AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)

[Iggy]

Don't use f*ckbook!

Hey, Andre says we can not make fun of a banned poster!
f*ckbook indeed. :hammer:

[OlafS3]

Well, one sane voice from amongst the fanatics.
Don't expect the legacy wackos to appreciate the new hardware.
Even if it can run circles around their beloved hardware, they hold tightly to their beliefs.

As to pricing, don't get your hopes up folks.

And that from someone that wants to buy not competitive PPC hardware (both price and performance). From the view of a X86/X64 user you could be called "legacy wacko" too. What do you think? And do Amigans only like hardware that is underpowered compared to the competition? :-)

"they hold tightly to their beliefs" I do not know why I think of you too...

[utri007]

Funny how often/much, aros/morphos users are commentic (again) hardware / os wich shouldn't interest them.

[OlafS3]

Funny how often/much, aros/morphos users are commentic (again) hardware / os wich shouldn't interest them.

I only comment here because of certain phrases used by him that are not very nice. And to be precise Iggy is a MorphOS user praising A-eon (a mixed beast so to say :-) ).

[Iggy]

And that from someone that wants to buy not competitive PPC hardware (both price and performance). From the view of a X86/X64 user you could be called "legacy wacko" too. What do you think? And do Amigans only like hardware that is underpowered compared to the competition? :-)

"they hold tightly to their beliefs" I do not know why I think of you too...

Fair enough, I actually like being part of a small community.

And the quad core 2.5 GHz G5 I am rebuilding is in no way underpowered.

My X64 desktop has two less cores and a similar speed.

Also, for Amiga like OS', its overkill.

You guys build can build your own hardware, I'll stick with Macs and the stuff A-eon is building.

[Iggy]

I only comment here because of certain phrases used by him that are not very nice. And to be precise Iggy is a MorphOS user praising A-eon (a mixed beast so to say :-) ).

That DOES seem weird, doesn't it?
After exchanging some messages with him, I honestly like Trevor Dickinson.
And I have watched the development of Freescale's e5500 cored cpus since they were announced.

Now that A-eon is not directly tied to Hyperion, I don't have a problem cheer-leading for them.

[wawrzon]

Now that A-eon is not directly tied to Hyperion,

is that how trevor sees it? because so far it looks like they are directly tied to each other, doesnt it?

[Iggy]

is that how trevor sees it? because so far it looks like they are directly tied to each other, doesnt it?

I know with Hyperion's history of maligned statements, it can be hard to forgive anyone remotely connected with them.
But I don't hold a grudge against OS4, its users, or developers.
Specifically, while there are others involved in this too, its Ben Hermans I object to.
And he is no longer part of A-eon.

Even most of the MorphOS developers I've talked to don't dislike Trev.

[wawrzon]

i definitely do not dislike trevor, nor even hold grudge against os4 home company, while im just not buying into their offer anymore. especially i dont see why i necessarily need to support something i dont believe in or keep my mouth shut against all odds. while i can understand that trevor probably still sees os4 as best opportunity or a good starting point, no matter the drawbacks, i alas cant share this view. perhaps there is something to justify it i dont know about but, alas the passing time and course of events seem to fit my exepectations.

[yssing]

Wawrzon, no one is forcing you to support any one. No one is forcing any one to support any one.

[Iggy]

He HAS a point.
The pricing IS exceedingly painful.
Basically its serves a niche market and is a vanity project.
No one is trying to argue practicality here.
Its a hobbyist system.

Not only isn't he forced to buy it, he doesn't have to support it.
There is a strong argument not to.

I never said my own attraction to this system was based on logic.
If it was, I wouldn't support the idea of a Morphos port, as a 2.5 G5 Quad core PowerMac would offer the same performance as the best of these boards, at a much reduced cost.

That being said, I still like it.

[agami]

They can call it AmigaONE DonkeyBalls X5000/5020:eP64-1A4 for all I care.
What's more important to me is that:

• it is released to the public by the end of 2014
• it is available in Board + OS form
• the "price of admission" for the new systems (X3500 board + OS) is bellow US$1,000

[Iggy]

They can call it AmigaONE DonkeyBalls X5000/5020:eP64-1A4 for all I care.
What's more important to me is that:

• it is released to the public by the end of 2014
• it is available in Board + OS form
• the "price of admission" for the new systems (X3500 board + OS) is bellow US$1,000

I have not seen that quoted before.
That would be a great improvement in pricing.

[amigakit]

I have not seen that quoted before.
That would be a great improvement in pricing.

It would be nice to get down to that pricing level, but with the high engineering and design costs and small production runs, it will not be achievable, unless boards were sold at a loss.

[Iggy]

It would be nice to get down to that pricing level, but with the high engineering and design costs and small production runs, it will not be achievable, unless boards were sold at a loss.

I...didn't think that was realistic either.
I'd done some numbers estimating an 'at cost' T1022 based board and that was at least as high as that price.
And...I really want one of the two higher end boards.
Or...a successor with AltiVec instructions.

[agami]

I...didn't think that was realistic either.
I'd done some numbers estimating an 'at cost' T1022 based board and that was at least as high as that price.
And...I really want one of the two higher end boards.
Or...a successor with AltiVec instructions.

What I specified is a wish list; basically I'm calling out some of the key reasons I didn't purchase a X1000:

• Delayed release
• Complete PC only
• High price tag

To all involved working on these new systems I'd like to say that hitting two of the three wishes would go a long way. Basically, I don't want a complete PC and I won't care about it in 2016. If you manage to release it in the next 12 months, as a Board + OS kit, and somewhere between US$1,000 and US$1,500  for the entry level X3500, then it is appealing.

I'm having a "replacing Giambi" moment here (from Moneyball).