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AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« on: July 05, 2013, 03:41:42 AM »
Early BETA video, lots of work to do still (I've only been working on this for a week!)

I fancied doing something a bit less 'heavy' after porting Descent Rebirth and DosBox (both too slow for real HW).  

I'm not sure if this will run ok on 030 yet but I'll give it a go.

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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 03:47:59 AM »
Awesome!!
I'll be waiting (semi-patiently) for a testing beta for my 1230/28 to give it a try..
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 04:06:59 AM »
Sweet :) Just promise me you'll add dedicated strafe keys so I can use a proper WASD layout...
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 04:08:38 AM »
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Sweet :) Just promise me you'll add dedicated strafe keys so I can use a proper WASD layout...


I'll see what I can do :)
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2013, 07:21:08 AM »
Nice port with sound!

The Wolf3D Amiga port available so far is very good speedwise, but unfortunately has no sound, which makes the game difficult to play.

I don't agree with the need of a WASD layout (which is more like ZQSD on my french keyboard by the way :-) ).
This game is meant for the directional keys, or else a joystick/gamepad/mouse.
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2013, 10:04:58 AM »
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Nice port with sound!

The Wolf3D Amiga port available so far is very good speedwise, but unfortunately has no sound, which makes the game difficult to play.

I don't agree with the need of a WASD layout (which is more like ZQSD on my french keyboard by the way :-) ).
This game is meant for the directional keys, or else a joystick/gamepad/mouse.

Thanks :)

It might even have music as well (either MUS format like DOOM or digital like the SFX, not sure yet).

You'll be able use the sounds from different versions of the game (eg the Jaguar port) with this Amiga port, this is done by using the WolfExractor from http://wolf3dredux.sourceforge.net/

This is actually a massive hack, it's based on the PSP SDL port with bits of WolfRedux and Quake 2 mixed in.

It should support Wolf + Spear of Destiny (full game and shareware)
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 10:32:14 AM »
Awesome work there Nova :)
I remember playing Wolfenstein on my FAST RAM A1200 via PCTask :D It was just a show acutally for laughs and hahas. This now... is some serious gaming :)
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2013, 11:02:13 AM »
060 Rulez 4evar! :cool:
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2013, 11:15:18 AM »
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Nice port with sound!

The Wolf3D Amiga port available so far is very good speedwise, but unfortunately has no sound, which makes the game difficult to play.


With my old 040/25 it wasn't very fast, in fact it ran like Doom, something slow IMHO as Wolf3D is quite simpler and ran even on an old 286. Mac version was quite faster than Amiga version, it's a pity that Mac sources aren't available.

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A port of the AtariST version would rock, perhaps Ray//tscc could help with the port, his relation with Amiga community is good, IIRC he ported various TBL demos to Atari Falcon.
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2013, 11:23:36 AM »
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A port of the AtariST version would rock, perhaps Ray//tscc could help with the port, his relation with Amiga community is good, IIRC he ported various TBL demos to Atari Falcon.

It was actually Mikro who ported the TBL-demos for the Falcon. But yeah, Ray's ST wolf3d is pretty impressive.
 

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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2013, 11:43:56 AM »
I've reviewed 4 ways to play Wolfenstein 3D on an Amiga at the above link.

http://www.amibay.com/showpost.php?p=432783&postcount=35

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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2013, 03:32:53 PM »
@Xanxi

Using Shapeshifter to play Mac lo-res games on my A1200 was easy: I used to use a 320x256 8bit screenmode for a scrollable 640x480 screen, that way it was full screen and fast. Fusion didn't allow setting screenmodes as precisely as Shapeshifter hence it was not my favourite choice for AGA (With RTG on the other hand I prefered Fusion)
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2013, 07:27:15 PM »
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It might even have music as well (either MUS format like DOOM or digital like the SFX, not sure yet).
This would be totally sweet, but there's one tricky bit - Wolfenstein uses iD's IMF format, which is not MIDI-based (unlike DOOM's MUS format) and OPL-specific. However, there is an IMF-to-MIDI converter, with source, so if you could work that into the code (and add customizable instrument maps) you could just shoot the resulting data out over the serial port to an MT-32 or something.

Of course, on the big-box Amigas you could add the option of just directly using an OPL2 on a PC sound card over a bridgeboard...
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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2013, 07:28:37 PM »
Semi-related question: I downloaded the ECS version of Wolf3D a few weeks ago ( http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/ecswolf3d ) but couldn't get it to run and of course in typical Amiga-fashion there was no instructions.  ;)  Starting up it asked for some specific type of file which I had to Google (sorry, not in front of my Amiga at the moment), turns out I needed the executable and data files from PC version of Wolfenstein, I believe?  Downloaded such off of some shady site online but it still wouldn't run after I dumped them into the game directory, did nothing, no errors, however if I tried to do something else afterward I'd get a visit from the guru.  ;)

So question is, where do I download the Wolfenstein source files for use on an Amiga?  Is this game old enough yet that they've dropped into the public domain, or do I have to rip an executable off an old PC somewhere?

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Re: AmiWolf AGA - new Wolfenstein 3D Port
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2013, 07:52:50 PM »
Awesome!
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