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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2012, 03:48:15 AM »
If it is a SLI capable motherboard, you can put another card in it.

Bear in mind said card needs to be identical, right down to firmware, manufacturer/brand, die size, etc.  Your PSU would need to be up to snuff as well.

For a 9800, SLI would be a waste IMHO.  Could go out and buy a cheap 600 series card and have 10x the performance of 2 9800's.  Even 2 9800's would not do well at higher resolutions and settings with those games you mentioned, they are 4+ year old graphics cards.
 

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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2012, 07:57:30 AM »
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If it is a SLI capable motherboard, you can put another card in it.

Bear in mind said card needs to be identical, right down to firmware, manufacturer/brand, die size, etc.  Your PSU would need to be up to snuff as well.

For a 9800, SLI would be a waste IMHO.  Could go out and buy a cheap 600 series card and have 10x the performance of 2 9800's.  Even 2 9800's would not do well at higher resolutions and settings with those games you mentioned, they are 4+ year old graphics cards.


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I can see your point, it is a almost 5 years old Card i have found out, i thought it was newer, so it will just be better to buy 1 newer/better instead :)
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2012, 10:24:51 AM »
Go for a Radeon HD 7770 or 6850 and you will be set, I would look at how much you can overclock the CPU with your cooler.

Using that and you can atleast run every game out there, and using that hardware and you will run Borderlands 2 in mixed mid/high settings :)
 

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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2012, 10:48:58 AM »
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Go for a Radeon HD 7770 or 6850 and you will be set, I would look at how much you can overclock the CPU with your cooler.

Using that and you can atleast run every game out there, and using that hardware and you will run Borderlands 2 in mixed mid/high settings :)


Many thanks mate :) There is a a very big cooler in it, the man i purchased it  from, has build it himself with the best things he could get at the time. with blue led light, and 4 Air cooler. He told me he has use around 2000 Dollars on it, but Hardware goes down fast in price.
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2012, 10:55:24 AM »
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Many thanks mate :) There is a a very big cooler in it, the man i purchased it  from, has build it himself with the best things he could get at the time. with blue led light, and 4 Air cooler. He told me he has use around 2000 Dollars on it, but Hardware goes down fast in price.

Your welcome, yes new x86 hardware do go down fast ^^

I just put together a PC by old parts lying around to get as near as possible to your specs to test it out.
I used a Intel Core 2 E6300 1,87GHz, 4GB DDR2 ram and a Geforce GTX 260 GTX (about same speed as a Radeon hd 4870).

Overclocked it to 2,3GHz and teh GFX to 700MHz GPU and 1100MHz vRAM and it ran Borderlands 2 in mid/high settings @1280x1024 so a new card and some overclocking will get you far :)
 

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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2012, 11:02:21 AM »
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Your welcome, yes new x86 hardware do go down fast ^^

I just put together a PC by old parts lying around to get as near as possible to your specs to test it out.
I used a Intel Core 2 E6300 1,87GHz, 4GB DDR2 ram and a Geforce GTX 260 GTX (about same speed as a Radeon hd 4870).

Overclocked it to 2,3GHz and teh GFX to 700MHz GPU and 1100MHz vRAM and it ran Borderlands 2 in mid/high settings @1280x1024 so a new card and some overclocking will get you far :)

But Amiga parts do seem to hold the price :)
I just had a look at Radeon HD 7770 on Ebay it is not to expensive so i think i will go with that. Are there some places you could recommend buying from?
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2012, 11:04:26 AM »
Quote from: Duce;713710
If it is a SLI capable motherboard, you can put another card in it.

Bear in mind said card needs to be identical, right down to firmware, manufacturer/brand, die size, etc.  Your PSU would need to be up to snuff as well.

For a 9800, SLI would be a waste IMHO.  Could go out and buy a cheap 600 series card and have 10x the performance of 2 9800's.  Even 2 9800's would not do well at higher resolutions and settings with those games you mentioned, they are 4+ year old graphics cards.


That is not true as long as its the same gpu and memroy size it does not matter what brand it is just as long as its the same card. I ran 2 8800gt's in SLI one card was zotac and the other BFG and worked brilliantly.
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2012, 11:06:43 AM »
Quote from: som99;713732
Go for a Radeon HD 7770 or 6850 and you will be set, I would look at how much you can overclock the CPU with your cooler.

Using that and you can atleast run every game out there, and using that hardware and you will run Borderlands 2 in mixed mid/high settings :)


Do you know were i can see how much RAM the PC can takes in total? I cannot find it. Or what do you think this System can take in total RAM
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2012, 11:07:32 AM »
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Hi
I can see your point, it is a almost 5 years old Card i have found out, i thought it was newer, so it will just be better to buy 1 newer/better instead :)


Its all good saying you will get a new card but you need to check that your psu can handle it, make sure you have enough amps on the +12v rail(s), does the case have good airflow etc.....? The last thing you want are heat problems.
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2012, 11:16:18 AM »
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Its all good saying you will get a new card but you need to check that your psu can handle it, make sure you have enough amps on the +12v rail(s), does the case have good airflow etc.....? The last thing you want are heat problems.


