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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: SkidMajor on August 26, 2011, 03:29:36 PM
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Does anyone agree with my perverted 'booting' thoughts??:roflmao::griping:
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Nah... methinks you must be a bamstick or sumthink... :D
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You never get enough of fiddling to get that disk in.
Besides i really like the game over music on SOtB 2.
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1. bamstick. An unsavoury person. An *******. Shut it ya mad bamstick! ... 2. bamstick. Chiefly Scottish slang for a mad person, lunatic...
I agree! (:
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I find WHDLoad a lot more romantic than a Checksum Error. :D
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SOTB2, best in game platform music me thinks!
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I totally agree with you, there was something in the sound of the floppy drive reading each tracks and the wait before the game was loaded :)
Aftr many loading of the same game you could count the "grinding" motor sounds and know exactly when the game would show the startup screen hehehe
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I think wonderboy in monsterland made over 400 noises before it loaded... it just seems that WHDLoad takes the romance out of it, the noise the Amiga makes is just so exciting.... and changing disks.
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Maybe if floppies never failed, but the uncertainty of it all makes me lean towards WHDload.
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I always really liked floppies... Still do..
Now, I have whdload on my 1200 and for most of the games, I use that..
But I still like playing some of the 1 or 2 disk games (sometimes 3, but much less as the number increases..) from floppies..
The exception to that is Dragon's Lair.. Well, at least for demo purposes..
I love to play that from floppies from time to time, because I am still impressed with the way it streams from floppy while playing... ;-)
desiv
(At least I KNOW that I'm weird.. ;-)
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Listening to all them clicks and the heads grinding back and forward on some custom loader disks, disk swaps (bloody awful on games with 8 or 10 disks) then the old crash or lock up at the end as the disk failed to load (why did they never fail at the start of the load !!!) then nah... i aint used floppies for well over a decade now (other than converting them to WHDLoad or HD) and can honestly say it's one thing I DON'T miss on me Amigas... :)
It's the same with my C64s, tapes... nah... wait 15 minutes for a game to load only for the tape to continue going and a blank screen or a blinking curser with "LOAD ERROR: flashing away at you. For C64s everything is loaded in a few seconds from my MMC64 SD card adapter... :)
Yer awe nutcases if you still use floppies or masochists or you might be too miserable to buy an HD, me wonders... ;)
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Don't know about romantic... I wasn't THAT close to my Amiga. But it's definitely more nostalgic.
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Yer awe nutcases if you still use floppies...
Yes...
And your point is?? :roflmao:
desiv
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whdload with a slow load and emulated disk sound option would be novel...
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Yes...
And your point is?? :roflmao:
desiv
There is no point (as usual) I just like stating the bleedin obvious for no apparent reason (it's a bad habit of mine)... ;)
I like ddniUK's idea though... but could it also have random errors and crashes thrown in just to make it real authentic... :)
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We are human beings,we will only live for 75-80 some 90 or 100 years,since the time we had to load games through tape is long gone,and since we can use our time much better to do something more productive (you can load a game in 2 seconds and use the 5 minutes,to do something worthwhile),there is no need to play kings quest 5 on an amiga that can have harddrive and much ram from 2 floppies disk drives,and swap disks till devil comes and takes over amiga.inc.
I believe whdload solved many of our problems,to load one game that loads fasts and has no need to load again everytime you lose,or play larry 1 or some old games is good,but all decent and recent games on amiga,would not work from floppy well,they didnt on the 90ies why would we want that now?
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We are human beings,we will only live for 75-80 some 90 or 100 years,since the time we had to load games through tape is long gone,and since we can use our time much better to do something more productive (you can load a game in 2 seconds and use the 5 minutes,to do something worthwhile),there is no need to play kings quest 5 on an amiga that can have harddrive and much ram from 2 floppies disk drives,and swap disks till devil comes and takes over amiga.inc.
I believe whdload solved many of our problems,to load one game that loads fasts and has no need to load again everytime you lose,or play larry 1 or some old games is good,but all decent and recent games on amiga,would not work from floppy well,they didnt on the 90ies why would we want that now?
