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Operating System Specific Discussions => AROS Research Operating System => Topic started by: TomJ on July 07, 2012, 06:05:22 AM
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What is your opinion of Aros?
What is the newest version you have tried?
What systems have you installed it on and how did it perform?
I myself have tried it from time to time, but am impressed by 1.4.2 though it did not work well in my Toshiba it worked rather well in a dell inspirion 6000 mounted on a usb drive.
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What is your opinion of Aros?
What is the newest version you have tried?
What systems have you installed it on and how did it perform?
I myself have tried it from time to time, but am impressed by 1.4.2 though it did not work well in my Toshiba it worked rather well in a dell inspirion 6000 mounted on a usb drive.
Hi,
I like AROS, basically because it does not need an old obsolete MAC to run. Right now it has difficulty with a lot of PC machines, so make sure it you are going to use it, look at the machines specs, and go with that.
I am using ICAROS Broadway, and I lke it when I use it. I just can't hook up to the internet with it, because Toshiba, requires special drivers for its internet card.
I also tried it on a 6 core AMD machine, last night, and it didn't even load in. Tried it on an XFX quad core and same results.
THATS WHY I SAID READ THE SPECS OF THE MACHINE IT RUN ON AND GET THAT.
smerf
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I like AROS, basically because it does not need an old obsolete MAC to run.
It just needs an old, obsolete PC instead.
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It just needs an old, obsolete PC instead.
Or a new PC (or an Amiga or an Amiga Emulator or a Raspberry Pi)... You get the picture :)
I'm biased as I've been involved with AROS since 1999, but AROS68k is for rumming your old apps, and AROS on whatever modern hardware you have for running your new apps... How awesome is that? X
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Still far too picky about what hardware it requires for my tastes. I tried it again recently on an older machine and still had issues with it. I guess this could be steered around by using the hosted version, but I'm not big on virtual OS'es.
Ended up turning the machine back into an Amithlon rig and likely will leave it like that. If I'm going to have to put together a bunch of old hardware, I might as well be doing it for an Amithlon machine.
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I've posted this many times, does anyone remember the earlier linux days? Back then you had to choose from specific lists of hardware (sound cards, video cards network cards) because only so many had drivers written for them.
In short, you really had to tailor the hardware in the machine you wanted to use to what was supported to avoid alot of hair pulling. If you took the time to use supported hardware, you had a pleasant experience.
Aros is much the same at this time because they can't support every video card/chipset, soundcard or sound chip set/network card/chipset.
You can use just about any computer, so long as you use a supported video, lan and sound card. I am now using (I think) an fx550, sblive and intel 100 network card in a 3.4ghz pc with 4 gigs ram. Its a very snappy and slick experience with this setup.
Most of my time is spent on linux these days, but I still keep watching aros develop. Its come so far since I started using it... Been playing with it since right after the first native floppy boot disk became available. Now with the distros available each with lots of software, its becoming really awesome.
I would like to learn to program some demo scene style demos for AROS eventually, but mostly I just use it for fun atm.
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Still today, linux hosted is the only way to get it running on most hardware. I have several machines that won't boot the native version, and precisely, the machines i have most interest in, are the ones who won't run it, so i have tu run it hosted. So telling that native works on all hardware old and new is false.
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I'm currently loving AspireOS on my Samsung netbook:knuddel:..nothing like having my Amiga fix on my couch :pint:check out http://www.aspireos.com for compatible models before installing it.
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It just needs an old, obsolete PC instead.
Yeah, but who actually keeps one. People keep old obsolete C64's, Atari's, Mac's, and even Radio Shacks Cocoa's, but who keeps an old PC.
Not I says the blind smerf.
smerf
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Or a new PC (or an Amiga or an Amiga Emulator or a Raspberry Pi)... You get the picture :)
I'm biased as I've been involved with AROS since 1999, but AROS68k is for rumming your old apps, and AROS on whatever modern hardware you have for running your new apps... How awesome is that? X
What exactly new machine are you running it on. I have tried all the old goodies, like Packard Bell, Gateway, HP's, and even new homebuilt. If it doesn't hook up to the internet, then I give it look and put away. Internet use is a must today, if I have to fight to hook up to the internet, then I lose interest right away.
