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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: cinemaware on August 10, 2012, 06:05:15 PM
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Hi there,
in the last days we talked about a big announcement and now its time. Today we start our Kickstarter Campaign for a HD-Edition of Wings. This Wings: Directors´s Cut will also have new levels and story element. Release, if this campaign is successfull, should be Feb. 2013 and will be released for PC(windows and mac, Tablets and mobile devices (Android and iOS).
Here the link to our campaign: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut)
So please spread out the word for this campaign. Post it, tweet it, tell your grandma :)
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Hi there,
in the last days we talked about a big announcement and now its time. Today we start our Kickstarter Campaign for a HD-Edition of Wings. This Wings: Directors´s Cut will also have new levels and story element. Release, if this campaign is successfull, should be Feb. 2013 and will be released for PC(windows and mac, Tablets and mobile devices (Android and iOS).
Here the link to our campaign: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut
So please spread out the word for this campaign. Post it, tweet it, tell your grandma :)
Why no AmigaOS4.1 version?
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Even that we have no developer for that, it's also that for a company its hard to develop for a plattform that is only used by a small group of people.
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Well... Isn't it kinda cheeky to post at amigans forum and ask for a support for iOS/Android/PC version of your game?
Better tell us what would be the overall cost of a version for AmigaOS/MorphOS/AROS. Then open a kickstarter project for it and come back here to advertise it.
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Even though Wings was the game I loved and played several times on my Amiga (last time quite recently!), I consider this Kickstarter campaign as a fail and will avoid it. Cinemaware's representative is some young girl who probably wasn't even born yet in "real" Cinemaware days and in reality for the money is not asking Cinemaware but some (unknown to me) Raylight Studios...
Kickstarter campaign are all about trust, trust in product and in the company who should deliver it. Here I miss the trust in the developer...
Few days ago I saw great E3 2012 interview with Brian Fargo (developing Wastlands 2 throu Kickstarter campaign) about Kickstarter. You should watch it and learn from there Cinemaware!
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Raylight Studios are the developers for Wings, but not the owner of Cinemaware. We decide to make the Promovideos for the Summer- and Kickstart Campaign with Sasha, because the original commercials and adds in print magazines got also women with ... extras :) So we believe the original cinemaware would make this kind of PR also today. Like Hollywood.
The Video was not paid by Raylight or another Publisher. But in the next days we will update the campaign with artworks, screens and so on.
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I loved playing WIngs on my Amiga years back.
I will check out the kickstarter page and I can understand from a practical and a business point of view why a version for AmigaOS4 is not planned. Still it would be nice if the code could be open sourced and just leave the data files commercial, that way someone can port it at a later date could port it and you would get a sale since to play it, you would still need to purchase a copy of the game for its data files.
It's a shame you don't plan a Linux version.
The idea of playing the game again on newer Amiga hardware does cause feelings of nostalgia to well up. Damn it's dusty in this room all of a sudden.
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Even that we have no developer for that, it's also that for a company its hard to develop for a plattform that is only used by a small group of people.
Then perhaps consider making a license and source available in the future to one of the OS4 developers?
Plaz
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That's the greatest Cinemaware game ever and one of the best on Amiga!
Actually, i still prefer the Amiga screenshots from the remastered ones.
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Oh please, Amiga is DEAD, OS4 has NOTHING to do with the machines Commodore designed, it is just a minority OS produced by some tiny company that is an evolution of the PPC kludge to run the original OS on REAL Amigas with PPC accelerators sold by third party manufacturers.
So it's not coming out for OS4/MOS, boo hoo. WHEN someone with serious price/performance technical savvy builds and OS4 compatible machine which has the performance of a $600 Intel i7 for the same price OR LESS then we can talk. Until then give them a break, if you don't want to fund it or interested in playing a game based on an Amiga game possibly with DirectX11 quality then please don't post in here.
There will be NO OS4 games and NO classic Amiga games, I assumed this even before opening the thread because I am sane and not suffering any delusional effects to my brain, to expect anything else is ridiculous. I can't even get help to program my textured 3D Buck Rogers remake to purchase a replacement A2000 1mb chipram motherboard FFS. Even if they made it for OS4 it would probably sell LESS copies than the only game ever produced for the Commodore C64 65816 based accelerator, and that would probably be at best.
