemmings sucked :-o
(Yes, I AM only joking :-D )
Sim City 2000 - you could run the game faster by emulating a Mac and uing that version.
Championship Manager 2 - dreradful conversion
and a game that probably nobody has played was 'Fantasy Football" - I could have wrote a better game in Amiga Basic
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What about 'ARGHH' !?... You were a giant who had to destruct villages by throwing flames like a dragon !...
And don't forget 'Dynasty war'
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Cedric
Testament
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Some of those games mentioned in that worst list link is controversial! :-)
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sir_inferno wrote:
Hey!! I see you like my old avatar! :-D
At least you did before you changed it :-o
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I think it was called Baraticus (psygnosis) very early CRAP game.
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According to that website mentioned earlier in this thread (forgotten the name of it), Tales From Heaven is the 3rd worst game ever, beating Rise Of the Robots.
It wasn't that bad! Very very poor, but not bile-inducing.
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I had to join this BBS just to reply to this thread!
I worked for Sweet 16 at SCI - a Seattle area retailer specializing in computer games - from 86-90, and then for various game developers after that. I have seen a lot of games. I'm sure you folks have too! But have you ever seen a game for the Amiga called:
"Mafdet and the Book of the Dead"?
It is, in my opinion, the worst game ever produced for the Amiga. I don't think I will get too many of you to agree with me, becuse I'd bet most of you have never played it. See, this game was soooo bad, that no sane person would have bought it, just based on the packaging and screenshots alone. Basicly I'm saying that this game was too bad to even bother booting up, just to verify it's badness.
So why did I have it? At out SCS franchise SCS (Software Centre in Southcenter for those of you in Seattle who might remember) we bought one of every game from every distributor., to compete with importers.
On the subject of bad games, someone mentioned "Last Action Hero".
I still have the review from the July 94 issue of the UK magazine "Amiga Power" up on my wall. It's a funny review. They gave it 3%, which basicly means Graphics - 1% (has graphics), Sound 1% (has sound), and Playability 1% (boots up). They mention that you can defeat the game by simply holding (or taping) down the fire button.
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Hey!! I see you like my old avatar!
At least you did before you changed it
heh heh, which one was that? i steal a lot of them from other forums, and they all end up in my pictures directory, sometimes i steal them from amiga.org and then don't realise :-D
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Also people. Please dont forget All dogs go to heaven. lol!
I HATED Nightbreed also. Yuk
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The worst game i have ever bought is "Obliterator" To buy a game because of a cool cover is not always the best thing to do :-(
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For me - Carrier Command
I was very young admittedly, but I couldn't work out what the #### was going on
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yeah carrier command was one of my first games could i figure it out? pffft. i could launch a plane, fly it about and die....
arrrrgh was a quality game! running around eating people, buring down houses and eating giant hamburgers. then fighting for the egg thing and that crappy "ug ug ugugug" music when you won the fight. great laugh :-D still play it today.
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Lemmings! Oh dear GAWD! What kind of socialistic wanker thought of putting those poor bastards through that level of torture. Either you work, or fall into lava. I mean, this is the kind of crap that the Chinese government might appreciate, but I am CIVILISED!
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@jonnopik
What r u on?
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Jesus, just because people used pirate copies of Carrier Command, it doesn't mean it's crap. Read the manual if you want to know what's going on. Carrier command has been a great game.
My list with the most crap Amiga Games:
-Metal Law (huge sprite with 2 frames for the movement)
-Rise of the robots
-Eat the Whistle (pile of ####e)
-Tube Warriors (AGA my ass)
-Championship Manager 2
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kd7ota wrote:
Aww, cmon, harddriven was funny though, When you went off the loop and headed straight upwards ,and then went off the loop, and then it accelerated like crazy, then the crappy explosion sound. :-D :-D :-D
HEHEHEHEHE ;-)
Well, I have had the PC version (back in the Amiga days I used a PC, I was too young to afford an Amiga so I used my dad's PC) of Hard Drivin' and it was very playable with a mouse-to-keyboard hack (no it was not an illegal version). Actually, it was my fav racing game 'till Stunts came for the PC.
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Has anyone ever played "Operation Cleanstreets".
The worst game I ever played on any platform.
:crazy:
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Here ya go:
1: Afterburner USA - WTF???
2: Rolling Thunder - Should've been as good as the arcade game.
3: Aquaventura - overhyped to the max (did it ever come out, or am I dreaming?)
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The Desktop Dynamite pack's very own 'DENNIS'. It should have been named 'detritus'.
It always bothered me when you had to choose between music or SoundFX in the old days of Amiga computing, so this was doubly irritating as a 32-Bit A1200 game.
Some pleasant backgrounds but like most film licenses there was barely any feeling of interaction.
The game did provide a stark contrast to the wonderful (but music-less) Oscar. Oh, and it came on a nice Amiga branded disk!