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Offline kolla

Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2018, 10:49:43 PM »
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On the Workbench 3.1 you get a Commodore CD Filesystem.


It comes with lots of issues though, you may want to use cachecdfs instead or simply wait for OS 3.1.4.
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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2018, 08:49:36 AM »
I never knew they did not co me with CDROM as standard. I guess that was the thing people did back then was to add a CDrom drive. Which is why all the photos I have seen have all had CDROM drives.
 

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2018, 08:53:05 AM »
Here it is A4000 no CDROM drives oh my god look at them prices.
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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2018, 06:24:42 PM »
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Doesn't help, does it? You need something on floppy disk which boots the computer and has CD drivers.

All you need is on the 3.5 CD, but without CD drivers you cannot read it.

BTW, 3.1 floppies don't help, either. You can boot the Amiga and install OS 3.1, but it does not have CD drivers. You also need IDEfix software or something similar to recognise the CD drive.

Unless the CD drive is a SCSI drive connected to a SCSI controller, probably on an accelerator. Then the CD drive is recognised and you can use the CD0 driver which comes with the 3.1 floppies.

Or in case the accelerator is a CyberstormPPC or MK3, then you might be able to boot from the SCSI CD drive by setting the relevant options in the firmware menu.

Actually os3.1 floppy set has cd drivers(and its broken on 3.0) and such,but they only work with scsi cdroms,and the 4000 ironically has only ide. check for cd.device in L: and cd0 icon in storage
 

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2018, 06:19:50 AM »
@ OP

You can also get your hands on AsimCDFS on floppy, this along with the 3.1 disks will allow you setup the 4k to be able to install 3.9 *yes its a PITA.

Like the SACC guy said if you have the emergency floppy (sounds like you dont) it would be easy to install 3.9 straight away
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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2018, 03:50:00 PM »
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Purple screen is only shown if there is no bootable device.   so a HD partition with bootable flag ticked should give you a CLI..

you need to start with your installdisk.   you cannot boot on CD on An Amiga,.

purple kickstart screen is displayed about a long wait more than a minute.
 

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2018, 03:51:25 PM »
the cdrom is attached to a Golem FastSCSI/IDE controller
 

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2018, 09:48:43 PM »
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Hi,

I've got my first Amiga 4000, and workbench was installed but i've messed up partitions and won't boot workbench anymore.

I've got a original OS 3.5 CD here.

How to install Amiga OS?

Should a A4000 also show the kickrom(purple screen)?

thank you.
Sorry, Thought the crowd chased you away.

Yes, all Amigas come up with the load workbench screen. The A1000 is the one that starts with a kickstart screen. This is because DOS (disk Op sys)
That can be the hard drive, but you said you messed that up..

So you need to use a floppy disk (3.1) to load workbench. Good news, this lets you fix your hard drive issues.

When you got your A4000, Did you get the six floppy disk set?

there's other ways too, But to help, we need info on what you have!
 

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2018, 10:45:20 PM »
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Doesn't help, does it? You need something on floppy disk which boots the computer and has CD drivers.


Didnt OS3.9 (and 3.5) ship with a boot floppy that has the cd drivers to mount the cd and install the OS?
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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2018, 11:06:32 PM »
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Didnt OS3.9 (and 3.5) ship with a boot floppy that has the cd drivers to mount the cd and install the OS?
Not to my knowledge.
But before installing, making a a emergency boot disk was the first thing to do for both upgrades.
 

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2018, 12:40:11 AM »
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Didnt OS3.9 (and 3.5) ship with a boot floppy that has the cd drivers to mount the cd and install the OS?


No, it didn't. I bought both the 3.5 and 3.9 CD's and none of them came with a floppy.
 

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2018, 09:16:56 AM »
The emergency disk is hardware-dependent. There cannot be one disk which works on all Amiga models and expansions. You have to make your own which works on your hardware.

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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2018, 06:37:41 PM »
Yes, you are totally right (ofcourse). I was mistaken with AmigaOS 4.0, which did come with a boot disk.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2018, 07:11:28 PM »
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The emergency disk is hardware-dependent. There cannot be one disk which works on all Amiga models and expansions. You have to make your own which works on your hardware.


If you kludge it enough you can make one work.  For example I once got the ERD disk from my A2000 to work for installing 3.9 on my A500 by deleting all the P96 screenmode stuff, but in general, this is correct. :lol:
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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2018, 07:16:57 PM »
I made an OS3.9 emergency adf with fat95 and diskimage.device, quite convenient ;)
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Re: My first Amiga 4000, how to install Amiga OS?
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 14, 2018, 08:49:50 PM »
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I made an OS3.9 emergency adf with fat95 and diskimage.device, quite convenient ;)
All well and good.
This does not help the OP, he messed up his working system and doesn't appear to know how to fix it.

We can help, but it might be better if he goes back to the person who sold him the 4000 to get the "things" and info he needs to move forward.