They are posting here because people who liked the games may be interested, I sure as hell would be interest in a remake of It Came from the Desert because it is an excellent game and the PC Engine CDROM version caused them to fold in the first place. How fitting to have that game remade with HD MKV video overlaid animated actors over 1080p gorgeous backdrops in 5.1 surround sound.
They already released ALL their games for FREE to the public, jeez what more do people want? There are many many publishers who would email you to have downloads of disk images for their Amiga games removed from your website you know.
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Another long dead company who's name has been bought and resold in and out of bankruptcy....
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I'm going to support the Android port after all. It is cool to keep this great game alive. Android ports have been made for other amiga games like Battle Squadron so why not this Cinemaware masterpiece?
The only thing i do not agree with is the remastered graphics. Original graphics were great by the time and are still now admired as pixel art. Show them respect!
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you say no os4/morphos.. then you make it for the niche market pc... where have you been?... the big marked today is ps3/x360, not pc's anymore... and no ps3/x360 version in retail, then i just give a damn. pc are just for office work or home web surfing.
another thing is when you can do Android port you sure can do a psvita version to... another big market missed.
but jumping on an amiga forum and expect people falling all over because big cinemaware is back. is just expecting to much these days, its 2012 after all.
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So it's not coming out for OS4/MOS, boo hoo. WHEN someone with serious price/performance technical savvy builds and OS4 compatible machine which has the performance of a $600 Intel i7 for the same price OR LESS then we can talk. Until then give them a break, if you don't want to fund it or interested in playing a game based on an Amiga game possibly with DirectX11 quality then please don't post in here.
Never say never. Aquaria and Uplink were ported to MOS, so anything is possible. Besides, if Mac and android are targets, it won't be DirectX nothing :)
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1%.. Wow they're on the way.......
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Next inline to buy Cinemaware if this round FAILS.
lost
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Well... Isn't it kinda cheeky to post at amigans forum and ask for a support for iOS/Android/PC version of your game?.
No, it's not..
It's unrealistic to expect that from a company trying to establish itself.
Lots of us here on this Amigans forum also like iOS or Android or PC...
It is definitely cheeky to ask a company who's doing a Kickstarter campaign to get started to do a port to a system with a miniscule user base.. ;-)
Not that it's not good to ask..
There might be a dev or 2 on the actual dev team who is an Amiga fan and might do that for fun...
I think that's how some of the early Linux ports of commercial games happened.
desiv
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I have pm them that they should announce support for any of the NG platforms otherwise I doubt they will create much interest. No answer... I think it is the typical case of someone just asking for the best of the community... the money :-)
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...they should announce support for any of the NG platforms otherwise I doubt they will create much interest.
Because the other retro re-dos on Kickstarter have failed so badly by not doing that???
Really???
If you (anyone) are an Amiga developer and you are capable, you should e-mail them and tell you you would be willing to actually do the port, showing them some examples to let them know you can do that..
Let them know how much it will cost them..
Then they can figure it into their funding model and see if it's feasible...
Remember, they are not developers. They are going to be contracting with developers, and I'm willing to be those current developers they have chosen probably aren't familiar with AmigaNG dev....
I get a bit mad a people who talk about Amiga fans being unrealistic. I think we are realistic, just also fans..
But then I hear people actually thinking that a new publisher would consider the tiny market for an initial release and wonder....
desiv
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Now be realistic too... contracting developers works only with money and they obviously do not have the money. Everything you offer will be too much for them. Such a project can only work if they would be developers who could invest their time in it in the hope and expectation that it will be a success.
Or you offer them to work for them and only paid when it is successful. But you do not sound that way (and I would not want to either)
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Now be realistic too... contracting developers works only with money and they obviously do not have the money.
That's not the way Kickstarter works..
At least not for the people who aren't doing their own development (Cinemaware is a lot like the Leisure Suit Larry guys in this area)
They are contracting with the developers with lots of money (depending on your definition of "lots").. Assuming the Kickstarter campaign is successful...
It's not that different from the current system.
They are getting money from "their investors" and the contracts will be pending funding.
Just in this case, the "investors" are the Kickstarter members and not a big software company or Bank..