MorphOS hooked right up, AROS needs a list of network cards that work with it, names please, rtl wtf, is really useless, at least to me, I need facts, like netgear, linksys and model number.
I am to lazy to look through network card specs, as are most people. KISS (keep it simple stupid) is one of my favorite sayings especially if you want people to use it.
smerf
smerf
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Just run it in Fusion or Virtualbox. AROS is quite happy in a VM. Frankly I see no point in wanting a separate machine to run an OS. Put all your money in one nice machine and run all your OSs on it. I have a MacPro, I can run Lion hosting Windows 7, AROS and Linux in VMs without breaking a sweat.
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Yeah, but who actually keeps one. People keep old obsolete C64's, Atari's, Mac's, and even Radio Shacks Cocoa's, but who keeps an old PC.
I do. I have got an old Pentium 90 running Windows 95. It still works great and I used to play some classics on it. You can run even old version of Windows Messenger or Internet Explorer on it.
Anyway, back to topic. I tried AROS (icaros 1.3.3 ?) in VirtualPC some months ago. It boots fast but my overall experience was that it needs work. Wanderer was quite basic, Zune is quite basic, the gfx has strong retro touch on it, window decorations cant be changed without reboot. It could be much better if someone finished those small things. It wasnt bad but too much tinkering to my taste.
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What exactly new machine are you running it on. I have tried all the old goodies, like Packard Bell, Gateway, HP's, and even new homebuilt. If it doesn't hook up to the internet, then I give it look and put away. Internet use is a must today, if I have to fight to hook up to the internet, then I lose interest right away.
MorphOS hooked right up, AROS needs a list of network cards that work with it, names please, rtl wtf, is really useless, at least to me, I need facts, like netgear, linksys and model number.
I am to lazy to look through network card specs, as are most people. KISS (keep it simple stupid) is one of my favorite sayings especially if you want people to use it.
smerf
smerf
My old obsolete AROS box is a Home made ASUS MA7485-M Motherboard with an AMD T1055(built originally in 2010). Everything except the IGP is supported. :P
here's the AROS HCL list tho.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_support
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My old obsolete AROS box is a Home made ASUS MA7485-M Motherboard with an AMD T1055(built originally in 2010). Everything except the IGP is supported. :P
here's the AROS HCL list tho.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_support
Hi,
Thats why I like AROS, and support it more than MorphOS, even an old obsolete PC board is better than a 12 year old Mac.
Amy how don't want to start any arguments on which is the better OS, Will try to reload broadway again (hopefully icaros is the same as aros). If not any suggestions will be welcome.
Thanks for the help,
will go up in the attic and see if I can find an old network card and soundblaster, haven't had to much problem with graphics, the radeon I have supports a lot of cards.
forgot to put in: Just joking about your system, nice.
smerf
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I have the Icaros Desktop (v.1.4.2) distribution of AROS on a Dell Optiplex GX280 with a 3.2 GHz Hyper-threading P4 processor, 2 GB RAM, and 80 GB harddrive. I got a 3Com 3c905c 10/100 NIC and NVidia 8400 GS PCI-E 256 MB video card. For audio, I just used the systems integrated AC97 sound device. Everything works flawlessly. The new distributions are becoming very useable, especially with the new OWB internet browser. It even works with Google docs (word processor, spreadsheet, etc...). Also, its bundled media players play just about all the media I need. Printing capability (PostScript) has recently been added though program support still needs to be ramped up. It comes with a lot of games and network tools. I like it a lot.
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Personally I like it for the games and emulators. It gives me an ever stabilizing Amiga esque environment to run my games in, and boy are there a great many ports, some old school some fairly new school. So if it were not for the developers and their willingness to port the projects we request, then I would not be using it.
Reason being is that regardless if the fact that the graphics drivers are capable of running things like DOOM 3, they still lack majorly in basic usability.
Further more the OS itself is not quite up to par with OS 3.9 standards, which despite my love for games, should be a top priority! Copy's is nice and all, but it should not need to be used as a crutch because developers want to focus want prioritize other aspects before basic OS usability.
