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Offline Kin-HellTopic starter

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"http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« on: December 15, 2005, 07:54:21 AM »
I'm relatively new to "amiga.org" but not the Amiga Scene. I was using Amigas back in 1987 & have a couple of High Spec A4000's which I still use. Amiga-Hardware.com has been an immense help to me over the years, and calling in this morning at 07.35am, Their Web page says:

"Due to complaints the site is offline. It "may" return at some point, but with reduced contents."

Anyone know exactly why?

How can a database site like that get slated in such manner? It amazes me to think that any service the site actually  offered, was breaking any laws, anywhere!

Maybe it's just a systen error at their end, (here's hoping) or maybe just another Nail into the coffin perhaps, how sad. :getmad:

 
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2005, 08:15:21 AM »
Maybe they don't mean somebody has complained, but the server is suffering from a complaint? Like when people say they have a medical complaint?

I have never looked at that site, but I would be interested to know what happened!

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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 08:51:17 AM »
NOOooo... what happend, it was/is such a nice site. I can't see why anyone would be offended by anything the site had to offer.
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2005, 08:52:03 AM »
Yeah it is down.

What a bummer, what on that site could have offended any laws? I'm thinking there must be some evil EU directive or something  massively illogical behind this.

It didn't offer downloads of copyrighted material, it didn't reverse engineer anything, if anything it served as a good source of advertising old hardware and giving good info about obsurce things that pop up on eBay etc.
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2005, 08:53:21 AM »
I really hope Ian is gonna give us an answer soon about the why question ...
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2005, 08:53:24 AM »
Here there is a backup

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.amiga-hardware.com 8-)
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2005, 08:55:43 AM »
When I clock on the link and on a date I get something that looks a bit like the Big Book but when I click on some subjects I get often :

Failed Connection.

We're sorry. Your request failed to connect to our servers. We may be experiencing technical difficulties and suggest that you try again later.
See the FAQs for more info and help, or contact us.
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2005, 09:02:06 AM »
web.archive's backup sucks anyway... It's last snapshot is from 2004...
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2005, 09:32:56 AM »
Don´t know how many mails he got already but I have sent Ian a mail with a few questions and shall report when he writes back ...
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2005, 09:42:07 AM »
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??

web.archive's backup sucks anyway... It's last snapshot is from 2004...

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Amiga 3000D/CS MKII 060/128MB/22G HD/CDRW/PIV/Algor Pro/X-Surf 2
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Mirror
It sucks even more cos thats down for me too - 09.40am
I was on amiga-Hardware last night at just before 8pm so trying to check in this morning at 07.35 makes it a 12 hour slot.
Can anyone narrow it down at all?
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2005, 11:42:27 AM »
If this is a hosting problem, DiscreetFX would be glad to host the site for free if it is not too large. If someone is in contact with the site owner please let them know this. Then the site could return ASAP and never be down again.
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2005, 12:39:52 PM »
New text on http://www.amiga-hardware.com/


The Big Book of Amiga Hardware

Firstly, apologies for the previous message. It was written as a quick placeholder in the early hours of the morning and I needed to sleep. The site has been taken down because I received a copyright violation notice from the author of a driver. Perhaps it was foolish of me to offer such things for download. The site has always been non-profit, is ad-banner free and has cost me a lot in the 7 years it has been running in both time and money. It is also the product of hundreds of contributors who have taken the time and effort to send submissions. It's for these reasons that I would like the site to return, however I need to decide whether it's worth the risk and if so what alterations need to be made.

- Thanks, Ian.



I hope one driver author will not spoil everything for everyone else.

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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2005, 12:43:39 PM »
Perhaps he could add a "Make a donation for the dog" as Amiga.org already asks for a donation for the cat  :-)
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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2005, 01:04:45 PM »
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The site has been taken down because I received a copyright violation notice from the author of a driver.

That's pathetic. Surely drivers can only be used by people who own the hardware for which they are designed, which entitles them to use the driver anyway. What's the harm of offering it for download for people who have lost or damaged disks?

I hope the site won't go offline because of one short-sighted individual.

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Re: "http://www.amiga-hardware.com" is Down??
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2005, 01:23:11 PM »
If I was Ian I would simply take the driver out and make a note that the author complained about it being on the website. The site users could then draw their own conclusions about whether the author of the driver is being too anal or not (I don't know what the driver is and whether the hardware it applies to is for sale today)

It really is a pity that things like this happen. A lot of people contributed to that site and Ian has done a great job all along. It even encouraged me to make a few contributions, one of them just last week!
I hope the site comes back up and authors realise that this information is valuable to a community that has seen its support channels dwindle into almost nothingness over the years. If it wasn't for Amiga.org and BBOAH (and one or two other sites) I wouldn't have kept my Amiga and I wouldn't have bought the hardware I have acquired over the last year.
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