That's the whole point of Kickstarter, and why they have to aim at the group to be most likely to fund them... That's not going to be AmigaNG people..
Now, with the DoubleFine or the BannerSaga guys, it's different as they are developing the game themselves.. Or at least partially (they did have to hire contractors for some things and those contracts were also pending funding from Kickstarter..).
What you might want to do is contact some AmigaNG developers and ask them what it would cost to "port" a game.
Then go to the property holder and ask them how much it would cost to license the game for that port.
Then you can start a kickstarter campaign yourself to do the port....
desiv
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Well I do not have an iOS or Android phone, I use an maemo qwerty phone and use debian on it instead so no interest in those versions (I would never ever play on touchscreen anyways or carry around a gamepad for a phone).
Then my question is, you are doing it for OpenGL and porting to OpenGL ES so are you releasing it for Linux? Since it would be an easy move.
If you do an Linux port I would support.
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Well I do not have an iOS or Android phone, I use an maemo qwerty phone and use debian on it instead so no interest in those versions (I would never ever play on touchscreen anyways or carry around a gamepad for a phone).
Then my question is, you are doing it for OpenGL and porting to OpenGL ES so are you releasing it for Linux? Since it would be an easy move.
If you do an Linux port I would support.
I can't imagine the re-make being sophisticated enough to need OpenGL unless they intend to add 3D and some other effects. From reading about the Kickstart program for Wings, all I've been able to gather about the re-make is that the old lo-res screens will be updated with clearer hi-res graphics. That could all be done in Flash, just like the online version of Wings that Cinemaware was hosting on their web site a while back. I have to add that the the amount of money they're asking for is a bit high in my opinion.
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Isn't it kinda cheeky to post at amigans forum and ask for a support for iOS/Android/PC version of your game?
Perhaps it's only Amiga folks that remember Cinemaware.
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So we believe the original cinemaware would make this kind of PR also today.
You are not the original?
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It is definitely cheeky to ask a company who's doing a Kickstarter campaign to get started to do a port to a system with a miniscule user base.. ;-)
If that's the case then what the heck they're doing posting on Amiga.org forum? Their message is like: "Hey, we are Cinemaware, and our company used to make games for Amiga. You know what? We need your money so that we could do a fantastic remake for iOS/PC/Whatever-not-Amiga, so come on and pledge". Maybe in a week or two we'll get a news item by Microsoft CEO: "Hi, our company made a stunning version of Amiga BASIC once, so go now and buy Windows 8/9/X/whatever"?
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If that's the case then what the heck they're doing posting on Amiga.org forum?
Because I think they figured that a lot of us Amiga fans also have iOS, Android and PCs, and yet still remember Cinemaware fondly...
(Didn't I cover this already?)
Lots of us here on this Amigans forum also like iOS or Android or PC...
Yes, I did.. :crazy: :o :)
desiv
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Well... Isn't it kinda cheeky to post at amigans forum and ask for a support for iOS/Android/PC version of your game?
Better tell us what would be the overall cost of a version for AmigaOS/MorphOS/AROS. Then open a kickstarter project for it and come back here to advertise it.
+ 1, a company like Cinemaware should support AmigaOS today
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I think they figured that a lot of us Amiga fans also have iOS, Android and PCs, and yet still remember Cinemaware fondly...
You just gave an excuse to Microsoft (and probably a dozen of other software companies) to spam Amiga.org with their commercials. Good job :crazy:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHNNAnHuB2c
on Android! :) Battery dead on good cam so usb crap one was used!
lost
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You just gave an excuse to Microsoft (and probably a dozen of other software companies) to spam Amiga.org with their commercials. Good job :crazy:
So they were waiting for me???
Wow..
I'm better than I thought!!!
:banana::banana::banana:
desiv
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So they were waiting for me???
You know what I'm talking about - Cinemaware is no way better than any remake-it-yourself-former-Amiga company. No reason to debate about its plans and products, moreover - I don't believe this announcement deserves a news item on the main page. Or maybe we'd all like to read about new versions of Lightwave, Prince of Persia, or Worms?
