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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2011, 11:49:40 PM »
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I'll just copy and paste my reply from the same thread that you copied and pasted your comment:


Beta or not, the delay has definitely made what is on offer better.

Hans

So Hans, considering you're involved with the RadeonHD 3D support, can you give us any estimation as to when there will be 3D support for those RadeonHD cards? Or are users desiring 3D support advised to get a Radeon 9250 instead?
 

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2011, 11:50:03 PM »
It's good that this is finally available. Quite a number of people have been waiting for this; people who don't mind that AmigaOS 4.1 for it is still in beta. Having one of these boards myself, I can say that this beta version is working well. Hopefully the on-board audio driver will be released soon.

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2011, 11:54:58 PM »
awesome news..thanks again ACube:banana::pint::banana:
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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2011, 11:57:27 PM »
Threads merged. I also realised I'd posted in the wrong place.

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2011, 11:58:05 PM »
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Uh oh. I thought the delay was there in order to make things working properly from the start? I guess we were wrong.


Piru is just soo concerned because he is such an AmigaOS optimist;)
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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2011, 12:03:23 AM »
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   Flex-ATX form factor (21.6 x 17 cm)
   8 layers PCB
   Applied Micro PPC460ex SoC – upto 1.15 Ghz
   optional maximum 2 GB DDR2 Ram – 200-pin SODIMM
   Silicon Motion SM502 embedded MoC (audio/video) max 64MB Gfx RAM
   Audio 5.1 Realtek ALC655 codec
   PCI-express 4x lanes slot (16x mechanical connector)
   PCI-express 1x lane slot (* check notes)
   PCI slot, 32 bit, 33 Mhz, 3.3V
   1x SATA2 port (* check notes)
   6x USB2 EHCI/OHCI ports + 1 USB 1.1 port
   1x 10/100/1000 Ethernet port (another 10/100/1000 Ethernet is optional)
   Lattice XP2 FPGA with 80 I/O pins expansion connector (connector is optional)
   UMTS/GSM module (optional requires add-on card)
   512 MB NAND Flash (optional)
   integrated SD card reader
   RTC clock
   Serial port, 8-wires
   I2C and SPI/I2C buses
   passive cooling
   U-Boot 2010.06


That's alot of stuff packed into a little board.
DDR2 + GBit Ether + PCIe = Win!

I don't know why everyone makes a big deal about Altivec.  Cell has more floating point power than 360 and even PS2 had more floating point power than the original Xbox and we see where the better games are, don't we?

I'm looking forward to the benchmarks!

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2011, 12:55:18 AM »
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So Hans, considering you're involved with the RadeonHD 3D support, can you give us any estimation as to when there will be 3D support for those RadeonHD cards? Or are users desiring 3D support advised to get a Radeon 9250 instead?


Sorry, no estimate. This depends on so many variables that any estimate given right now would be very unreliable.

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2011, 01:05:51 AM »
Great!!! :pint:

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2011, 02:30:25 AM »
Thanks for the news. :D
 

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2011, 02:49:54 AM »
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I don't know why everyone makes a big deal about Altivec.  Cell has more floating point power than 360 and even PS2 had more floating point power than the original Xbox and we see where the better games are, don't we?


That doesn't really make sense. Altivec is just one variant of SIMD/Vector processing or whatever you want to call it. Probably every game written on every console you mentioned uses vector processing to speed up execution, usually significantly.
 

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2011, 02:54:57 AM »
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That doesn't really make sense. Altivec is just one variant of SIMD/Vector processing or whatever you want to call it. Probably every game written on every console you mentioned uses vector processing to speed up execution, usually significantly.


Probably but not everything is appropriate for such things.  If Altivec was the be-all-end-all of application performance, don't you think all chips would have it...  Fast branch prediction and OoO execution are more generally useful...  Even the GC and Wii have SIMD...can you explain to me how that will make your email download faster?  Surfing?  How does your favorite text editor benefit from SIMD?  It doesn't.  SIMD has niche use.

Let's see some real-world benchmarks before denouncing the SAM460...  The G5 Macs only got up to DDR2-533, iirc.  If this board can support DDR2-800 and higher, then real-world benchmarks will get interesting...
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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2011, 03:41:12 AM »
Quote from: lou_dias;609981
That's alot of stuff packed into a little board.
DDR2 + GBit Ether + PCIe = Win!
 
I don't know why everyone makes a big deal about Altivec. Cell has more floating point power than 360 and even PS2 had more floating point power than the original Xbox and we see where the better games are, don't we?
 
I'm looking forward to the benchmarks!
 
If I wasn't deep into my car hobby right now I'd be picking this up.

Don't forget that you CAN'T buy this board without AOS 4.1. That's part of why the price is as high as it is. Acube states that they will only sell the board w/o AOS4.1 to its 'industrial partners'.
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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2011, 06:18:55 AM »
Cool bananas eh?

Lets see... I have a SAM 667 a SAM 733 and a SAM 800... this of course would have been my next purchase...

But it looks like I'm waiting for something... at the end of the year I'll get one though... just want to have one of each...

only sensible...

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2011, 07:12:49 AM »
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I don't know why everyone makes a big deal about Altivec.

Because AltiVec makes it possible to write faster programs.

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Re: Sam460ex available with AmigaOS 4.1
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 28, 2011, 07:13:54 AM »
Excellent News!

Stops the trolls from saying they are holding it back for x1000 release. But i guess they already moved on to now moaning about how dare they release it before its ready. You can never please the trolls.

Simple answer to that, as a more end user not a beta tester I will simple wait until all drivers are finished for it, and would still like to hold out to see more news on x1000 price and availability, but its nice to have the option to buy it now.
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