I like the current one.
Also, how are they both related to the Amiga? I'm not seeing it...
As for the font... Why does a font have to be "related" to the Amiga?
Why shouldn't it be related? AROS has Amiga roots, correct?
Why shouldn't it be related? AROS has Amiga roots, correct?
You still haven't explained why it needs to be "related". Roots maybe, but both have long since gone their separate ways.
If it's simply that you don't like the font, fine, but I don't get why you keep using the above word.
Second shot (changes to the fletching):
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/aros7.png)
What does the Klingon font have to do with the cat?
You still haven't explained why it needs to be "related". Roots maybe, but both have long since gone their separate ways.
If it's simply that you don't like the font, fine, but I don't get why you keep using the above word.
Think back to the first computers you knew. For many, their first acquaintance came in the 1980s...
What do you think?
Forgive me, Alan, but WHY is it necessary that he explain that to you?
This is a public forum
I was asking, I was curious as to know where he was coming from on this.
Apparently one where if you dare to ask questions you get pounced on.
Perhaps, but your insistence that he explain it to you in light of a fairly obvious answer made it seem you were pouncing on him.
RE Belial6 bang on. The new logo is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
well, one has gone its way and the other isn't going anywhere at all :)
I am prepared to be wrong, but I don't suspect there's a lot of AROS use outside of ex-amiga users.
It was the the repeated reference to the font needing to be "related" that throws me.
If I pounce on someone I do so in a way that is clear and unmistakable. There will be copious image macros and mockery involved, it will be harsh, possibly funny in a dark sort of way, but you'll know it when you see it. Bring popcorn :)
Not exactly aros use but I was suprised to see Aros included in the other os's listing in a computer book I have at home. I don't know if the authors are ex-amiga but it is possible I suppose. Or they were just searching for any and all other os's.
As for this discussion I think that Aros can go both ways.
There is no real reason that Aros can not be the user friendly, small, good looking os that linux tries to be. Linux is Unix and is complex, confusing in many ways to newcomers, and is splitting more and more between the distros. If Aros had a good easy to use and complete web browser, Office package, and printing utilities, my Mom would use it right now. Whereas one of my brothers (an anti-MS linux fanatic) tried to setup linux for her and it ended up being to much for her.
Aros can also be the AmigaOs related os for all us ex and current amiga users. Slick and smooth with built-in UAE and all the nostalgia we can muster (anyone got an old a4000t case I could abuse?)
All that said, I don't really care about logos. Case badges are where I'm at, but I like them simple and clean.
No it isn't. The Amiga checkmark is a long abandoned trademark that can be used by anyone for anything at this point.
If you wanna know what I think, well you probably don't but that's never stopped me before :lol: I reckon it looks a tad dodgy, kinda like something cobbled together in mspaint.
That is simply untrue. Amiga products are still being sold that have the Amiga check mark. Every copy of Amiga Forever that sells is being sold with the kickstart roms which show the Amiga Trademark on boot.And? As I wrote, anyone can use it for anything at this point. The only reason why the checkmark is there on boot is because kickstart 3.1 (well, 2.0 really) had it there, and replacing it is not something as trivial as replacing some bitmap.
So, even if you ignore the fact that IP law is completely out of wack in such a way that you might get sued even if the trademark is abandoned, it wouldn't apply to the check mark since it is still in use.
I made this just for fun::lol: you do deserve some respect for this :)
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/cat4_800.png)
A close up:
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/cat4_cropped.png)
I made this just for fun:I likes :)
I think it looks pritty good next to the intel inside sticker, it basicly my old avatar I made, which any one is welcome to.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/amigang/Aros_blink2.gif)
The arrow is resting on the wrong side of the bow - the arrow will bounce off and she'll most likely miss whatever she's aiming for. I just wanted to point that out :)
And? As I wrote, anyone can use it for anything at this point. The only reason why the checkmark is there on boot is because kickstart 3.1 (well, 2.0 really) had it there, and replacing it is not something as trivial as replacing some bitmap.
That someone use it does not mean that it's a valid trademark. Noone has legally cared about the checkmark since the days of Amiga Technologies GMBH and Amiga OS 3.1 when it was featured on the reprinted manuals (original OS3.0 and 3.1 manuals had no checkmark on them, only the 5 colour stroke). The checkmark was abandoned in favour of the boingball once Amiga International came along, and along with the written escom "AMIGA" the boingball has been the only protected logo since.
I've had T-shirts made with Amiga checkmarks on (nice indigo coloured ones), various Amiga related sites use it - it's been public domain more or less since CBM was around to care. I have yet to hear about _anyone_ even getting note about use of Amiga checkmark. And from whom would such a note come from anyways? Cloanto? Amiga Inc? Haha - dream on. The boingball on the other hand, has been the subject of many threats throughout the years.
