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Title: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: on April 16, 2003, 03:00:26 PM
Hey there

I want to try Amiga emulation on my PC (athlon xp 1800 with winxp) mainly for creating music. I have absolutely no idea what I need to download or what I have to once i've downloaded it...

Can anyone give me a tutorial on how to get an amiga emulator up and running?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Kronos on April 16, 2003, 03:06:51 PM
It seems that you don't have an real Amiga ?

Best way would be to get Amiga-Forever, which contains all
you need.

http:/
/www.cloanto.com/amiga/forever/ (http://www.cloanto.com/amiga/forever/)

If you got a real Amiga you could use the free version of UAE
with a ROM-file generated from the Amiga.
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: on April 16, 2003, 03:15:01 PM
No i don't have a real amiga  :-D

But I got amiga forever and it works great.. all I need now is some music making software. I'm presuming there are legal technicalities with getting it from the internet?  :-?
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Trooper on April 16, 2003, 03:16:04 PM
Hi,

Quote

bainy wrote:
Hey there

I want to try Amiga emulation on my PC (athlon xp 1800 with winxp) mainly for creating music. I have absolutely no idea what I need to download or what I have to once i've downloaded it...

Can anyone give me a tutorial on how to get an amiga emulator up and running?

Thanks!



Here a link that should get you up and running, I have only glanced over it, But it seems to be reasonably complete.

OS News classic amiga emulation tutorial. (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1561)

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Trooper
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Kronos on April 16, 2003, 03:19:56 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh ...... ;-)

Look no further than here (http://www.amigarealm.com/amiga/amiaudio.htm)


OctaMed is supposed to very good (and free), but don't ask me   :-o
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: DeQuevedo on April 16, 2003, 03:51:55 PM
@Bainy

What the ####!

Go out and get a REAL AMiGA. Then you will taste THE way of doing things.

Its the only way in the Jedi´s way.

Emulation Suxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: bloodline on April 16, 2003, 04:05:02 PM
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Kronos wrote:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh ...... ;-)

Look no further than here (http://www.amigarealm.com/amiga/amiaudio.htm)


OctaMed is supposed to very good (and free), but don't ask me   :-o


Jah, OctaMED SoundStudio is wicked. You'll be makin' choons 'till ya ears bleed!!!!

In other words, I use it and find it a dream for music on the Amiga. It can be a bit of a pain with MIDI, but you'll figure it out.

And yes, for that unmistakable Amiga sound you will need a real Amiga, the Emu's can't get it right. Non linear DAC's and all that... :-D
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Turambar on April 16, 2003, 04:09:48 PM
Totalbiscuit?
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Paul_Gadd on April 16, 2003, 04:11:44 PM
@bainy

If your have a news server what has binaries then there is loads of Amiga goodies for emulators on alt.binaries.warez.amiga
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: that_punk_guy on April 16, 2003, 10:58:52 PM
If you want good Amiga audio, you need an Amiga. Even with a large sound buffer, UAE's sound output is really nasty. It's also really hard to "play along" using the keyboard because the timing's so dodgy.

My A1200 copes great with OctaMED Soundstudio (version 1 of which is now freeware) and it cost me £60  :-D

That way you also get the secret Amiga X-factor.

(I'm just wondering outloud here then when I ask if anyone knows: Will Soundstudio run on A1/OS4?)

 :-)

Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Methuselas on April 16, 2003, 11:26:04 PM
They're right. I used to attempt it on my 1.4XP with a GIG of ram, SB live and it STILL would sound crappy from time to time. I've had better luck with just using OctaMEDSS for PC, but it's crap compared to the original.  ;-)
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Methuselas on April 16, 2003, 11:33:35 PM
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(I'm just wondering outloud here then when I ask if anyone knows: Will Soundstudio run on A1/OS4?)


Personally, I'd like to see it have full AHI support. It would make it run a bit better on my Amithlon box. I'm sure there will be an OS4 version. *drools* :-o
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Varthall on April 17, 2003, 12:48:51 AM
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bloodline wrote:

Jah, OctaMED SoundStudio is wicked. You'll be makin' choons 'till ya ears bleed!!!!

In other words, I use it and find it a dream for music on the Amiga. It can be a bit of a pain with MIDI, but you'll figure it out.
 

Soudstudio isn't so great, at least if working with huge modules and 16 bit samples.

- With 16 bit samples the volume can be set ONLY to 4-5 values; these values are not fixed, but they depend from the track volume, so that you have to find out by yourself for each samples what these values are. Also, because of this it's NOT possible to make decent volume slides, and if you find that a sample  would sound right with a volume between two values, you have to directly boost or reduce the sample.

- When using large samples, saving is painfully slow on a 030/50: you'll have to wait 2-3 minutes to save a 4 megs or bigger module. The loading routine is strangely faster.

- When saving a module as an aiff file, the volume is low even if the volume slider in the mixing windows is set to maximum.

I've seen that there's a patching system available for Octamed, it uses assembly programs instead of arexx and it can perform actions many times faster than Arexx. Maybe it could be used to (at least partially) fix these issues.
Anyway, Digibooster Pro looks much nicer, pity that the same last version that was released some years ago is now twice as expensive.

Varthall
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: iamaboringperson on April 17, 2003, 12:56:21 AM
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Turambar wrote:
Totalbiscuit?

WTF? get youre own avatar!!!
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Karlos on April 17, 2003, 01:06:45 AM
Quote

iamaboringperson wrote:
Quote

Turambar wrote:
Totalbiscuit?

WTF? get youre own avatar!!!


You really are bored just now, eh? :-)
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Hammer on April 17, 2003, 03:17:36 AM
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bainy wrote:
No i don't have a real amiga  :-D

But I got amiga forever and it works great.. all I need now is some music making software. I'm presuming there are legal technicalities with getting it from the internet?  :-?

Refer to http://www.alfred-j-faust.de/indexeng.html for unofficial developments and updates for Bars&Pipes.
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Turambar on April 17, 2003, 01:47:43 PM
Hail Totalbiscuits brother!
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: MarkTime on April 17, 2003, 03:45:49 PM
My advice:

GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

don't read any more...run away...just back away
from the keyboard...do it right now and run,
don't care where, just run....as fast as you can, as long as you can....run run run.

Call a friend and have them come to your house and turn your computer off for you.  Make sure they don't look at the screen....but they'll probably be safe, not everyone is susceptible but you are clearly at risk.
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: Bodie on April 17, 2003, 03:50:56 PM
Quote

MarkTime wrote:
My advice:

GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

don't read any more...run away...just back away
from the keyboard...do it right now and run,
don't care where, just run....as fast as you can, as long as you can....run run run.

Call a friend and have them come to your house and turn your computer off for you.  Make sure they don't look at the screen....but they'll probably be safe, not everyone is susceptible but you are clearly at risk.


Negative. He has already been assimilated into the singular Amiga collective  :-P .
Title: Re: Complete and utter newbie wants to get started with Amiga Emulation
Post by: melott on April 17, 2003, 06:18:24 PM
hello.....

I D/Led 'WinUAE' .. seems to be a file missing.
Or it wasn't included.
The file " WS2_32DLL" isn't here.
If someone could Email it to me or tell me what I
have to do to get it.
A little experience here would go a long way.

Mel Ott
melott1@netonecom.net