Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II

[Jupp3]

HyperionMP:

Sorry about expressing my personal opinion, which I am obviously not
allowed to have...

Well, I admit, haven't tried newest (quite recently released) update
on my A1200 too much... (Well, some time ago, some weird hardware
problem has been restricting its use, wouldn't use it much anyway,
hasn't been turned on within a month...)

I just got too bored trying to get previous version working... And
believe me, many time, I thought, that "Ah, now it works!" -untill it
crashed, yet again...

(And why bother, it's far too slow on my A1200 to be playable anyway)

Haven't tried it too much on Pegasos yet, haven't got it working yet
too well but that's might be due to settings...

But anyway, forgot what I wrote above - That's opinion, I, as legal
customer, am not allowed to have...

[Jupp3]

Mikey_C:

I don't really care anymore, if it works on my A1200 or not, as I
said,"It's too slow anyway"

So, more important would be to get it working on my Pegasos now...

Please note, as I said at the end of my last post:

I haven't much tried it on my Pegasos.

Okay, if you absolutely want to know, it does NOT work...

BUT as I said, that might well becouse of settings...

And becouse of that, I'm not making "public announcement" about it, at
least not before I've tried it a bit more...

At least Heretic II (with new update) works quite fine, so "there is
hope" :-)

As a Pegasos owner, I'm not allowed to have negative feelings about
competitors, yeah, lots of people have been saying that...

But there are reasons, why I'm using competiting products in the first
place...

[GadgetMaster]

It has become very common here on Amiga org for posters to trash amiga related companies.

Some of these companies advertise on this site and I fear that they will withdraw their advertising because they might assume that it can't be the right target audience judging by the hostile posts and needless attacks.

Things that should be discussed privately with the companies involved such as technical support are being brought onto public forums with humiliating title threads.

It can't be a good thing for A.org as this is a community site that needs every contribution it can get to stay in a good position.

There should be fair and equal moderation and when things get out of hand like cursing and personal attacks start the moderators should be more active in removing posts.

I am saying this for the benefit of this site and I can honestly say I do not have any other wish than to see the amiga community act in a mature and civilised way.

If we step back and look at ourselves from a distance it is not a very pretty picture.

Thank you for understanding my concerns.

GadgetMaster

[elendil]

What NistrousB and others said ;-)

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

[Jupp3]

But about thread topic...
Even IF the game was sent from Hyperion missing PC version, I dare
say, that reseller should have checked it before selling it forward...

[Navvie]

I played Quake2 at the WOA last year, and it ran far worse than my old p2 266 with voodoo3 could manage.

I don't know the spec of the Amiga I played it on, sorry... perhaps it was only a low wne 603e with a BVision?

Cheers,
Navvie.

[Navvie]

If A.O (and any of the Amiga world) has got to the point where you can't say a bad word about a company because they might withdraw their advertising/funding or whatever its very sad.

Who knows, maybe Freespace and Quake2 got such good reviews in Total Amiga because the guy who did it (I don't read it so...) was worried Hyperion might not send anymore games his way if he wrote bad things about them.

Who knows, maybe his personal opinion of Hyperion biased his review, or maybe he just wanted to give it a good review because Hyperion are one of the few companies still doing something for the Amiga.

Then again, maybe they are just great games.

Cheers,
Navvie.

[Warface]

It has become very common here on Amiga org for posters to trash amiga related companies.

I will sound a bit strange, but having posts like yours is good. Everyone is a bit sensitive now, and having ppl criticising/defending both "sides" is the sign of a healthy mixture of users here.

This thread is subject to customer support, unless Hyperion denies to help - which is not the case.

Anyway, most Pegasos owners have all Hyperion titles, and have little/no anomisity towards Hyperion. At least that is my impression.

[T_Bone]

> I played Quake2 at the WOA last year, and it ran
> far worse than my old p2 266 with voodoo3 could
> manage.

Remember, you're comparing that P2/266 with an intel lx/Bx chipset to a classic amiga.  :-D

[lempkee]

hmmm...

I completed Freespace ppc on my setup, with NO crashes what so ever, the only prob i had was when miamidx was running, this bug was fixed a few months ago...