Wow... where do you live in some parts of Glasgow the average age of death for men is 56, Pollockshaws I think the area was, confirmed by WHO (World Health Organisation) just a few years ago... :(
Where I live if you make it to your 70's you are regarded as one of the ancient ones who must have been around since the dawn of time, the average age of death in my town Livingston is 66... :eek:
Gawd I'm 47 so I aint to much time left awaiting the NatAmi's arrival... :(
Think it's time to spend me life savings on something else while I've still got the chance... ;)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Life_Expectancy_2011_Estimates_CIA_World_Factbook.png
In greece and it is actualy from 77.5 to 80.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy
But i think no need to worry,if you exercise dont drink dont smoke and sleep early and have good doctors and with no disk swapping to lose your patience you can easily outperform those expectancy figures :)
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No, floppies truely suck and I'm extremely happy that I don't have to use them anymore. I don't even have a floppy drive in my A1200, instead I have a floppy terminator :D
We are human beings,we will only live for 75-80 some 90 or 100 years
Speak for yourself, I plan on living forever :D Oh, and don't forget that you can't prove everyone dies :D
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I will always prefer loading games from disk than WHD. To me the click from the drive when you insert a floppy is brilliant.
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I once started loading a c64 game from floppy on my c128. The idea was to show the kids how much fun it was.
By the time the game loaded they were nowhere to be found.
I really don't miss floppies at all...
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...and since we can use our time much better to do something more productive
2 points..
1: You don't HAVE to do nothing while it's loading..
2: Doing something productive.... in the context of loading a game???
3: (I know, I said 2; I lied).. Why be productive all the time?
Hmmm
:-)
desiv
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I like to stare at construction equipment in my spare time........
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Let's take this one along the path, for those who like the Amiga as a retro platform.
I like this game, but it's slow to load. Let's put it on a HD.
I like this game, but the graphics could be better, lets add colors and increase the resolution.
I like this game, but the sounds could be better, more channels and higher bitrates.
I like this game, but it could be faster, lets put it on a faster machine..
I like this game, but having a changing camera perspective would be great, lets use an FPS engine..
Hey, this looks like every other PC game nowadays, I wish I had my old Amiga.
;-)
desiv
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Hey, this looks like every other PC game nowadays, I wish I had my old Amiga.
I do, and floppies still suck :p
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Life_Expectancy_2011_Estimates_CIA_World_Factbook.png
In greece and it is actualy from 77.5 to 80.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy
But i think no need to worry,if you exercise dont drink dont smoke and sleep early and have good doctors and with no disk swapping to lose your patience you can easily outperform those expectancy figures :)
That wiki page is waaaaaay off the mark as far as Scotland goes... 80+ my aunties behind... :rolleyes:
I'll bet they got their numbers from the south of England to come up with that... ;)
Most folk I know (or did know rather) kick the bucket at around 56 to 58 if they were heavy drinkers and about 66 to 68 if they didn't drink and retired aged 65... :)
According to my doctors I should have been dead a looooong time ago but I hang around just to prove them wrong... :)
I don't drink but I do smoke at least 40 a day, never exercise, live on a typical Scottish healthy diet of super greasy soaked food, fish & chips, deep fried pizzas & mars bars, curries (Vindalloo) and pleny of sweets, crisps and fizzy juice... and I'm consistent 9 Stone 12 pounds... :)
The lack of exercise can be attributed mainly to WHDLoad & the SD card thingy for my C64... Simple reason being they load so quickly that I don't have the time to reach for a packet of fags to have smoke while waiting for stuff to load... :)
WHDLoad should carry a government health warning... :)
PS: I once saw a vegetable... at least I think it was a vegetable, could a have been a wee green alien instead... :)
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Compared to waiting for cassette tape based games to load, floppy disk was awesome.
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PS: I once saw a vegetable... at least I think it was a vegetable, could a have been a wee green alien instead... :)
Vegetables are good, eat your vegetables :)
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It's the same with my C64s, tapes... nah... wait 15 minutes for a game to load only for the tape to continue going and a blank screen or a blinking curser with "LOAD ERROR: flashing away at you.
What do you mean? Waiting for a C64 game to load is probably the best part of the game... :laughing:
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Fiddling around with floppies or other media is just part of the experience of any retro computer :)
At least, if you have the originals. If you're just downloading from the internet then floppies are a pain in the arse. :)
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No, hate floppies. I try to make floppy-less machines when possible.
Having said that I do think some of the noises floppies made were comical. Especially some cracked games that really get crankin and spitting.
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yeah floppies are cool, and I think we all love the sounds they make :) HOwever WHDLoad is awesome though I have lost a couple of saved games due to whdload somewhow corrupting them!