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If that's the case then what the heck they're doing posting on Amiga.org forum? Their message is like: "Hey, we are Cinemaware, and our company used to make games for Amiga. You know what? We need your money so that we could do a fantastic remake for iOS/PC/Whatever-not-Amiga, so come on and pledge". Maybe in a week or two we'll get a news item by Microsoft CEO: "Hi, our company made a stunning version of Amiga BASIC once, so go now and buy Windows 8/9/X/whatever"?
back in 2002 they released 'defender of the crown remastered', they did it fine without even doing any ebegging then...
look here..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pqg-SPbrN4
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The original Cinemaware went belly up in 1991. There's an interview with the original folks here: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26583/Interview_Bob_Jacob_On_The_Cinemaware_Era.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26583/Interview_Bob_Jacob_On_The_Cinemaware_Era.php)
Some guy named Lars Fuhrken-Batista bought the name and ip and had a six year run with it from 2000-2005.
He sold it to egames.
You are not the original?
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The original Cinemaware went belly up in 1991. There's an interview with the original folks here: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26583/Interview_Bob_Jacob_On_The_Cinemaware_Era.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26583/Interview_Bob_Jacob_On_The_Cinemaware_Era.php)
Some guy named Lars Fuhrken-Batista bought the name and ip and had a six year run with it from 2000-2005.
He sold it to egames.
yeah they even did a ps2 version of 'defender of the crown' back then...
link:
http://www.listal.com/game/robin-hood-defender-crown-playstation-2-27214
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If that's the case then what the heck they're doing posting on Amiga.org forum? Their message is like: "Hey, we are Cinemaware, and our company used to make games for Amiga. You know what? We need your money so that we could do a fantastic remake for iOS/PC/Whatever-not-Amiga, so come on and pledge". Maybe in a week or two we'll get a news item by Microsoft CEO: "Hi, our company made a stunning version of Amiga BASIC once, so go now and buy Windows 8/9/X/whatever"?
They posted on Amiga.org probably because the OLD Cinemaware made a game called "Wings" for the Amiga eon's ago. Now it appears they are attempting to do something new with it on another platform(s) and posted here for some of us nostalgic types familiar with the Amiga to possibly take an interest.
Is that really so hard to figure out?
I know, let's attack them for it..... sheesh.
As far as plugging this back in to the Old (or for that matter NEW) Amiga hardware, get real.
Maybe I should dig my old typewriter out and then get ticked at the local tech store that they don't support it anymore and don't have any parts. Heck, there are probably 20 typewriter users in my metropolitan area! The nerve of those people not to support us!
Boo-hoo, Amiga is dead, enjoy it for the nostalgia ride that it is and tinker with new add-on's, etc. but dont' get too delusional people. The ship has sailed.
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I do not attack them for their business decision and wish them good luck collecting the money. But I personal do not donate for projects that are not directly connected to amiga. Nostalgia or old brand names are not enough for me. But everybody can decide for himself/herself...
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And regarding Ship is sailed, all is lost...
I think it is interesting what we can realize and where we will be in future (I write this from my view as a Aros-supporter) and I am looking forward to be a part of it. If it will become mainstream again is of course another question but you must try to get to the stars to reach them :-)
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Oh please, Amiga is DEAD, OS4 has NOTHING to do with the machines Commodore designed, it is just a minority OS produced by some tiny company that is an evolution of the PPC kludge to run the... blah blah blah blah
Congratulations amiga is dead you are a genius, all people know it but the "problem" is all that companies from the "past" wanting to ge tmore money from the amiga "cadaver" using the "latest machines for playing" tablets and phones.
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What's interesting is that eGames.com and Cinemaware.com are using different services to hide their identity. But can you have a "director's cut" if the "directors" (Bob and Phyllis Jacobs) are not involved?
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Okay, we take a first step. We just announced also the Linux and Mac OS Version. Yes, and we can call it "Director's Cut" as Ken Melville, the writer and composer of Wings, is on Board. Okay, it is a writer's cut then, but serious?
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If it's like the GBA remake it won't be all that good.
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I wish them the best... Hey at least they didn't ask for free os4 hardware to make an os4 version....
I do wonder a bit about their kickstarter goal. That seems like alot of coin to port to pc, linux and osx and add some bits to call it a "deluxe" version, but I don't know what the developer time would be. I do know that once you have any of those 3 versions ported (say port to windows first) Its relatively easy to port to the other two after that.
