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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: kenny smith on December 29, 2016, 03:56:13 AM
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Do any one have a complete new or old program of this audition 4?, i have ben looking for this software for a long time now. Do any one have this?. I live in usa/sacramento ca. If no one have just part of that tell me what part do you have?, i need the dongle it go's into port 2 to use with the software. Please do help me please. I will give you my address if you can send it by mail to me. Please do help me everyone. I am running with a 68040 it is a gvp controller card amiga 2000 rev6.2 monther board. But i am also looking for memory for my 2091 card and to run newer hard drive that is 2.15 Gb drive and a 2.1Gb hard drive?
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Get rid of those clunky old hard drives and get yourself one of these:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1264
Or some other similar CF or SD solution
Also you should be running your drives off your GVP '040 board, they'll run faster that way. No need to keep the A2091 unless you need it for additional SCSI devices or you have need of 16-bit fast RAM.
With an '040 you can run Workbench 3.1 or 3.9 nicely, you might also look into one of those new open source Zorro II graphics cards or an Indivision ECS (for compatibility with modern monitors).
Plenty of options out there for upgrading your system, just be prepared to spend some time reading and researching, once you've determined exactly what you want to do with the system.
Also, funny thing, my uncle is also named Ken Smith, but he lives in Pennsylvania. Cheers! :banana:
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Mike...thanks for the Link on HD (this will be helpful for Phase 3 of my upgrade !)
Kenny --> I have a copy of Audition IV. I can run it without a dongle or key?
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Mike - once I order this SCSI to Micro SD Interface Adapter, I can use any these as a new HD setup?
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=micro+SD+card+
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I bought Audition 4 as an upgrade to the software that comes bundled with Perfect Sound. My copy does not need a dongle either. Please don't send a PM asking for a copy.
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Do any one have a complete new or old program of this audition 4?
Try one of these on the EAB file server: http://www.grandis.nu:81/eabsearch/search.php?_search_=1&search=audition&category_id=&exclude=&limit=
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first of all tell me how many hard drives can the gvp controller card work with?
i have a 2.1Gb hard drive that have a error in a part of the disks in the drive?
number 2 drive has about the same issue but i can't get the card to see the drive.
i do not have no program that can see the issue in the hard drive.
can any one give me any ideas of where or what to do with this?
See i am in the sacramento amiga computer club and i have a job of checking out over 5000 floppy disks and i can't do my job if i can't get the hard drive to work right. I am useing 3.1 so. And i have a 68040 gvp controller card.
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Kenny,
I think it's great your're posting after all these years...
I also thought, SACC (George) fixed the GVP card at the last meeting.
I also remember setting up a HDTools for the gvp scsi controller on the 040 card.
I also remember the drives had issues...?
What happened?
Either way just bring your 2000 setup to the Jan (SACC Business )meeting
and we will try again.
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Most SCSI controllers can support up to seven devices. However if your existing disks already have errors you'd probably be better off to replace with one of the many CF or SD solutions, instead.
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+1 on Oldsmobile_Mike's comments. The SCSI2SD (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1264) solution would seem a good starting point.
If you have read/write errors on multiple drives like this, it suggests a SCSI termination (http://amiga.serveftp.net/A3000_HardwareGuide/scsi.html) problem.
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Most certainly, do NOT DEPEND ON HARD DRIVES.
The solid state technology is here. Use it. Some of this stuff should be good for storing records for over a century, more so on SD cards than USB.
Sooner or later, the drives with moving parts will stop spinning. Friction. For a 2 gig drive to have lasted is a damn fine innings, but it's time is near, by the sound of it.
Either that or the terminator is loose, but you get my drift - backup to solid state tech, and run from different solid state tech, and your Amiga is a LOT more reliable. And should stay that way a lot longer too.
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Not necessarily true. In fact given solid state hardware has limited times it can be written to, I'm more inclined to trust hard drives for important, long term back ups.
They're also safer when it comes to recovering data when things go bad.
With solid state there's the risk of corrupt media meaning data is gone for good. With magnetic media there's more you can do should things go bad.
There's also the fact that controllers are limiting speed on the Amiga, so there's little performance to gain.
Ironically, despite this I actually use solid state hardware in my Amiga. I don't trust it like I do a magnetic hard drive though. Had just as many SD/cf cards die on me (and as a result lost everything with no way to recover) as I have "traditional" drives, despite the fact the medium has been in use for a competitively short length of time. I was also able to recover a decent chunk of data from magnetic drives that have died. (Been pretty lucky though that in the 30 or so years I've been using them I've only lost 4 in total. 2 HDDs, 2 ssds).
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Not necessarily true. In fact given solid state hardware limited times it can be written to, I'm more inclined to trust hard drives for important back ups.
They're also safer when it comes to recovering data when things go bad.
With solid state there's the risk of corrupt media meaning data is gone for good. With magnetic media there's more you can do should things go bad.
There's also the fact that controllers are limiting speed on the Amiga, so there's little performance to gain.
Well, I disagree. For two main reasons. First, you can write protect an SD card. Second, SD cards do not have issues with local magnetic fields, or earthquakes, which is kind of of an issue if you live in certain parts of the world like Sacramento.
It's true that SD cards won't work to full speed connected to most Amigas, and the actual speed you can get get is throttled badly with some SCSI stuff because it's limited to asynchronous mode. To about 2.5 MB/S.