And anyhow - the Amiga checkmark exists in so many variants, that it doesn't really work well as a legal logo. The one I use on my excellent T-shirts have the coloured version of this one (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2168) on them, which is quite accurate compared to the one found on A1000. Opposed to the one used in bootscreens (which is limited due to hardware).
But by all means, if you think I'm wrong, feel free to sue me for infringement, or talk Cloanto or whoever into doing so.
Since you wanna draw allusions to AROS's roots, maybe switch the bull's eye for a (red and white checkered) dart board? Just a thought. :)
Shooting an arrow at a dart board doesn't sound logical to me...
Neither does a black furry cat to represent the Amiga Legacy. :)
Wow. I didn't know it was that serious an issue. :)
AngloSaxonUSA originally wanted to create a logo that tied AROS to it's Amiga past. I don't really see that Eric is a direct part of that past, and even if he is, the Kitty logo does not clearly represent it in a way that ASUSA desires.
I think AROS doesn't need a logo or a mascot makeover.
Perhaps Icaros needs one badly. I don't like being stared by a scary eye.
And, I thought the cat's eye was the graphical logo.
Am I the only one who pronounce AROS as "aye-rows"? To me, the whole arrow thing doesn't make any sense.
A-Ross?
If your IP is still being sold with the trademark on it, it is still in use.
How easy or hard it is to remove is irrelevant to the fact that it is still being used on products that are still being sold. The fact that there is more than one trademark does not make it legal for you to use. The fact that you use it without getting sued does not make it legal for you to get used. That fact that I think it SHOULD be legal to use does not make it legal to use.
Of course, the point that you challenge ME to sue you for a trademark that someone else owns indicates that either you have absolutely no clue what a trademark is, you are intentionally misstating your position in a hope to derail reasonable conversation.
Anyone who had any clue what a trademark was, would know that only the owners of the trademark, or maybe someone they licensed the rights to would have any claim to sue over a trademark.And as I've mentioned umpteen times now, noone owns that trademark, as isn't a trademark anymore. They have since _long_ failed the obligations they had as trademark owners to protect it as a trademark. The ticker was replaced with the boing ball all over the place, with OS4.0 it also replaced the ticker in the boot screen, and that's already plenty of years ago.
In this discussion, I am on the defendants team. Or more accurately, suggesting that the group I want sticking around, not become defendants in a legal preceding. It would be stupid for the AROS group to use a mark that in anyway could lead to legal trouble when there is nothing to gain by doing it.
I made this just for fun:
(...)
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/cat4_cropped.png)
I've a small blog in that I write about AROS development, technical aspects, features and some PR from time to time...
(http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CaricaFoto%28%22http://aros.sourceforge.net/downloads/kitty/aros02_big.png%22%29;)
But my last post is all about AROS mascot Kitty... A well known character of the community but has been forgoten for a while and does not gather the sympathy of newer (and even some older) AROS users/fans!
So it's time time to address that - read the full post on:
Blog post - AROS Kitty! (http://aros-wandering.blogspot.com/2010/12/aros-kitty-sexy-and-so-lost.html)
I believe that AROS mascot needs more work such as the one from anglosaxonusa. Great work!
@anglosaxonusa
Do you made this with a vector art package? Can you provide the vector file if so?
Third shot:
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/aros4b.png)
Detail shot 1:
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/aros4d.png)
Detail shot 2:
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/aros4c.png)
The image appears to read well at a small scale:
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/aros4h.png)
The heart is a play on "Eros" (love) and the assorted cupid connotations. The arrow is a phonetic play on AROS. The target-"O" is a foil for the arrow. The drawing of the cat "arching" links the logo with the mascot, and the mascot herself, links with Eros through her sexyness.
The image (like the drawing of the cat) are scalable vector graphics and can be scaled to any size. I'm using photobucket to host the svgs as pngs, which caused some quality loss in what you see.
What do you think?
Brilliant! I'll see what I can come up with...
I tried integrating the gradient into the arrowshaft but it didn't come out right. The yellow shaft seems to work a lot better than rainbow gradient when tying it all together:
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb462/anglosaxonusa/aros3a.png)
Me too.
Perhaps you could have a picture of a Norwegian river's mouth. Much more etymological.
more features first. Logo later.
What's the current status of UAE integration? Can I double click on a 68k binary file, let's say, deluxe paint, powerpacker or turbo imploder and it will open up on an AROS window?
Compatibility with other video cards would also be a good solution. Running it on a virtual machine is SOOOOO boring
I like the current one.
(http://aros-exec.org/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/11451/normal_Scanned%20Document.jpg)
How about this for a mascot?it is horrible!
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac5/Tom98915/movig%20gifs/badger-animated.gif)
There's always the banana...
How about this for a mascot?
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac5/Tom98915/movig%20gifs/badger-animated.gif)
How about this for a mascot?
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac5/Tom98915/movig%20gifs/badger-animated.gif)
A Ross:
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2008/07/02/ross460.jpg)