A few months of a full time developer goes for that high? I gotta start writing software again. Add to that they will sell the new version by instant download or apps stores I suppose.
:razz:
But hey, they made GREAT games back in the day and they deserve to make every penny they can, I wish them the best!
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Oh I didn't realize they were redoing all the original graphics in hd... That would be quite expensive.
Will you also be redoing the music/sound fx in higher quality?
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On the Kickstarter-Page you can listen to a Clip from the new soundtrack. we are also adding new levels and story elements. So it isnt just a "redo"
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On the Kickstarter-Page you can listen to a Clip from the new soundtrack. we are also adding new levels and story elements. So it isnt just a "redo"
I'll be waiting for iOS version, thank you! :)
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Okay, we take a first step. We just announced also the Linux and Mac OS Version. Yes, and we can call it "Director's Cut" as Ken Melville, the writer and composer of Wings, is on Board. Okay, it is a writer's cut then, but serious?
Since the game does not feature highestly demanding gfx and you just announced support for OS X and Linux it doesn't seem too unlikely to me you may happen to use some SDL library. If so, you can rather easily do a MorphOS, AROS and AmigaOS4 version, SDL is available for these systems, too.
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@cinemaware
Looks good, best of luck with the kickstarter campaign!
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"Jammo, jammo 'ncoppa, jammo jà"
Viva ragazzi!
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Hi there,
in the last days we talked about a big announcement and now its time. Today we start our Kickstarter Campaign for a HD-Edition of Wings. This Wings: Directors´s Cut will also have new levels and story element. Release, if this campaign is successfull, should be Feb. 2013 and will be released for PC(windows and mac, Tablets and mobile devices (Android and iOS).
Here the link to our campaign: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut
So please spread out the word for this campaign. Post it, tweet it, tell your grandma :)
To be honest with you, I thought your games sucked as far as game-play. They do have nice graphics and sound, but, that is not enough to make them fun to play. Game-playability is the most important part of any game. Many Amiga games had great graphics and sound, but, after I played them for about 5 minutes, I stopped and never played them again. BTW, I have all of your games, like new with their original boxes.
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Wings wasn't my favourite.
Do It Came From The Desert and you've got me.
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I enjoyed the GBA version of Wings. Best of luck to the new custodians of the Cinemaware brand.
On a side note, Amiga.org has become a very hateful place. It's sad.
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Today we made post an update, because there where many questions "why 350.000 USD"? In the link you can find a long text, which explains this ammount.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut/posts/289376
@Trev: We can handle this :)
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Very good and honest explantion.
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OK another day where I feel disgusted to have to admit to being a member of the human race. Once again someone tries to bring back some of the old Amiga magic and is met by contempt and hate from people that do NOT HAVE A FRIGGIN CLUE about how things work.
To the mental GIANT that asked why did they come here to announce this project..
OF COURSE they would come here genius... The original was an Amiga only game so the ONLY people that would give a rat's a$$ about it being remade are ex Amigans... Where would you go, a Texas Instruments Calculator symposium?
To all you selfish "I am entitled to whatever I want and I want it for nothing" folks..
You forever Bitch, piss and moan that no one ever develops anything for your precious Amiga and then point with SCORN saying they are "Trying to reap profits from our beloved Amiga memory." Well no EFFING $hit genius... The FACTS are that the only way they can provide ANY product is if they can make money doing it... So OF COURSE they are trying to make money. And if they make a decent product I HOPE THEY DO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AS THEY DESERVE IT
I get so effing tired of people hating companies and individuals because they are successful... Get off your own collective a$$es and do something worthwhile and MAYBE you can be successful too. Until then stop trying to bring down the World because you are a sorry sore, jealous, lazy a$$.
I for one commend these folks for taking a risk and attempting to provide a continuation for a classic game that I for one hold dear... Thanks folks and I will be supporting you..
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Once again someone tries to bring back some of the old Amiga magic
Hey, there's a lot of this magic around lately: Look - The Settlers 7, Worms Revolution - why haven't I seen a single news on Amiga.org concerning these brilliant and full of "Amiga magic" pieces of software?