You can get maybe 16 and some out of some arrangements on IDE, and I think the ceiling is about 20 MB/S. Maybe some ultra fast and wide arrangements can go faster again, but I think there's a limit to the throughput of any sort of native Amiga interface. More so on GVP, maybe, but it's not the worst either. I've no idea what the OP's machine is really like, from the post anyway.
How well the Amiga controller handles solid-state storage is an issue. That's true.
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I've heard of a few Amiga users getting 30-40MB/s with some of the ultra-rare and pricey controllers. 5-10 is probably closer to the theoretical limit for the "average joe", and much less for most GVP hardware. OP states that he has "a GVP controller", but no actual details such as the model number or ROM version.
In any case, throughput maximums for GVP hardware are a quantifiable number, all published here:
http://babel.de/amiga.html
Enjoy! :)
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I've heard of a few Amiga users getting 30-40MB/s with some of the ultra-rare and pricey controllers. 5-10 is probably closer to the theoretical limit for the "average joe", and much less for most GVP hardware. OP states that he has "a GVP controller", but no actual details such as the model number or ROM version.
In any case, throughput maximums for GVP hardware are a quantifiable number, all published here:
http://babel.de/amiga.html
Enjoy! :)
Yeah, I'm kind of limited on controller speed. Got a choice of either Squirrel into A1200 or A570 into an A500. They're both kind of "meh". 16 bit access, so I'll be transfer limited at the lower end. Both are vanilla anyway, and need a little attention.
Until I maybe get get a Terriblefile A500 accelerator built, with a working IDE port. That might go faster than either SCSI option, with regard to solid state media. We'll see how that pans out.
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To this person who saw my posting, the hard drive you are talking about is only 1/2" tell or 3/4". It is a scsi 2 hard drive. it is a western digital hard drive 2.1 Gb in size.
Get rid of those clunky old hard drives and get yourself one of these:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1264
Or some other similar CF or SD solution
Also you should be running your drives off your GVP '040 board, they'll run faster that way. No need to keep the A2091 unless you need it for additional SCSI devices or you have need of 16-bit fast RAM.
With an '040 you can run Workbench 3.1 or 3.9 nicely, you might also look into one of those new open source Zorro II graphics cards or an Indivision ECS (for compatibility with modern monitors).
Plenty of options out there for upgrading your system, just be prepared to spend some time reading and researching, once you've determined exactly what you want to do with the system.
Also, funny thing, my uncle is also named Ken Smith, but he lives in Pennsylvania. Cheers! :banana:
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To this person who saw my posting, the hard drive you are talking about is only 1/2" tell or 3/4". It is a scsi 2 hard drive. it is a western digital hard drive 2.1 Gb in size.
What he's advising you to do is get an extra interface that can plug into the SCSI ribbon cable, alongside your existing hard drives, to mount an SD card into, for use as a drive.
You might need a different SCSI ribbon cable with extra connectors, but it should work fine alongside your existing drives - you can have up to 7 devices on a SCSI bus system, be they drives, or scanners, or even printers. Or even controllers plugged into different computers, if you want a very local, pretty local fast file transfer. The last one is really a stop gap measure, but can sometimes work between Amigas, even if they have different kinds of SCSI controllers.
You don't really need to put memory on the GVP 2091 SCSI controller card (or a Commodore A2091 either) if you are running a 68040 - the system should work best if the 68040 has the memory to it. GVP did do 68040 cards with onboard SCSI, and they go a lot faster than either versions of the A2091. They also did A4000 only accelerators, and their cards can fit most types of Amiga that came with a floppy, one way or another.
How wide is the SCSI cables? 50 connections, sort of a good 2-3 inches across is typical for a cable plugged into into a GVP. Although your drives might be connected to a SCSI controller somehow wired to the 68040, but it doesn't sound like it in your case. Most GVP cards are just SCSI controllers. Some are both SCSI and 68040.
The nice thing about SD cards is, you can copy files to them to backup your hard drives. And you can use them AS hard drives, only they use much less power, so you actually save money from using them compared to hard drives, in the long run.
Now, you can't quite swap them SD cards straight out of a SCSI adaptor. But you should be able to hot plug them in OK, to such a connection.
And if you setup the adaptor right, you can plug different cards into the same place, from outside of the machine. Easier on a big box Amiga. But it can be done.
The really nice thing about SD cards is, you can write protect them, just like floppies.
Pain in the ass to setup in the first place, but worth it.
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Could a mod merge these 2 threads please?
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71799
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@Pat the Cat
done. :)
-- eliyahu
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I do want a copy of this software If any one do have a copy of audition 4 software and you please try to send it to my address that you see here Please
Kenny Smith
10460 EL Mercado Dr apt 67
Rancho Cordova California 95670 USA.
I have a book of the software but i don't have the software. Please do try to help me any one out there on this website.
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Hey kenny,
good to hear from you on line again..
I thought we fixed this 2000 issue of the 2091 and gvp 040 card with memory and scsi device.? (at the jan 2018 meeting)
I Remember we pulled the 2091 and made sure the gvp memory was working and gave you the name of the scsi controller.
I also remember we setup the hard drive as the booting drive, and everything was working as we left the meeting.
sorry, I don't have this software
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Hi Kenny, From Wexford, In Ireland,
I have a 2 disk .adf version of the programme you are looking for. I f you have an email address your prepared to share, I can email them to you?.
Cheers
Lazerus
I do want a copy of this software If any one do have a copy of audition 4 software and you please try to send it to my address that you see here Please
Kenny Smith
10460 EL Mercado Dr apt 67
Rancho Cordova California 95670 USA.
I have a book of the software but i don't have the software. Please do try to help me any one out there on this website.