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Title: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: runequester on October 26, 2010, 06:57:36 AM
So what games can be placed over a serial link ?

The ones I know of:

Populous 2
Lotus 2
Knights of the sky
Alien Breed 3D
Gloom (?)
Fears


What else?


Is this generally hard to set up or do you just plug the cable in ?
Any software you need or no ?
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: kickstart on October 26, 2010, 07:05:12 AM
Armour Geddom
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Xanxi on October 26, 2010, 07:38:59 AM
Vroom.
Dune 2.

I would like to know if those games could be played over serial between a real amiga and an uae machine. I tried once several years ago with a null-modem cable (Lotus 2 i guess) but it did not work.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: runequester on October 26, 2010, 07:41:51 AM
Dune 2 allows it ? Thatd be AWESOME
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Cammy on October 26, 2010, 08:19:44 AM
Here is a list of games you can play with linked Amigas:

Alien Breed 3D
Alien Breed 3D 2
Armour Geddon
Armour Geddon 2
Ballistic Diplomacy
Battle Cars
Battle Cars 2
Battle Chess
Battle Chess 2
Battle Duel
Blitz Bombers
BOMB
Carnage
Colours
Colours Professional
Combat Air Patrol
Days of Thunder
Dog Fight
Doom
Doom II
Dungeon
Embryo
Empire
Exodus The Last War
F-16 Combat Pilot
F16 Falcon
Faces ...Tris III
Fears
Fighter Duel
Fighter Duel Pro
Fighter Duel Pro 2
Fire Brigade
Firepower
Flight of the Intruder
Flight Simulator 2
Global Effect
Gloom
Gloom 3
Gloom Deluxe
Gravity Force 2
Gravity Power
Grid Lock
Gypsy Cards
Hard Drivin 2
Honda RVF750
Hover Sprint
Jet
Knights of the Sky
Leading Lap
Lotus II
Matrix Marauders
Max Rally
Maze Warz
Medieval Warriors
Micro Machines
Moonbases
Motor Duel
Napalm
Operation Com.bat
Overdrive
Perfect General
Populous
Populous 2
Powerdrome
Powermonger
Quake
Reunion
Robosport
Schlachtfeld 2
SerStratego
Skidmarks
Super Skidmarks
Spacewar
Starworld
Stellar Conflict
Stunt Car Racer
Super Tetris
Tank Wars
TeleBackgammon
TeleCheckers
TeleChess
TeleWar
Tom Landry Strategy Football
Tornado
Tracon 2
Turbo Trax
Uropa2 Hoverwars
Vroom
Wingnuts
XTreme Racing
ZapTris
Zombie Massacre   2
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: runequester on October 26, 2010, 08:24:13 AM
awesome, very helpful!

Do you have any experience with this, how hard it is to set up etc ?
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: spirantho on October 26, 2010, 09:56:24 AM
My top 3 (for what it's worth, which is possibly not a lot :) )

Stunt Car Racer - top game! If you haven't tried it yet - stop reading this and go and play it linked up!
Populous II - feel my firey volcano wrath, evil-doers. Oh, the fun you can have plonking a massive volcano in the other persons main towny area.
Powermonger - Roast mutton anyone? (meeh) Splatter your friends with catapults and wait for the screaming as their army is annihilated with maximum prejudice!
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Colani1200 on October 26, 2010, 10:07:05 AM
Quote from: runequester;587133

Is this generally hard to set up or do you just plug the cable in ?


The only one I tried was Firepower, which was pretty easy. Plug in the nullmodem cable and you're ready to go. IIRC, you could also play over telephone line with serial modems (or was that a different game?).
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: ferix on October 26, 2010, 10:53:58 AM
F29 Retaliator?
I used to play It on my PCs, and I'm sure the Amiga version can be played over serial link (null modem cable).
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: gertsy on October 26, 2010, 11:05:15 AM
Yeay Cammy & Colani1200.  Firepower.  I used to play that against my housemate in 1990 for hours into the night.  20 Years ago. Poor little squashed soldiers..
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: ChaosLord on October 26, 2010, 01:56:37 PM
Stunt Car Racer FTW!
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Im>bE on November 08, 2010, 08:08:32 AM
I added serial link support
to my opensource game called "2Decide"
which is on aminet.

I also made a serial link only
2 player space top down shooter
which I never uploaded unfortunately.

off topic:
I made a 2-? player local intense tag game
which I also never uploaded.

I made several other games
including Droidwars 1,2,3,4, and 5,
which are on aminet.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: SamuraiCrow on November 08, 2010, 10:13:55 PM
Quote from: Xanxi;587140
Vroom.
Dune 2.

I would like to know if those games could be played over serial between a real amiga and an uae machine. I tried once several years ago with a null-modem cable (Lotus 2 i guess) but it did not work.


I don't know about Vroom but there is no head-to-head option for Dune 2. :(
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Xanxi on November 09, 2010, 08:05:06 AM
Quote from: SamuraiCrow;590400
I don't know about Vroom but there is no head-to-head option for Dune 2. :(

Yeah, i made a mistake, i got confused by the remake Dune 2000. Bad luck.