Likewise there really are not too many day to day use type apps that AROS has, and of those it dies have many of them are very limited to their commercial counter parts on other OS', classic Amiga included.
Now you might suggest UAE as a solution but honestly I can't say my experiences with UAE have been anywhere as fluid and Amiga like as running apps on a real Amiga, Amithlon, or MorphOS (which does happen to be very polished under the hood).
I think with the Magellan II project that hope is on the way, and I'm sure that the graphics drivers may some day be free of all the full screen and Artifacting bugs that have plagued it for so long, and eventually it will catch up with OS 3.9 (yes it has surpassed it in some ways sure), and eventually web MorphOS, but until then...
It's just my quirky Amiga like gaming machine and I do love it for that! :)
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It does have the advantage that being open source, it can never be taken away from the users. I like their bounty system too.
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Very true. Hopefully it'll never die and will only continue to get better!
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Copy's is nice and all, but it should not need to be used as a crutch because developers want to focus want prioritize other aspects before basic OS usability.
Sorry, I don't understand.
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Yeah, but who actually keeps one. People keep old obsolete C64's, Atari's, Mac's, and even Radio Shacks Cocoa's, but who keeps an old PC.
Not I says the blind smerf.
smerf
smerf actually has a valid point here.
I've got an old Coco3 that I've had since it was new (and I recently hunted down an Atari 130XE), but old PCs really don't have much appeal.
So when I wanted to try AROS, I had to go out and search for some compatible parts. I wound up using a Barton cored Athlon XP 3000+ in a KT400 motherboard with an Nvidia 7600GT video card.
I'm sure I could have used newer components, but these are pretty well supported.
BTW - I will throw AROS fans this bone, at its current rate of development AROS could wind up being the best NG OS available in the near future.
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Sorry, I don't understand.
Copy = Dopus
Damn iPod. :)
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Iggy: Give it five or ten years, and I think you will be right.
Five if they refocus their priorities to making the OS capable of doing everything OS 3.9 can (at the very least) and getting those graphics driver issues resolved.
Ten if they focus on "neat hacks" to get by and impress, only to have to go back and flesh out bugs for the sake of stability and compatability at a later date.
Either way, if the momentum does not die, AROS is here to stay and will only get better so long as the spirit of Amiga is kept at hand.
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Very true. Hopefully it'll never die and will only continue to get better!
Open source projects never die. Just layer of dust covering the sources is getting thicker and thicker...
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Krashan, with all die respect, i Admit in Last few Weeks activity on aros Faded Down a Bit, but what New developers did MOS attract ever Since? Because aros did.. And quite active..
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AROS is a great effort and it's usability rises every day. I find myself longing for the Intel version of AROS to implement an Amithlon style virtual CPU. I keep old Amigas around but I don't really keep old PCs. I do wish AROS had better hardware support but that will come in time.
I think there should probably be a pared down floppy version of the Wanderer to replace Workbench 3.1. Last I time I tried booting AROS 68K on my A1200, it required me to have a CD rom hooked up. Which can be troublesome with a stock case, especially now since I have an indivision mk2 taking up the space of the output area.
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AROS is a great effort and it's usability rises every day. I find myself longing for the Intel version of AROS to implement an Amithlon style virtual CPU. I keep old Amigas around but I don't really keep old PCs. I do wish AROS had better hardware support but that will come in time.
I think there should probably be a pared down floppy version of the Wanderer to replace Workbench 3.1. Last I time I tried booting AROS 68K on my A1200, it required me to have a CD rom hooked up. Which can be troublesome with a stock case, especially now since I have an indivision mk2 taking up the space of the output area.
Moggen's Emumiga was a virtual 68k for AROS that would run 68k apps directly on the native OS... But he seems to have gone offline :-/
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What is your opinion of Aros?
What is the newest version you have tried?
What systems have you installed it on and how did it perform?
I love it. It's my favorite Operating System.
The latest version I tried was Icaros 1.4.3.
I have it installed on my Athlon xII system. It works great in vesa mode, but it crashes once in a while. I got hardware acceleration to work (6200gs), but it crashes when ever I run more than one application, so I'm stuck with vesa mode until they fix it.