I don't care if the new Cinemaware makes money on their new PC game or not. I guess they should if they DESERVE it - that would be fair. But I won't shed a tear if they don't.
And one more thing: Where, my dear and beloved brother did ANYONE in this thread (not counting you) write anything about making an Amiga-oid version of Wings: DC FOR FREE?
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OK another day where I feel disgusted to have to admit to being a member of the human race. Once again someone tries to bring back some of the old Amiga magic and is met by contempt and hate from people that do NOT HAVE A FRIGGIN CLUE about how things work.
To the mental GIANT that asked why did they come here to announce this project..
OF COURSE they would come here genius... The original was an Amiga only game so the ONLY people that would give a rat's a$$ about it being remade are ex Amigans... Where would you go, a Texas Instruments Calculator symposium?
To all you selfish "I am entitled to whatever I want and I want it for nothing" folks..
You forever Bitch, piss and moan that no one ever develops anything for your precious Amiga and then point with SCORN saying they are "Trying to reap profits from our beloved Amiga memory." Well no EFFING $hit genius... The FACTS are that the only way they can provide ANY product is if they can make money doing it... So OF COURSE they are trying to make money. And if they make a decent product I HOPE THEY DO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AS THEY DESERVE IT
I get so effing tired of people hating companies and individuals because they are successful... Get off your own collective a$$es and do something worthwhile and MAYBE you can be successful too. Until then stop trying to bring down the World because you are a sorry sore, jealous, lazy a$$.
I for one commend these folks for taking a risk and attempting to provide a continuation for a classic game that I for one hold dear... Thanks folks and I will be supporting you..
You hit it right on the head here! +1.
Some just will never seem to get it and just need to whine..... Whoops, I gotta log-off here before all that Microsoft spam starts. Friggin insane.......
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You hit it right on the head here! +1.
Some just will never seem to get it and just need to whine..... Whoops, I gotta log-off here before all that Microsoft spam starts. Friggin insane.......
Agreed. I love the Amiga, but I'm quite happy with my PC. I think I've had more fun with building my own PC with the stuff I want and customizing it, than I did back in the Amiga days trying to get it to emulate a Mac or PC. Heck, I can even emulate a better Amiga with my PC than my original Amiga. (The only difference is that I can't use the Toaster Flyer.)
I loved Wings and Rocket Ranger. I bought Defender of the Crown for my PC, and would buy the other two games in a heartbeat if they were available. I'm not going to fund the kickstarter program, though. I've seen these funding projects go sour too many times, and I'm not going to just toss my money away at vaporware. Make the products for the PC, and you've got yourself a buyer.
And I can see why they posted here. I still read tons of articles here, because I loved the Amiga and always hope that something great will return. I wouldn't have known about Wings HD if I hadn't have come here.
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Okay, so here where a couple of guys who said "if there will a amiga port, i will pledge". So please open your wallet, we got an annoucment to make.
Any devoloper who is interested in porting the version can contact us, so the finished version will be available for for an amiga port.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut/posts/291737?ref=email&show_token=102ceec299ae3107
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What do you mean by Amiga OS here? 68k or AmigaOS (PPC) or Aros or MorphOS?
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Okay, so here where a couple of guys who said "if there will a amiga port, i will pledge". So please open your wallet, we got an annoucement to make.
Bra-vo. Hmm... I guess I'll just put my money where my mouth is. Thank you. I'm waiting eagerly for an AmigaOS/MorphOS port.
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What do you mean by Amiga OS here? 68k or AmigaOS (PPC) or Aros or MorphOS?
Anything that is possible. So if a AmigaOS-Developer contact us, and the port is possible, he can do this.
Wasn't that you that would give us a contact to a current Aros Devoloper?
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I had asked but there were some doubts (f.e. regarding the amount of money). But I will try again.
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@Cinemaware
I have sent you a pm
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Okay, so here where a couple of guys who said "if there will a amiga port, i will pledge". So please open your wallet, we got an annoucment to make.
Any devoloper who is interested in porting the version can contact us, so the finished version will be available for for an amiga port.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-directors-cut/posts/291737?ref=email&show_token=102ceec299ae3107
An AmigaOS4.x version? Pledge made!
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Well this is great news :)
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Looks like they missed the mark on funding.....
shucks...
(Sad trombone music...)