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Offline runequester

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2012, 09:05:44 PM »
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Does Linux even support Blu Ray yet? Movies that is, I assume it supports Blu Ray data discs but they are hardly popular.


You can, but I dont know if its a hassle or not.

Given that you can expect zero support from CUSA, you'd better be good at googling ;)
 

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2012, 09:07:36 PM »
The thing that irks me is that they claim that this is the first new "amiga" for however many years. What about the X1000. Or every other sodding project that has been running for however long.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2012, 09:16:55 PM »
Does it run Workbench or AmigaOS ?
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2012, 09:23:31 PM »
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Does it run Workbench or AmigaOS ?


Yeah it does, but only if you run UAE. I have enough plenty of machines that can do that, including my original XBox and my PC.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2012, 09:29:25 PM »
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I also think the Bluray is a bit gimicky too. Why would you put a Bluray  on an Amiga? I have a PS3 and you couldn't force me to use it, so how  would you get people to use it on an Amiga? Bluray is nothing more than a  gimmick. Kinda like 3DTV.

Great, now i am quoting myself  :mickeymouse: as obviously i put this in the wrong thread ;)
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2012, 09:29:49 PM »
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I want the Vic version.
I am not for sure I want to buy a machine that has Amgia written on it just yet.


Riiight, because "Vic" was used all over the place in the original Amiga line, as in "Get your budget Vic A2000".
 

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2012, 09:39:55 PM »
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The thing that irks me is that they claim that this is the first new "amiga" for however many years. What about the X1000. Or every other sodding project that has been running for however long.


And all the previous released boards like original A1s, SAMs, Natami ...

But its the marketing strategy, even we don`t like it. It is first product with "Commodore" and "Amiga" names, even factual is that it is CommodoreUSA (and not CBM) product. They will continue to do so.

There is a small petition against it, so far just 46 signatures
http://www.petitiononline.com/newamiga/petition.html

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My objection is not only confusion to AmigaOne series, but to Amiga Classics. Some people still use Classics, and they are not reproducing Classic models of any kind. Having EXACT same name of the old and new model IS confusion (e.g. how to threat it on Wikipedia etc.). However, knowing it will be simple PC`s I doubt they will also ever enter Amiga history pages or Wikipedia articles: they have nothing to do with AmigaOS`s which is real Amiga criteria.

Petition idea

t has come to our attention that Commodore USA is about to launch a new line of "AMIGA(tm)" branded computers using the classic Amiga(tm) naming convention. These new computers have absolutely nothing in common with the old Amiga(tm) computers other than the name.

By the reuse of the classic Amiga(tm) names we firmly believe that this will confuse potential users of the AmigaOS(tm) platforms, i.e. the AmigaONE(tm) line of computers.

Your "Amiga 1000x" model for instance will most likley be confused with the "AmigaONE X1000" from A-EON. The Amiga community today is focused around the AmigaOS and its derivatives. While Commodore USA might not see this as a primary market a lot of work both commercial and non-profitable has been put into the success of the Next Generation AmigaOS and the AmigaONE hardware. That is why the sudden introduction of a new Commodore branded Amiga 1000x could be seen as a way to buy into this success.

This is the reason why we wholeheartedly appeal to you to reconsider using the old classic Amiga numbering in your new line of Commodore Amigas.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2012, 10:40:59 PM »
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Interesting how all the power calculators I check tell me a system like that would require a 500-600W PSU. How the hell is this going to run on the PSU supplied? I look forward to the reviews from the customers, provided they escape the inevitable house fire of course. As for this being an Amiga, yeah.... . whatever!

This shows 51-202 watts drawn:
 
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1751/14/
 
 
In order to get a review from a customer, you would have to find a sucker that is going to pay $2500 for a (at best) $1300 computer.  
 
If anyone is going to buy one of these, please show yourself somewhere!  You won't be hurt or flamed - I just want to understand who is motivated to buy one of these.  What is the target market?
 
I don't even see anyone on CUSA's forum that claims they are buying one.  The only thing that will catch fire is the single protype that will eventually get made (since apparantly none exist and they need to photoshop everything).
 

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2012, 10:51:51 PM »
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Of course it does have a Blu-Ray drive. Apple hasn't gotten around to embracing those yet.

OT, but I just had to comment. The reason Apple hasn't gotten around to "embracing" Blu-Ray yet is because Apple feels that optical media is finished. Go look at the current Mac Mini. iMac is next to get "the business", mark my words!
 

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2012, 11:22:08 PM »
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OT, but I just had to comment. The reason Apple hasn't gotten around to "embracing" Blu-Ray yet is because Apple feels that optical media is finished. Go look at the current Mac Mini. iMac is next to get "the business", mark my words!
I just thought I would add that I've stopped at DVD too... Blue Ray doesn't offer me anything that I can't download from iTunes.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2012, 12:01:03 AM »
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This shows 51-202 watts drawn:
 
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1751/14/
 
 
In order to get a review from a customer, you would have to find a sucker that is going to pay $2500 for a (at best) $1300 computer.  
 
If anyone is going to buy one of these, please show yourself somewhere!  You won't be hurt or flamed - I just want to understand who is motivated to buy one of these.  What is the target market?
 
I don't even see anyone on CUSA's forum that claims they are buying one.  The only thing that will catch fire is the single protype that will eventually get made (since apparantly none exist and they need to photoshop everything).

That power draw is still too much for the PSU and I have to say, thanks for the post, you made me laugh. :D

Maybe in 15 years someone will sell the burnt out prototype on ebay for a thousand bucks.

It was interesting to see how much power calculators exaggerated  the need for wattage however.

This is Thermaltake's calculator:

http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/

 it'll give you a rating over 500W that's for sure. .... Maybe the're trying to sell us something, like a bigger PSU perhaps.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2012, 12:36:33 AM »
Apple has not included a opticle drive with the Mac mini since mid 2011. Which I think really sucks. I would buy the bear bones case from commodore to put a Mac mini board in it for the missing opticle drive.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2012, 12:44:43 AM »
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Apple has not included a opticle drive with the Mac mini since mid 2011. Which I think really sucks. I would buy the bear bones case from commodore to put a Mac mini board in it for the missing opticle drive.


You would really pay a $280 premium just to have a C=/Amiga logo on a case?  A case you can buy on eBay for $65, only diff being a logo?  If so, these guys might have a market after all, lol.

You can buy the external SuperDrive for the Mac mini for $80, directly from Apple.  It's USB and will work with other systems just fine.
 

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2012, 01:04:06 AM »
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You would really pay a $280 premium just to have a C=/Amiga logo on a case?  A case you can buy on eBay for $65, only diff being a logo?  If so, these guys might have a market after all, lol.
That's what amazes me about this whole thing, there actually are people willing to throw away huge chunks of money on nothing more than a sticker and/or etching. I guess these are the kinds of people who keep eBay scalpers in business...
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2012, 01:14:13 AM »
Yup its a undeniable fact that people WILL buy these computers. Either due to nostalgia, wanting a 'unique' product or simply because they have more money than they know what to do with.
 
To me it all feels like Commodore Gaming all over again. Except Commodore Gaming gave us some original cases and better graphics cards. :smack:

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #59 from previous page: March 22, 2012, 01:18:32 AM »
Here is a comparison of the GeForce shipping in the Amiga Mini vs the one included in my high specced iMac 27" i7 which is around 18 months old. Please note the Radeon in my iMac seems very very zippy.

http://www.hwcompare.com/7140/geforce-gt-430-1gb-vs-radeon-hd-4850-x2-512mb/