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Offline nicholasTopic starter

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and now? Who develops now software for AmigaOS and not for Windows?


And Linux is the most deployed OS on the planet.
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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2015, 01:12:11 PM »
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And Linux is the most deployed OS on the planet.


Definitely not the case for personal computers and laptops in the US.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2015, 01:16:56 PM »
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And Linux is the most deployed OS on the planet.

and AmigaOS installed on millions of computers
 

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2015, 01:18:43 PM »
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Definitely not the case for personal computers and laptops in the US.

it is his kind of sarcasm...

but if AmigaOS would have 10.000 user instead of 1.000 it would be better too
 

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2015, 01:54:42 PM »
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Definitely not the case for personal computers and laptops in the US.

~90% of phones, tablets, servers, routers, STB's and most other embedded devices one can think of on the other hand.....
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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2015, 01:56:48 PM »
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it is his kind of sarcasm...

but if AmigaOS would have 10.000 user instead of 1.000 it would be better too

No not sarcasm. It's true.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2015, 01:57:53 PM »
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~90% of phones, tablets, servers, routers, STB's and most other embedded devices one can think of on the other hand.....

sorry I understood you wrong (as sarcasm comment)
 

Offline OlafS3

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 01:58:33 PM »
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No not sarcasm. It's true.

Even MacOS is a kind of Linux/Unix distribution
 

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2015, 02:06:21 PM »
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Even MacOS is a kind of Linux/Unix distribution

It started off that way yes. Was even an official certified UNIX (r) for version 10.7 IIRC.

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sorry I understood you wrong (as sarcasm comment)

No worries, half of the time my comments are sarcastic tbh ;)
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Linux popularity (from "A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222")
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2015, 02:19:33 PM »
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Definitely not the case for personal computers and laptops in the US.


The ironic thing is that Linus started work on what became Linux because he could not afford to buy a Unix license for his PC.  Twenty four years later and Linux is well established on servers and mobile phones, and pretty much owns the super computer space, but is still around 1% use on desktop systems.  Things seldom work out as envisioned!
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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2015, 02:49:37 PM »
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The ironic thing is that Linus started work on what became Linux because he could not afford to buy a Unix license for his PC.  Twenty four years later and Linux is well established on servers and mobile phones, and pretty much owns the super computer space, but is still around 1% use on desktop systems.  Things seldom work out as envisioned!

Linux users love to claim the android market.
Linux doesn't run on cell phones, a proprietary derivative of it does.
The same with the tablet market.

I wish Linus had had the insight to base his kernel on more modern concepts than UNIX.
Linux has just become another monolithic beast.

As to large firms using it, why wouldn't they adopt free UNIX?

As to individuals being asked to us an OS with UNIX roots?
Personally, I find BSD based OSX to be far easier to work with.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2015, 08:29:20 PM »
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Linux users love to claim the android market.
Linux doesn't run on cell phones, a proprietary derivative of it does.
The same with the tablet market.

I wish Linus had had the insight to base his kernel on more modern concepts than UNIX.
Linux has just become another monolithic beast.

As to large firms using it, why wouldn't they adopt free UNIX?

As to individuals being asked to us an OS with UNIX roots?
Personally, I find BSD based OSX to be far easier to work with.


You are confusing Linux with GNU again Jim.

Linux is not a clone of the UNIX operating system, it is a clone of the UNIX kernel.

GNU is a clone of the UNIX operating system that is commonly used with the Linux kernel but also other kernels too.
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2015, 09:45:27 PM »
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You are confusing Linux with GNU again Jim.

Linux is not a clone of the UNIX operating system, it is a clone of the UNIX kernel.

GNU is a clone of the UNIX operating system that is commonly used with the Linux kernel but also other kernels too.


I would say GNU _was_ an _attempt_ at cloning a UNIX operating system under the GPL license. The native GNU kernel has always been Hurd, and not Linux. These days, all operating systems are a mix of software under a whole range of licenses, it is pretty much the same software powering all the operating systems. For example I have systems with BSD kernels and mostly GNU user land (Gentoo/FreeBSD), and you can easily have Linux systems that are totally free for GNU user land, not at all uncommon on embedded systems.
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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2015, 09:47:00 PM »
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You are confusing Linux with GNU again Jim.

Linux is not a clone of the UNIX operating system, it is a clone of the UNIX kernel.

GNU is a clone of the UNIX operating system that is commonly used with the Linux kernel but also other kernels too.

The Linux kernel underlies a series of UNIX clone OS'.
It is not like they serve a function separately.

And taken as a whole, its still copying, at least BSD has a proper license.
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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2015, 09:49:28 PM »
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I would say GNU _was_ an _attempt_ at cloning a UNIX operating system under the GPL license. The native GNU kernel has always been Hurd, and not Linux. These days, all operating systems are a mix of software under a whole range of licenses, it is pretty much the same software powering all the operating systems. For example I have systems with BSD kernels and mostly GNU user land (Gentoo/FreeBSD), and you can easily have Linux systems that are totally free for GNU user land, not at all uncommon on embedded systems.

I have seen those type of systems.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"