Vroom can do it however, even between Amiga and Atari ST (just like Lotus 2).
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Voyager74 on November 09, 2010, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: Cammy;587150
Here is a list of games you can play with linked Amigas:

Wow... Pretty comprehensive list!
Thought of Stuntcar Racer, Battlechess, F-16 Falcon and some other
olden goodies, they were on the list, together with the "newer" Exodus.
Excellent for future reference! :)
.oO(wondering whether Carrier Command had null-modem or not)
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Vegas on November 09, 2010, 03:32:30 PM
Xtreme Racing on 2 Amigas was great! If i remember correctly 6 players could race against each other. So much better than Mario Kart :D
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: pVC on November 09, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
Stunt Car Racer (with turbo-mode, lets say with 030/50) is a perfect example of linkup game.

And Super Skidmarks, we've played that a lot last years on meetings with simultaneous 8 players! You can split display between two Amigas and have 4 players on each computer.

In old times I used to like Knights of the Sky, Lotus and Armour Geddon as linkup game too.

Oh and if you have beefed up Amiga capable to hires gfx fast enough, Napalm is just great in two player mode!
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: hardlink on November 09, 2010, 07:56:34 PM
Quote from: Cammy;587150
Here is a list of games you can play with linked Amigas:


Cammy, I can't believe you missed the best one of all, and the one that can -only- be played using linked Amigas:

VR Slingshot!

Used to be a favorite at our user group meetings.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Cammy on November 09, 2010, 11:48:31 PM
You can't believe I missed listing a game most people have never seen before? I never claimed to have a complete list of games that use null-modem cables, it's just the list I came up with. Anyone is welcome to recompile the list to include all these other games.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Kesa on November 10, 2010, 12:06:10 AM
What's VR Slingshot?

Why is Cammy so nice?
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: giZmo350 on November 10, 2010, 01:24:17 AM
Quote from: Kesa;590646
Why is Cammy so nice?


Cause she's not a nit-wit! Not that I'm calling anyone a nit-wit.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: rockersuke on November 10, 2010, 01:29:06 AM
Quote from: Cammy;587150
Here is a list of games you can play with linked Amigas:

(...)
Dog Fight
(...)



Perhaps Dogfight should be revised. I remember people claiming they played it with serial links, but they might have mixed memories with the PC version. Taking a quik peek at mag reviews I've found some of them stated the Amiga version lacked that option. Can anyone confirm?

--
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: mpiva on November 10, 2010, 06:35:37 AM
Does anyone know if there's a way to fake a null modem connection between two WinUAE "Amigas" over the internet?
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Jakodemus on November 10, 2010, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: mpiva;590689
Does anyone know if there's a way to fake a null modem connection between two WinUAE "Amigas" over the internet?


At least you can connect WinUAE and real amiga with null modem.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Xanxi on November 10, 2010, 09:26:54 AM
Quote from: Jakodemus;590693
At least you can connect WinUAE and real amiga with null modem.


Does not work with lotus 2 for me.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Karlos on November 10, 2010, 01:01:01 PM
Imagine if Syndicate had a multiplayer option. Man I would have loved that. Perhaps maps where both sides need to complete the same, or complementary objectives. For example they both may need to snatch person X, or one snatch them, the other assassinate. The overall winner would be the side that completed the most missions or whatever.

Gumbycorp FTW!
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Jakodemus on November 10, 2010, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: Xanxi;590698
Does not work with lotus 2 for me.


Well at least Gloom Deluxe did work.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: hardlink on November 10, 2010, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: Cammy;590633
You can't believe I missed listing a game most people have never seen before?

Sorry, I was not serious - even about it being the 'best'. It was probably the most unusual, though, and why it people enjoyed messing around with it. It was strictly 2 machine/players, and both machines had to have 3D viewing hardware, X-Specs and a 15KHz CRT monitor or stereoscopic HMD, otherwise it was useless. I still have all that junk, but we don't seem to have meetings anymore, and you can't play with yourself.


Oops: What is it, since most people have never seen it? good point.
Looks like there is little info on the web, except that it involved "Simulation of motion via Newtonian physics. Airflow accurately simulated using Computational Fluid Dynamics Grid techniques."  It was a space battle simulation between two fighters that required a bit of getting used to - a bit of thrust and you would travel and travel. I forgot that it also required analog joysticks! Getting the machines, the HMD and shutter glasses, and monitors, and the analog joystick adapters set up to play was quite a job. The author is still around, looks like took the Amiga references off his website, but added babes (amigas?) in skimpy shirts:

http://www.brightland.com/
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on November 21, 2010, 12:10:52 PM
Quote from: Cammy;587150
Here is a list of games you can play with linked Amigas:

Alien Breed 3D
Alien Breed 3D 2
Armour Geddon
Armour Geddon 2
Ballistic Diplomacy
Battle Cars
Battle Cars 2
Battle Chess
Battle Chess 2
Battle Duel
Blitz Bombers
BOMB
Carnage
Colours
Colours Professional
Combat Air Patrol
Days of Thunder
Dog Fight
Doom
Doom II
Dungeon
Embryo
Empire
Exodus The Last War
F-16 Combat Pilot
F16 Falcon
Faces ...Tris III
Fears
Fighter Duel
Fighter Duel Pro
Fighter Duel Pro 2
Fire Brigade
Firepower
Flight of the Intruder
Flight Simulator 2
Global Effect
Gloom
Gloom 3
Gloom Deluxe
Gravity Force 2
Gravity Power
Grid Lock
Gypsy Cards
Hard Drivin 2
Honda RVF750
Hover Sprint
Jet
Knights of the Sky
Leading Lap
Lotus II
Matrix Marauders
Max Rally
Maze Warz
Medieval Warriors
Micro Machines
Moonbases
Motor Duel
Napalm
Operation Com.bat
Overdrive
Perfect General
Populous
Populous 2
Powerdrome
Powermonger
Quake
Reunion
Robosport
Schlachtfeld 2
SerStratego
Skidmarks
Super Skidmarks
Spacewar
Starworld
Stellar Conflict
Stunt Car Racer
Super Tetris
Tank Wars
TeleBackgammon
TeleCheckers
TeleChess
TeleWar
Tom Landry Strategy Football
Tornado
Tracon 2
Turbo Trax
Uropa2 Hoverwars
Vroom
Wingnuts
XTreme Racing
ZapTris
Zombie Massacre   2
F29 Retaliator too IIRC
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: A4000_Mad on January 16, 2011, 09:27:27 PM
This is a great list thanks Cammy :)

We're having lots of fun playing some of these games. So far we've linked an A1200 Desktop and an A1200 Tower and tried Lotus II and Super Skidmarks :pint:

.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on January 16, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
I vote for sticky - this would be a great list to not get buried.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: X-ray on January 17, 2011, 02:40:23 PM
"Imagine if Syndicate had a multiplayer option. Man I would have loved that. Perhaps maps where both sides need to complete the same, or complementary objectives. For example they both may need to snatch person X, or one snatch them, the other assassinate. The overall winner would be the side that completed the most missions or whatever."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Agreed, that would have been great!
 
There should have been more linked games on the Amiga.
I had Twin Tornado on the C64, even that could could do quite nice linked play.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: slaapliedje on January 17, 2011, 04:57:28 PM
Back in the day, we had hooked up Stuntcar Racer and Populous 2 between the Amiga 500 and the Atari Mega STe.

The funny thing was, on our (yes it was original!) version of Populous 2 for the Atari ST, you could hold down the F9 key and it would just crank up your mana.

So when we played it multiplayer, my brother was on the Amiga and was claiming that I was using this cheat on him because I totally kicked his butt.

Anyhow, I thought it was rather cool that you could network two different platforms together back in the day.

It'd be interesting to get a list of games that would work this way between the Atari and Amiga, then perhaps you could run WinUAE and Hatari side by side on a widescreen display and get some multiplayer fun in.  Pretty sure under Windows you can't run two different copies of WinUAE or Hatari, so you'd kind of need to run both at once, right?

I'm just thinking Stuntcar Racer would be extremely awesome with 4 people (more would just make it ridiculously hard!)

slaapliedje
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: lionstorm on January 17, 2011, 09:59:26 PM
Quote from: Karlos;590709
Imagine if Syndicate had a multiplayer option. Man I would have loved that. Perhaps maps where both sides need to complete the same, or complementary objectives. For example they both may need to snatch person X, or one snatch them, the other assassinate. The overall winner would be the side that completed the most missions or whatever.

Gumbycorp FTW!


there is syndicate wars (on pc though)  that is syndicate in multiplayers (never tried it, it is just whats advertised).
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: runequester on January 17, 2011, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: lionstorm;607337
there is syndicate wars (on pc though) that is syndicate in multiplayers (never tried it, it is just whats advertised).

The expansion disk for the original, American Revolt, supposedly had multiplayer, but only the PC version.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: A4000_Mad on January 17, 2011, 10:35:41 PM
Hi Guys,

Linking two A1200's and playing Lotus II was straight forward as just chose LINK and we did the same for Super Skidmarks :)

For BattleChess we simply choose 'Modem plays red' on one A1200 and 'Modem plays blue' on the other and that works fine too :)

But we can't get see any option to link in Micro Machines :confused:

Can anyone give any instructions please??


.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: kzin on January 18, 2011, 01:13:25 AM
Quote from: slaapliedje;607299

Anyhow, I thought it was rather cool that you could network two different platforms together back in the day.

It'd be interesting to get a list of games that would work this way between the Atari and Amiga, then perhaps you could run WinUAE and Hatari side by side on a widescreen display and get some multiplayer fun in.  Pretty sure under Windows you can't run two different copies of WinUAE or Hatari, so you'd kind of need to run both at once, right?
slaapliedje


I had Mac warcraft2 running under shapeshifter on my A4K and connected to a PC with the PC version, that was cool. it came on a hybrid mac/pc CDRom.
Title: Re: Games that can be played with two linked amigas?
Post by: actung_bab on January 18, 2011, 04:49:05 AM
what about scortched tanks its cool game