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And you behave the way you do? How embarassing.
To thread.. yeah floppies are cool, and I think we all love the sounds they make :) HOwever WHDLoad is awesome though I have lost a couple of saved games due to whdload somewhow corrupting them!
Hi Pathetic... :)
I aint embarrassed about nothing, so if your embarrassed on my behalf then you're just the soft little turd I always thought you were and still as thick as sh!te... ;)
Now bugger off and go play in the traffic... :)
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More OT, I do miss the old floppy noises and esp. the old HD noises. I remember the BBS I ran on my old A3000 - I could tell what area of the BBS people were using based on the noises. Fidonet crashmails used to have a very distinct sound, heh. Knew instantly when the mailer/mail tosser was working just off the HD noises. Now my SAM 440 BBS rig has a Patriot SSD in it, a silent PSU and no cooling fans at all, and no floppy and I sorta miss the drive and dialup modem sounds. :/
I don't miss the slow floppy speeds, and that's putting it mildly, heh.
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Duce
You are right I apologize to you. I should ignore that moron i'm only feeding into it.
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I am sorry, once again, Magnetic - if it seems as though I am just as bad as others in my treatment of you. It's no more right me doing this than the Franko hate fest that seems to go on, but man does it get frustrating, you know?
Super bright, super helpful people like yourself going on these wild tangents at any given chance when someone they dislike posts anything, it just gets old.
Nothing personal - just sorta gets when I see guys I have a fair bit of respect for take cheap pot shots at people.
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Duce
Thanks for being so nice. I dont go off on anyone except Franko here. You see, he threatened my physically and he also lies all the time, which I cant stomach. Anyway.. we are OT
One thing cool about amiga Forever is the Floppy drive click emulation :)
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For someone that wants to revive and live again the magic atmosphere of the 80-90 it is ok to use floppies tapes,and other slow magnetic medias.
There are many sites forums,emulator related that have a large part of the human history of computer science and software.
Practically though with the speed that life goes on on a daily basis,it is not something that many people could do for a long time.
In the 80ies we all had to use disks or tapes to load the software,but we no longer live there,we use faster medias hard disks,and other stuff for our daily practical needs.
Many could have old machines,but i am sure that most of that people would use an emulator 70% and 30% real hardware,and since there are emulators and ways to load software at a fraction of a second there would be no need to spend much time on loading proccesses,
However many people in the amiga platform not yet have floppy emulators that load adf files or have a minimig so it is accepted the fact that they use floppies.
Personally a year or so ago i used an zx128 and spectrum+ with the tape interface they had.I loaded one or 2 games,took ages,and then switched to making mp3s and loading them with an ipod in a few seconds in comparison to having them load through the nasty slow tape interface.I am 30 years old,i have been using disks and tapes since i was 5-6 years old,i do not need the slow facts they carry,although once or twice a year would be good for me.
I believe whdload is the winner in the debate in terms of speed and time,the old floppy speed of reading the data,or listening it making buzzes while it loads the sectors of a non dos game is absolutely great.
Although i practically see no reason for it to be used now.
One that has an a500 or a600 can easily use kickstart 3.1 some ram,a hd or sd have all the games,and load them with whdload.
I remember playing King's quest 5 on a a500 with 1 mbyte ram and 2 floppy drives,with only one floppy the game was unplayable,with 2 drives you could play,though the loading was slow.
If one wanted to replay King's quest 5 today on amiga,would that person choose to listen to the sound of the floppies,and have to play 3 hours of game just to have 45 minutes of real game play ?.the other 2 hours and 15 minutes would be drive loading data,and the message insert disk x?.
No i believe people that are older now have little time to spend because daily life stuff and work does not leave much time free to be able to sit down and wait for the data to load.
That's the reason faster media were invented and used that's the reason a600 and a1200 had ide ports for hard drives,that's the reason poseidon stack Chris Hodges made it possible for us to have usb media solutions on amiga or the deneb,why go back?
