A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4

[haywirepc]

Nr of Frames skipped: 2844 (66%)

Wow thats bad. Yes I think overlay is needed.

[metalmac]

There is a god solution for al AmigaOS 4 users, use Radeon 9xxx card and you have Overlay and 3D suport right now.
There are many cards on eBay for next to nothing.

[Duce]

An 11 year old 9200 isn't much of an option for a modern PPC Amiga like the X1000.

I had one in my SAM 440ep and took it out cause it wasn't any better than the onboard, tbh.  That being said, I don't watch videos on the machine.

[takemehomegrandma]

nikosidis said:

If your native monitor res.. is 1024x768 and you play a video that is in that res.. overlay might not gain you much, but lets say a video or mame game in 320x240 that you scale to fullscreen will bring a huge difference cause with overlay you don't use cpu for scaling the image.

So again!!! What is the point saying that overlay is out and something that does not exist at least not with Gallium3D is in!!!!!!!!!

Someone is playing your minds. It is like some of you take everything written by Hyperion or whatever as the holly truth. I'm not saying that it is a lie that mothern OS don't use overlay anymore, but that is simply not a choise right now for Amiga or alternatives.

Listen up.

I'm a AROS user. We had Gallium 3D For a couple of years now. What I miss most on AROS is video overlay. Got it!!!

[takemehomegrandma]

Jupp3 said:

Proves the point that you can live without overlay or the like with a fast CPU for now .

Good point right there.

I wonder why no-one noticed earier that we don't actually even need this forthcoming "full MESA-based hardware accelerated 3D", as we can just do it all in software instead. There are several working MESA versions on aminet already.

Good point. The guy's X1000 is struggling with a standard DVD resolution because of the lack of overlay, and he comes to the conclusion that overlay isn't needed because everything can be handled by the CPU, that's a big LOL. This is becoming a farce!

:crazy:

Crumb said:

720x304, full screen, thank you, with no overlay.

Impressive! Outstanding! Just like my Efika at 400Mhz with no dma access to HD! Depending on compression used even a CSPPC with Frogger may be able to achieve that.

FYI, people is watching youtube HD videos directly on OWB on MorphOS thanks to overlay, try that on your x1000.

A good point. AFAIK the Efika is using less than 90% of the CPU at full screen DVD resolution playback (mpeg2), it's a "G2" class CPU running at only 400MHz, and it has one or two severe bottlenecks. The fastest OS4 computer, the $3000 X1000, drops frames when doing the same. Probably not the same codec though, I'll give them that, but had the OS4 machine been using overlay, it would have been no problems whatsoever.

Obsolete? Yeah right...


sundown said:

720x304, full screen, thank you, with no overlay. I will admit, a 1080p vid is a different story at the moment.

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Still be nice to have overlay support, 1080p HDs would probably play without skipping.

Another big LOL there. He just showed a DVD resolution encoded video that during 3 minutes playback actually skipped a frame, and he starts talking about 1080p as it would be like "the next step" and within reach? The guy probably thinks his 720 x 304 res clip equals to 720p HD, which of course it doesn't (it's a standard DVD resolution encoding, with *quite a leap* (to say the least) up to 1280×720, and the 1920x1080 being way off the charts of course).

The X1000 has shown similar CPU performance as the upper G4 Macs. Forget 1080p. 720p should be possible though, with overlay of course!

:lol:

[gertsy]

I wonder how much it will cost to get those cards supported in AROS...

Took a sec.  But Im there now...

[vox]

An 11 year old 9200 isn't much of an option for a modern PPC Amiga like the X1000.

I had one in my SAM 440ep and took it out cause it wasn't any better than the onboard, tbh.  That being said, I don't watch videos on the machine.

No RadeonHD is way faster in 2D, something can be done via Wazp3D and Composting and when full 3D comes it will be fastest ever on Amiga

Patience, my dear Watson (or young Padawan?)

[vox]

Jupp3 said:

The X1000 has shown similar CPU performance as the upper G4 Macs. Forget 1080p. 720p should be possible though, with overlay of course!

:lol:

Again, do tests under e.g. Mint 11 or Debian Squeeze on both G4 Mac and dual core PA Semi, and let us know of results. MOS vs OS4 isnt realistic just because MOS is way better optimized, so you cant tell it is up to the hardware.