From the busting out laughing department - Win Phone Team having a funeral for iPhone

[redrumloa]

I knew this looked familiar but could not place it till now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8

My head just exploded, thanks a lot :angry:

[redrumloa]

Nope, the MC Hammer visit was the most exciting, LOL!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq0xlVeRhAU

Oh lord, make the pain stop :nervous:

[redrumloa]

It does have a steeper battle with Android, not so much with iphone and IOS devices because Apple alienated a lot of it's developers (like Adobe) with restrictions that the most recently relaxed after getting a ton of bad press about it..

I had an HTC Incredible Droid phone for about a month and returned it. Horrible, completely horrible! I'm sticking with Blackberry for now, the others just seem like toys.

You aren't really surprised that Microsoft products get a luke-warm reception on an Amiga website? Just about everything will get a luke-warm reception here, Apple, Windows, Linux, OS4, MorphOS, AROS etc. If this is rolled out and it is a DROID and iPhone killer, it will get some respect.

[Franko]

Oh lord, make the pain stop :nervous:

Sorry... Can't take the pain away, cos Mr Hammer sez...

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[Pentad]

I thought I would chime in as well and say that I too am developing some projects for this platform.  I *LOVE* Visual Studio.   I teach it, I use it, I make a very nice living with it.  

Having programmed for the iPhone and Android, I think Microsoft has done a great job with their dev tools for Windows Phone 7.

XCode is very nice (though much different than VS in many ways) but I hate Objective-C.  I don't hate the iPhone, Apple, or XCode, just Objective-C.   I feel like I'm back in college programming and that was not fun.   I have a great deal of respect for the iPhone dev crowd (really, I do).

Android is basically Eclipse with a bolt on but its JAVA which I like better than Objective-C.  

Do I think Windows Phone 7 will set the world on fire?   I'm not sure.   The world runs on the perception of truth and Microsoft has a battle on that front.  Apple = Cool.  Android = Free.  Microsoft = Old World.   They really have to change that image and this 'funeral' stunt or whatever it was has to stop.

Crispin/Porter -an ad firm- said that Steve Ballmer came to them and stated he wanted to be cool like Apple (referring to Microsoft et al).   They told him it begins by not saying that you want to be cool.   I don't think Steve got it because he kept telling the media how he wants Microsoft to cool.  You can never be cool if you keep telling people you aren't.

I do think that Windows Phone 7 has a great shot in the business market because of Microsoft and the tools they are using.

Just my humble 2 cents,
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[LoadWB]

Apart from my landline/home phone, my only other form of communication with the outside world are two old beans tins and a really long piece of string...

I theorize you can get 300 baud over that setup.  All I need is a second acoustic coupler to perform my experiment.

[SysAdmin]

Windows Phone 7 will make hungry landfills everywhere very very happy.

[Pyromania]

Someone on Apple Insider said it best.

"Take the GUI from the failed Zune HD, take the failed Windows CE base used to build the failed Windows Mobile OS, take the failed Zune music service, and add in the failed proprietary Silverlight platform, and just for fun, lock your phones to the proprietary Windows OS and what do you get? A total failure.

The only thing they should be burying is anyone who had any say in Windows Phone Series 7 or whatever" it is called today.

[juan_fine]

How do you tell the moderators from the trolls? Sheesh

Someone on Apple Insider said it best.

"Take the GUI from the failed Zune HD, take the failed Windows CE base used to build the failed Windows Mobile OS, take the failed Zune music service, and add in the failed proprietary Silverlight platform, and just for fun, lock your phones to the proprietary Windows OS and what do you get? A total failure.

The only thing they should be burying is anyone who had any say in Windows Phone Series 7 or whatever" it is called today.

[bloodline]

I'm looking forward to Windows7 mobile series, but I'm not sure how it really fits into the modern Market. Apple and Google have got it pretty much sown up... Microsoft's big strength has always come from legacy app support... Without that they don't offer anything to the consumer...