Also life expectancy Franko is something that you can easily prolong if you have a good and active sexual life ,after all that is what is Amiga=girlfriend.Maybe having multiple amigas makes one man's life more energetic :P
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Duce
Thanks for being so nice. I dont go off on anyone except Franko here. You see, he threatened my physically and he also lies all the time, which I cant stomach. Anyway.. we are OT
One thing cool about amiga Forever is the Floppy drive click emulation :)
You sad little moron, still playing the victim and telling lies as usual... :rolleyes:
Kinda selective memory you have when you fail to tell everyone who didn't read that thread, that it was you who threatened me first (which can easily be verified by others who did read it)... :rolleyes:
I know others can't be bothered with you popping in out of the blue every now and then and ALWAYS having a pop at me but to be honest I really don't mind, as it just shows you up for the real idiot that you are... ;)
Carry on with your incredibly sad little vendetta against me as I get a good laugh out of it answering you in kind... :)
Just like your sad little campaign of sending PM's a while back to other members asking them to send messages to the mods & owners to ban me failed your ongoing attacks just like yourself are failing miserably as well... ;)
So carry on with you're pathetic little comments and rants but be assured of one thing, each one will be answered in kind... ;)
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Also life expectancy Franko is something that you can easily prolong if you have a good and active sexual life ,after all that is what is Amiga=girlfriend.Maybe having multiple amigas makes one man's life more energetic :P
Nah... once a fortnight is more than enough for me these days, ta very much... ;)
But if an active sex life helps to prolong life then I dread to think when you see some of those old monks who have lived in a monastery all their lives and are 80 or 90 odd years old, well I hate to think what "active sexual life" they've been having to live to such a ripe old age... ;)
Me... I'd rather have a nice cup of cocoa and read a good book these days... now where's me pipe and slippers... :)
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@Magnetic and Franko
Add each other to your respective Ignore lists and if that doesn't cut it, use Piru's JS filter. Seriously, I'm sick of reading this ongoing bollocks from the pair of you.
Consider this a moderation request.
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@Magnetic and Franko
Add each other to your respective Ignore lists and if that doesn't cut it, use Piru's JS filter. Seriously, I'm sick of reading this ongoing bollocks from the pair of you.
Consider this a moderation request.
Consider it what you want, the fact is (as usual) I never even said anything obout this ****, he (as usual) just popped in and started once again with his comments.
So if you've got a problem then I ask you to take it up with him as if every time he posts here and says something about me he shall be replied to in kind.
So don't give me the old "I don't care who started it or who said what" line. If someone says something about me for no damn good reason then they can expect a reply back.
Now if you do your moderators job fairly (and even a blind man can see who start this bollocks) then you will have a word with him and not drag me into this petty crap. thank you... :)
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Franko,
So don't give me the old "I don't care who started it or who said what" line.
Understand this very clearly:
I really do not give a septic rats rectum who started this stupid feud between the pair of you, you are both guilty of perpetuating it; every time you run into each other it's the same childish tit-for-tat.
Now, play nice or *ignore* each other. I am totally tired of seeing the pair of you thinking that somehow the rules on personal attacks magically don't apply to you because you've each been the victim of it from one another.
Now if you do your moderators job fairly (and even a blind man can see who start this bollocks) then you will have a word with him
My first post was addressed fair and square at both of you. This post is only addressed to you because you chose to challenge what was being asked, but everything I've written in it goes for magnetic as well.
Carry on slating each other like this and you'll both be banned. Can't say fairer than that.
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Thread closed for moderation...
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Thread re-opened (was closed for moderation).
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Why floppy disks will still out-cool all that has come since:
[youtube]X4SCSGRVAQE[/youtube]
Beat that, SSD!
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Wow... where do you live in some parts of Glasgow the average age of death for men is 56, Pollockshaws I think the area was, confirmed by WHO (World Health Organisation) just a few years ago... :(
Hey Franko, they only gave that estimate of death in Glasgow because they knew you lived there.
Where I live if you make it to your 70's you are regarded as one of the ancient ones who must have been around since the dawn of time, the average age of death in my town Livingston is 66... :eek:
Time is just tickin away, hahaha
Gawd I'm 47 so I aint to much time left awaiting the NatAmi's arrival... :(
Think it's time to spend me life savings on something else while I've still got the chance... ;)
If you are awaiting on NatAmi, the person working on it knows you, he is bidding his time, takin it slow, just to make you suffer. The day he reads your obituary, he will bring it out in the honor of your death, hahaha, life is so cruel, the only crueler thing would be to set up a Natami on your grave and have all the Amiga.org people use it in honor of you.