Quake2 , completed it with a pc friend over the inet in multiplayer , never crashes ...its slow and all yes (26-30 fps in 640x480x16) but i didnt expect it to go over 100 fps on my lame 603 cpu, on 604 its better..

on amigaone it will fly

so stop complaining unless u have a reason, also the quake 2 release was under gpl and thats why there is 3 diff cd's when u buy it, 1 hyPERION cd (with hyperion exe + installer) and 1 MODS cd and quaKe 2 pC version , i bought mine from vesalia iirc and it was a fair price (30 gbp iirc) , they stated that it would be released like this before they sold it, so i dont see what the fuzz is about,.

you can email me for an unoficial AMIGA DvD case which i have made , i can send u the pictures , but u must print it... , why we did this?? well i hate that it had only a pc cover and a blank cd-r case... so i made a 3 cd holder and a dvd case for it..and use the magnificent cover we made

also an MESSAGE over this board is ok, you choose...if u want then i will send.

[Mikey_C]

Navvie Wrote:

Who knows, maybe Freespace and Quake2 got such good reviews in Total Amiga because the guy who did it (I don't read it so...) was worried Hyperion might not send anymore games his way if he wrote bad things about them.

Who knows, maybe his personal opinion of Hyperion biased his review, or maybe he just wanted to give it a good review because Hyperion are one of the few companies still doing something for the Amiga.

Wow! talk about ignorant. If you would take your head out of the clouds for a minute, you'd realise what you have just done is slur one of the finest, impartial, Amiga Magazines, to have ever graced this planet.

Total Amiga Magazine, Doesn't do "Favours" nor is it afraid to put a few noses out of joint when necessary. And when I mean independant, I mean independant. The Latest issue (no.15) not only carries News about Morphos in the news pages. but also carries a "4" Page review of Pegasos/Morphos system. The verdict? "Pretty Good!"

Of course you dare not engage brain before typing something. Typical from a man who slagged of Amiga Quake II, without seeing the updated  version. (which considering the system it runs on, is fast and smooth. Yes it is playable)

But then I am informed that you are the very same person who posted (illegally) on your website, an internal Hyperion Quake II beta. Which must have resulted in Hyprion getting a bit annoyed with you. Hence your clear Anti-Hyperion post.

It's so easy to taint people isn't it? Total Amiga Magazine is put together by volunteers, we devote our own spare time and energy to producing one heck of a magazine each issue (No one gets paid). That means we are contributing, something positive to both the Amiga and Pegasos community.

Your claims are vile and disgusting. Do something positive for the community, get lost.

Mikey C
Total Amiga Magazine contributor.

[lempkee]

mikey_C: personal attacking....huff..

anyway i agree that total amiga is unbiased,nice mag indeed.

covers pegasos and amiga properly, hopefully it will keep that as a main thing in the future also.

[Mikey_C]

lempkee wrote on 2003/7/20 19:56:47

mikey_C: personal attacking....huff..

Yes I know, I'm not proud of the fact, but if you know how much effort, myself and more importantly, everyone else puts into Total Amiga Magazine, you'd be fuming too. :-(

It's very hard to increase circulation, in a virtually dead market. Yet myself and the others at Total Amiga Magazine try hard. Currently we print in the order of 600 odd copies every issue. We are trying to get to 1000 copies per issue, just so that we can go to a better more effective print method.

Believe me it hasn't been easy trying to raise circulation, but we are slowly doing it.

The last thing we want is some ignorant comments being posted around, with no substance whatsoever. :-(

[Kronos]

@Mikey_C

Maybe you should read the GPL and it's explainations before you
use the term "illegal" .....

The issue is so much in the "grey" that anyone shouldn't start acussing anybody about it.

I A.org the right place to pst criticism on Amiga(related) products ?

If not here, where else ?

And it's not unusal for Hyperion to blame any probs with their games on the user, or the user's setup.

Right, or wrong, I can't tell (cos I never used any of those ports), but there clearly is a pattern.

[Mikey_C]

Nice try in side stepping my main point Kronos old bean.

That being the slur by Navvie on Total Amiga Magazine. Care to talk about that?

[Kronos]

@Mikey_C

How could I do that when I never had a copy of your magacine in my hands.

And it's not about side-stepping, but just pointing out that you should really think
twice of acussing anybody without checking the facts when you want to keep
up an impartial reputation ....

What Navie wrote wasn't nice, but lets be honest your 1st post in these thread was just
unwise invitation to what followed.

As an independent journalist, you should be the last one to act as white knight, and surely
the very last to try to accuse the original poster of having an agenda just to defend the
"other side".