He has build it himself the man i purchased it from, with the biggest Air cooler he could get, there is 4 in it, and they are huge, he said i never had to worried about it will run hot. As for the power he said it could handle a lot. I am not a expert :) So how can i check amps on it?
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2012, 11:19:28 AM »
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Its all good saying you will get a new card but you need to check that your psu can handle it, make sure you have enough amps on the +12v rail(s), does the case have good airflow etc.....? The last thing you want are heat problems.

Yes the PSU is important, first thing to check is if he even got 6(6+2) pin connectors for PCI-E cards.
Judging from what he is saying that he got a big CPU cooler and a chassi with LEDS ill guess it's a "gaming" chassi with decent airflow.

Tho from experience both the 6850 and 7770 can run in nearly any case if you are using ref coolers that blows out the air in the back brackets. Any midi-tower case with two fan places will be sufficient enough to keep them cool and since he have a big CPU cooler he will be fine, nothing to worry about.

Ive ran a Radeon HD 7970 in a case with one front 120mm fan and one back 120mm fan + PSU outtake without any troubles in stock while I was waiting for my Cooler Master Cosmos II case and that's AMD's fastest single GPU card, sure it ran a bit hot but well under the limit.

EDIT: Saw that Lassie posted before I was done :)


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He has build it himself the man i purchased it from, with the biggest Air cooler he could get, there is 4 in it, and they are huge, he said i never had to worried about it will run hot. As for the power he said it could handle a lot. I am not a expert :) So how can i check amps on it?

Check the PSU, it has a sticker showing the amps on the rails, or just simply write the PSU name and model and ill check it for you :) Any decent 400-450W will have enough AMPs for both cards I wrote as long as they are not cheepo PSUs.

One of my Folding@home machines are running a GTX 670 at full load 24/7 on a 450W PSU that has 38A on the 12v rail, people tend to read the total W and it seems people allways buy a lot bigger PSUs then they need.
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2012, 11:31:02 AM »
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Yes the PSU is important, first thing to check is if he even got 6(6+2) pin connectors for PCI-E cards.
Judging from what he is saying that he got a big CPU cooler and a chassi with LEDS ill guess it's a "gaming" chassi with decent airflow.

Tho from experience both the 6850 and 7770 can run in nearly any case if you are using ref coolers that blows out the air in the back brackets. Any midi-tower case with two fan places will be sufficient enough to keep them cool and since he have a big CPU cooler he will be fine, nothing to worry about.

Ive ran a Radeon HD 7970 in a case with one front 120mm fan and one back 120mm fan + PSU outtake without any troubles in stock while I was waiting for my Cooler Master Cosmos II case and that's AMD's fastest single GPU card, sure it ran a bit hot but well under the limit.

EDIT: Saw that Lassie posted before I was done :)




Check the PSU, it has a sticker showing the amps on the rails, or just simply write the PSU name and model and ill check it for you :) Any decent 400-450W will have enough AMPs for both cards I wrote as long as they are not cheepo PSUs.

One of my Folding@home machines are running a GTX 670 at full load 24/7 on a 450W PSU that has 38A on the 12v rail, people tend to read the total W and it seems people allways buy a lot bigger PSUs then they need.


Hi i can seen on the back the psu is called TX650W
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2012, 11:51:26 AM »
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Hi i can seen on the back the psu is called TX650W


Thas is a good Corsair PSU, low ripple and 52amps on the 12v rail, that PSU can run any single GPU card on the market (I would bet even most SLI/Crossfire setups).

So you got a good solid PSU so go for it :)
 

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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2012, 12:59:30 PM »
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Thas is a good Corsair PSU, low ripple and 52amps on the 12v rail, that PSU can run any single GPU card on the market (I would bet even most SLI/Crossfire setups).

So you got a good solid PSU so go for it :)

That is good to know :) The person i bought it from, seems like a man there will not save money on cheaper stuff. So i think it is true that he bought the best he could get at the time :)

Do you know how i can see how much RAM it can take maximum?
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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2012, 02:35:47 PM »
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That is good to know :) The person i bought it from, seems like a man there will not save money on cheaper stuff. So i think it is true that he bought the best he could get at the time :)

Do you know how i can see how much RAM it can take maximum?


Well since you have a socket AM2 CPU you most likly have the 6xx chipset and then depending on motherboard manufacturer and model (printed in white text on the middelish part of the mobo PCB) you will guaranteed have support for 8GB but odds are you can have 16GBs of RAM (if you only plan to game 8GB will be enough in dual channel, 4x 2GB sticks)

Tell me what motherboard you have, cant you find it on the motherboard download and run CPU-Z and it will tell you under the motherboard tab :)
 

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Re: Geforce 9800 GT
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 03, 2012, 04:21:03 PM »
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Well since you have a socket AM2 CPU you most likly have the 6xx chipset and then depending on motherboard manufacturer and model (printed in white text on the middelish part of the mobo PCB) you will guaranteed have support for 8GB but odds are you can have 16GBs of RAM (if you only plan to game 8GB will be enough in dual channel, 4x 2GB sticks)

Tell me what motherboard you have, cant you find it on the motherboard download and run CPU-Z and it will tell you under the motherboard tab :)


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