And I know Objective-C looks horrible when you struggle with it for the first month... But once it clicks, you really will see why it is a rather elegant language give Obj-C a chance hahaha

[DonnyEMU]

Still a company that keeps 198 huge buildings in operation in just one city (not mentioning many others) can't be doing that bad.. They have in the past only had one funeral that I am aware of and it was for their own product (this current thing wasn't a funeral) and that was IE 6, which everyone wishes was NOT in use even after it's product lifecycle ended a few years ago..

A little homophobic huh? So you guys really think that is a guy in the pink dress?? LMAO...  Did you guys ever see the Michael Jackson video Thriller? I think you guys are just looking for something here.. I can assure you the "person" in the pink dress isn't a trannie and that's a costume).

By the way for the guy who is saying that stock has dipped, that has nothing to do with profitability for the most part in a company structured like microsoft..

I'd direct you guys here.. and I know you won't like it ;-)

http://techflash.com/seattle/2010/01/microsoft_windows_7_sales_fuel_record_revenue.html

here's an opinion from outside of seattle too..
http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/windows-7-powers-microsoft-to-record-profit-20100129-n2ct.html

[Belial6]

I disagree.  MS's strength hasn't come from legacy app support.  If it was, OS/2 might have been more popular.  MS's stregth has come from running on just any hardware with a manufacturer that wants to write drivers.  Of course, Android has taken that role in the phone market, so we are still left wondering what Windows7 has to bring to the table....

[DonnyEMU]

You are sure going to find out soon enough... I just got done with my dev eval phone and shipped it back.. I am back to my old iphone and withdrawl.. Our app may even revolutionize the device UI itself ;-)

[DonnyEMU]

Bloodline: I would disagree with you, I have been doing Amiga C/C++ since way before it was ever ANSIFIED (that's over 25 years I started back in '84 on a proto A1000)... I would just tell you in C# and with XAML/.NET I can do an app (the same app in about 1/4 of the time with the same functionality).

And this is way more elegant.. Of course it is managed code but that doesn't bother me one bit, especially since everything in most smart phones are asynchronously coded anyway..

I am looking at taking on porting mono and silverlight mono to AROS in fact so I can move the same apps I make in and out of browser for the Mac, PC and Windows Desktop and Linux (and x-box 360 via .net XNA) over to AROS in fact..

And with my app I am not afraid to say I'll be laughing all the way to the bank even if it only sells 1/4 of what an iPhone/Android app will (Which I am porting to with Monotouch and Monodroid already)..

[DonnyEMU]

As far as objective C I have been doing Objective-C since the NextStep boxes in 1993..

The same sad interface builder and NIB files are used today to do iphone apps. Nothing beats Expression Blend for Windows Phone's Video and animation drag and drop integration for the UI with it either even AppInventor..

If you guys want to really see how I feel about my experience with iPhone..

Check out my little slideshare.. 17,000 people have viewed it worldwide since July.. The fact is most of them agree with me..  I had wall street analysts and money people calling me for any opinion after this was published. Because I nailed the reality of it.. It's a comparable hello world.. if you can do the drag and drop video and sample data that Blend for Windows Phone can do and REST connectivity as quickly let me know..

We can have a race..

http://slidesha.re/95gJsv

The embeded URL for the video in the presentation is at..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMbpWz5r08

The reality of smartphone tools is you can't do this with anything else out there..

[Trev]

@Pyromania

I can't speak to Windows 7 Mobile specifically, but in general, Microsoft doesn't censor developers. I love my iPhone for what it is (and hate it for what it isn't, i.e. a reliable phone), but Apple's control over software distribution is scary stuff.

Software distribution in general is about to get even scarier thanks to Vernor v. Autodesk. Say goodbye to used software. Say goodbye to libraries. Hell, say goodbye to retail, period. If we take the ruling to its ultimate conclusion, all software developers will have to license software directly to end users, as wholesalers and retailers won't be allowed to transfer their copies. That's stupid, of course, so new software licenses will have to include specific language allowing wholesale and commercial resale, but not individual resale. I'm really not sure how that's going to work in practice.