68k library DVD for Natami MX

[vox]

Natami MX is coming to the almost production level.

Thomas Hirsch of the Natami Team has just manufactured the first Natami MX boards. This is the board revision that will be sold to the public, provided that the board bringup and hardware tests goes well.

Natami is a clone of the classic Amiga computer and its architecture. It is a 68k-based computer containing the classic Amiga chipset with enhancements and quite a few modern hardware features.

The MX board features:
-Altera FPGA from the Cyclone IV-series, containing the enhanced Amiga chipset "SuperAGA" as well as other system logic, and the brand new 68k CPU design "N68050"
-512 MB DDR2 SDRAM (onboard)
-1x PCI slot, expandable to 3x PCI with a PCI riser
-"SyncZorro" expansion slot, for adding f.e. a CPU card (68060 card will be available as an option for this slot)
-DVI-I port for 31kHz video (one can connect both analog VGA and digital DVI), scandoubling function for legacy modes
-15kHz RGB-output/input expansion slot (for optional 15kHz card)
-Realtek RTL8110 Gigabit Ethernet
-NEC USB2 controller and USB ports
-3,5 inch IDE port
-Internal Compact Flash connector (IDE)
-Kickstart flash memory
-Floppy connector (Amiga and PC drives both usable)
-Amiga serial port (although reduced to 9-pin)
-Amiga parallel port
-2x Amiga joystick/mouse port
-4x Cinch/RCA connectors for stereo sound output and input
-PS/2 keyboard/mouse ports (old bigbox Amiga keyboards are connectable)
-Classic Amiga LED:s along with scandoubler LED

Natami MX pictures:
http://www.natami.net/hardware.htm
Natami MX bringup thread:
http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=33366

Since its gonna be the strongest 68k so far, could we compile best software that could work on it, and help the team?

Same is for benefit of all emulator users, since everyone (even phones) can use UAE

Amiga OS 3.5 or OS 3.9
Boing Bags and extras
http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk/amiga/boingbag/
YAM 68k and many modern 68k software could run well
If possible, increase RAM to max

If you are really brave, AROS 68k
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/68k_support

Aminet, mass of things is still 68k
http://m68k.aminet.net/

If you really want to experiment, you could go ScalOS
http://scalos.noname.fr/
or download AmiKit on PC and take everything back to roots
http://amikit.amiga.sk/features.htm

DOPUS
http://www.gpsoft.com.au/amiga/Amiga...s/Amazing.html

http://www.linux-m68k.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_software

[Flashlab]

Let's first see if the Natami bring up will be successfull before making a lot of plans.

[vox]

Let's first see if the Natami bring up will be successfull before making a lot of plans.

OK, lets make best 68k library at one place, for all that can emulate 68k while wait for Natami!

What would be yout best OS and application choices if you had 060+ CPU power and 512mb RAM? What was Amigas 68k high end? Vista landscape processing, Morphing, early Lightwave, late Imagination, ImageFX, Alladin, Tornado?

[vox]

Let's first see if the Natami bring up will be successfull before making a lot of plans.

Dont forget any PC can emulate AmigaOS using Amikit and OS 3.5/OS 3.9CD
http://amikit.amiga.sk/

And your high end PC becomes high end Amiga without CUSA/Amiga Inc tax

With such DVD on sale (and all royalties paid to the authors) ex Amiga companies would have some Amiga revenue (and may be interested to make some AmigaOS comeback with 1 title) and users worldwide would get new Amiga feeling: Amiga without limits.

[vox]

OK, lets make best 68k library at one place, for all that can emulate 68k while wait for Natami!

What would be yout best OS and application choices if you had 060+ CPU power and 512mb RAM? What was Amigas 68k high end? Vista landscape processing, Morphing, early Lightwave, late Imagination, ImageFX, Alladin, Tornado?

Late Imagine, Real 3D, any more heavyweight champs?

[vox]

Also, it could be good to have all 68k improvements in kind of Better WB 2.0
http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm

[mongo]

http://www.linux-m68k.org/

I'm pretty sure the N68050 doesn't have an MMU, so no Linux.

[desiv]

I'm pretty sure the N68050 doesn't have an MMU, so no Linux.

You don't "need" an MMU for Linux.
There are ports for embedded systems generally that don't require an MMU.

That being said, I love Linux.
I'm a Linux admin at work (which means I spend most of my day fixing Windows servers), but I plan on running AmigaOS on 68k..  

desiv

[vox]

I'm pretty sure the N68050 doesn't have an MMU, so no Linux.

Could MMU be emulated? Its FPGA. Or doesn any 68k Linux that works without MMU exists?

[vox]

You don't "need" an MMU for Linux.
There are ports for embedded systems generally that don't require an MMU.

That being said, I love Linux.
I'm a Linux admin at work (which means I spend most of my day fixing Windows servers), but I plan on running AmigaOS on 68k..  

desiv

I would kindly ask you if you have any ideas how to increase support of SAM and Pegasos and AmigaOne boards in PPC LInux distros?

[desiv]

I would kindly ask you if you have any ideas how to increase support of SAM and Pegasos and AmigaOne boards in PPC LInux distros?

It's already in process.
There are PPC Linux ports.  

There are also already projects for these:
For AmigaOne Linux:
http://amigaone-linux.sourceforge.net/
And SAM:
http://elwoodb.free.fr/articles/Sam440/
And PegaSOS:
http://powernico.free.fr/linux/linux_install.html

And I'm a Linux admin, not a kernel hacker.  There's a difference.
It means I CAN write some code, but you REALLY don't want to run it ...anywhere..  :roflmao:

But there are people more qualified than I working on it..

desiv
(I'm more a Linux in the Datacenter kind of guy..)

[vox]

It's already in process.
There are PPC Linux ports.  

There are also already projects for these:
For AmigaOne Linux:
http://amigaone-linux.sourceforge.net/
And SAM:
http://elwoodb.free.fr/articles/Sam440/
And PegaSOS:
http://powernico.free.fr/linux/linux_install.html

And I'm a Linux admin, not a kernel hacker.  There's a difference.
It means I CAN write some code, but you REALLY don't want to run it ...anywhere..  :roflmao:

But there are people more qualified than I working on it..

desiv
(I'm more a Linux in the Datacenter kind of guy..)

OK, but how about informing all existing PPC Linux ports more boards exist as potential target? Mediating interst with Acube and whatever company that board is given for development or Amiga bounty of such kind with couple systems exist?

Yellow Dog Linux, latest Debian, fedora, open office, iceweasel ...

We need PPC Linux and its apps until such software is ported to AmigaoS 4 and MOS as well as is good to have Linux. Two last real alternatives together.

[commodorejohn]

Halle-freakin'-lujah! Now if it can only make it to "general availability for purchase" stage...

[vox]

A real dream of Classic users! Congratulations mates!
Now, it will be "north of 500 euros" for board.
And please, please build best Classic library, that we 68k emulation boys (phones, consoles, PCs, MOS, AmigaOS 4, AmiKit, WinUAE, Cloanto Amiga Forever)
can use! Above you see that you have resources to build BetterWB Monster Pack :-)
And there is AROS Kickstart too

[wawrzon]

what gives??? another os4 fan(atic) runs over from awnet to aorg?? vox, you know, cusa threads are allowed here like everywhere else, so no excuse for bitching about them. and what makes you so high about natami all the sudden? calm down. stay clear of that unnecessary enthusiasm and you are safe.