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If you are awaiting on NatAmi, the person working on it knows you, he is bidding his time, takin it slow, just to make you suffer. The day he reads your obituary, he will bring it out in the honor of your death, hahaha, life is so cruel, the only crueler thing would be to set up a Natami on your grave and have all the Amiga.org people use it in honor of you.
Hi Smerf... :)
Now that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, it all one big conspiracy you know, their all out to get me (especially the mods, nasty humourless gits)... :(
Anywhoo, if they really wanna use it on me grave they are more than welcome, cos I intend to be buried at sea and hopefully the buggers can't swim... :)
Cheers
Franko
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Why floppy disks will still out-cool all that has come since:
[youtube]X4SCSGRVAQE[/youtube]
Beat that, SSD!
Wow Karlos,
That was really cool, how ya due tat
smerf
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Compared to waiting for cassette tape based games to load, floppy disk was awesome.
Wow Karlos don't you know anything, just put that cassette player in fast forward while loading a tape. Loads much faster than a floppy disk unless you have turbo boost on your floppy drive, with my turbo boost I could load a game in about 2 secs flat.
smerf
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Hi Smerf... :)
Now that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, it all one big conspiracy you know, their all out to get me (especially the mods, nasty humourless gits)... :(
Anywhoo, if they really wanna use it on me grave they are more than welcome, cos I intend to be buried at sea and hopefully the buggers can't swim... :)
Cheers
Franko
Darn that was what I was planning to do,
Oh well meet you at King Neptune's place, I hear he has a whole ship load of Amiga's that sank on its way to Norway.
smerf
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Wow Karlos don't you know anything, just put that cassette player in fast forward while loading a tape.
Yeah, but some of us liked to load a bitstream of data in the same order it was recorded ;)
Loads much faster than a floppy disk unless you have turbo boost on your floppy drive, with my turbo boost I could load a game in about 2 secs flat.
Well, even in the days before adf image mounting tools there was a dosdriver that allowed you to create virtual floppy disks on your hard drive or even in your RAM disk...
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I like to stare at construction equipment in my spare time........
You do that too?
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Why floppy disks will still out-cool all that has come since:
Beat that, SSD!
Ah, finally, some real music. Where can I order the portable version?
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Why floppy disks will still out-cool all that has come since:
[youtube]X4SCSGRVAQE[/youtube]
Beat that, SSD!
I remember using a program like that on my A1000 ...22 years ago.
Best bit was the entire A1000 case resonated so it made a huge noise!
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I could care less, as long as the program loads and runs!
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In answer to the OP, I think you're talking about the tactile sensation of putting discs in and out.
You get exactly the same thing with musicians, they prefer older synthesisers with lots of knobs because you can feel the changing of the sounds. Modern synths have lots of knobs now but there's nothing quite the same as the instant feedback you get from playing with a genuine 70s synth.
Same reason I prefer to buy CDs instead of downloads.
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I think whdload and jst and the other hard drive installer are one of the best things about using an amiga today. Checksum errors, swapping, loading times I do not miss at all.
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You get exactly the same thing with musicians, they prefer older synthesisers with lots of knobs because you can feel the changing of the sounds. Modern synths have lots of knobs now but there's nothing quite the same as the instant feedback you get from playing with a genuine 70s synth.
Same reason I prefer to buy CDs instead of downloads.
You are right! Thats why I use analogue drum machines and synths if possible!
And thats why I prefer VINYL over CDs! ;)
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Ooops... I posted this in the wrong thread... :o
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The only "romance" involved with Amiga floppy discs in my opinion is when theyre original copies of software and it has the manuals, box, etc. Apart from that I hate floppies. Always have, probably always will :)
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Floppies rocks!!!. I still like to load my a500 games via floppies, as i like the sound of the drive clocking as i also like to load tapes into my sony hb75p msx computer, after all it's a hobby and it's what you enjoy of it.*If i want to load a game from hd, i fire up steam and do a good play of tf2.
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Interesting replies on here, thanks for all of them. Also, I loved the art work that went in to trainer menu's along with the music. :)
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Same reason I prefer to buy CDs instead of downloads.
CDs??
You people who only like MODERN things!!!
Records!! LPs!! ANALOG BABY!!!!
:lol:
desiv
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The sound of it!
aaaaa-a. a. a. a. a. a. a. a. a. a. eeeeeee urrrrrrrr.
Sometimes it took far too long though, I'm sure some games took three or four times as long to load as it does to copy an entire disk.