Daylight saving bug

[Zac67]

Methuselas wrote:

Actually, it's true. It does conserve energy "on paper", if you do the math.

A whopping ONE percent.....

... by using up (at least) THREE percent additional energy and causing millions of EUR/GBP/USD/... to be spent for measures (hardware, software, manpower) to cope with it - grand idea from the start. :-P

[Opus]

there are programs for Amiga if that is the machine you are talking about, windoze, and most likely Mac as well, that set the time automatically via the internet.

[AMC258]

I HATE the concept of DST, I especially hate all these new changes.  How is my stupid auto-DST VCR clock supposed to work now??  There are other embedded devices that are similar.

I do appreciate the new change though.  I have an hour of daylight when I get home from work until the end of DST, where otherwise I get home in complete darkness.  I wish they would just keep the DST time year round now.

But, my greatest wish would be that we all work on GMT and just deal with it.  It's so great in China, you never have to change your clock when you travel, and you don't have to worry about what time is it here or there.

[weirdami]

Arizona doesn't change its time, so in order to get the time right for TV shows, you have to know what time zone you match during the year.  :roll: Why does Stargate come on at 10PM? That's why.

[AMC258]

Stargate?  What is this stargate??  Oh!  Who cares?  It's on during Futurama. :-D

BTW one of my first Amiga experiences was a guy with a genlock recreating MST3K.  Before he could afford a genlock, he just taped paper cutouts to a TV and pointed a camera at it!  Those weird Minn'sotans!!! :crazy:

[LoadWB]

Floid wrote:

The question is why you haven't standardized on UTC for a production machine.  Is it because it's a MX?

I have no compelling reason to do so at this time.

[Colani1200]

Opus wrote:
there are programs for Amiga if that is the machine you are talking about, windoze, and most likely Mac as well, that set the time automatically via the internet.

I use facts from Aminet. It works quite nicely...

BTW (wondering what the reason for DST might be if it obviously doesn't save energy): There are conspiracy theorists who believe DST is just another instrument to suppress people. Quite absurd, but still an interesting thought. ;-)

[AMC258]

If it's meant to supress us, it sure has the opposite effect!  I am certainly more active during DST, and so is everyone else I know.

Well.... on the other hand, it does supress my Amiga software development!

[weirdami]

@AMC258

BTW one of my first Amiga experiences was a guy with a genlock recreating MST3K.

:idea:

Well, coincidentally, the other link in my signature is a site dealing with that stuff (MST3K fan-made videos). Just updated yesterday with Christmas themed homepage. :-D If you still know that guy, I'd be interested in seeing what he did and maybe even getting the info up on the site about it, too.
 

[Zac67]

Here we go again - just noticed that all times are 1 hour ahead unless I fake my TZ to GMT instead of MET.

I realize it's not that easy to fix but I'd appreciate an option to deactivate DST for an account. That way we wouldn't have to try to find out when the US start with DST - just imagine what our friends 'down under' have to do to their TZ settings to get it right throughout the year...

If this can't be done either, please consider posting a short 'DST settings changed' each time they do.

[bloodline]

Yup, I've had to move my TZ to GMT+1, but since this is a feature of A.org, I'm used to it now :-)

[LoadWB]

Could be an artifact in the older version of the board software a.org runs to remain compatible with Amiga browsers, which would be a seemingly fair trade-off.

I have had customers call me about the time on my servers being wrong, when it is actually the application which calculates the zone's DST information.  Blah.

[dcr8520]

I thought it was just another silly U.S. idiocy, I'm surprised other countries are doing this too.

:-o

I'm surprised there still exists people who thinks Americans are always the first on doing things. On Europe (or at least Spain, where I live) this is running for more than 30 years already, and yes... it is supposed to be as energy saving...

[Zac67]

Well, the US Americans were the first - this year. ;-)

[freqmax]

DST just seems such a mess. Not enough that it vary with country. It vary when it occurs, and that using non straightforward rules. Now it also seems that those rules change arbitrarily.

Conclusion go GMT! :madashell: :-D

Maybe the authorities should make rule files available. Such that one can schedule automatic download. So in the even the change the time zone data. It's automaticly updated. Even for old OS.

[Nlandas]

"Does anybody really know what time it is
Does anybody really care
If so I cant imagine why
Weve all got time enough to cry"