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Amiga.org specific forums => Amiga.org Discussion and Site Feedback => Topic started by: kedawa on September 29, 2010, 02:46:57 AM
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I'm not sure how long it's been like this, since I don't frequent amiga.org all that often, but I've noticed over the past couple of months that it takes a long time to load any page on the site. I'm talking about anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple of minutes. I know it's not a problem with my connection, because I've had the same problem at work, so I would be surprised if I'm the only one experiencing this.
Is there anything I can do on my end to speed things up?
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It flies for me on any connection I've tried it from.
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The speed of this site seems to vary greatly for me lately. Some times it is very fast, but more often than not it is horribly slow.
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Always fast for me and I travel all over the world.
For me it's usually my crappy hotel internet not individual sites.
DLH
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fine here. i use free dns.
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no problem here. Check you have the caching option on. If you a reloading the whole site everytime you visit that would explain the load time.
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I've been on virtually every day and haven't noticed any problems.
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It's fast here too. Your connection may be fine, but how is your ISP doing?
I used to have poor speeds at times when we used Fios for an ISP. But our current provider is fast.
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No problems here.
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Same here no probs here I use DSL..:laughing:
Chris :furious:
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It was okay for a while but it's gotten ridiculously slow again over the past week. I just don't get it. Everything else is working just fine; other wbsites, p2p transfers, online gaming, etc. It's just this site that chokes, even when nothing else is using bandwidth. I'm sure it'll be fine again at some point, but it's very frustrating.
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Well it is quite evident the problem is not in amiga.org but somewhere else.
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Perhaps a month ago I did experience similar behaviour - but now OK for several weeks.
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The problem is that there is too many fanatic of AMIGA here: they use all the bandwidth :biglaugh:
So it's a good news!
[size=-2](We need $millions$ to buy AMIGA Inc.)[/size]
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In the past I've had a bit of a slowdown now and again and it has always turned out to be a DNS issue and nothing to do with the site itself.
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It's a mixed bag where I am and I too use DSL. I notice it takes the longest when logging in. Pretty inconsistent speed wise, but more fast than it is slow at least :)
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It's actually gotten better since I last posted in this thread.
Well it is quite evident the problem is not in amiga.org but somewhere else.
The problem only affects amiga.org, but not everyone is experiencing the same issue, so I'm not really sure how to isolate the problem. My connection is fine, the site is fine, but accessing the site through my connection is not fine much of the time.
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There can be loads of different issues. But, here on the east coast (Greater Washington D.C. area) is consistently fast.
I would bet your provider is ultimately at fault. This is why we canned FIOS (well, one of the reasons)...
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The problem only affects amiga.org, but not everyone is experiencing the same issue, so I'm not really sure how to isolate the problem. My connection is fine, the site is fine, but accessing the site through my connection is not fine much of the time.
I also have the same issue, and I am in the other side of the planet with a 6 Meg DSL conection, that works pretty well with everything else I surf, and I do surf quite a lot.
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One thing that can slow sites way down is web trackers. You can see this for yourself with the Firefox and Safari Ad-on Ghostery.
http://www.ghostery.com/
Many sites even use several trackers and Ad platforms and this can slow them way down. We use no web trackers and only one Ad platform, Google Adsense and this is only for none premium members. We do this to keep the site fast and responsive and we don't want to track our users. Others sites like Gizmodo, MSN, Engaget can use up to 16 or more. Even MS has 5 on their main site. This seems strange as most commercial corporate company sites have zero.
You might want to grab Ghostery and have a look around. You might just be surprised what you find and this Ad-on gives you some control over how sites track you.
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I've never had any problems with this site running slow, and I've only got a max of 2.6mbps & 0.6mbps download/upload speed on this old iMac... :)
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It's pretty fast, but not always.
Sometimes there are moments it sort of 'hangs' a bit and no my internet is fast enough @ 120/10 Mbit.
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I'm not sure how long it's been like this, since I don't frequent amiga.org all that often, but I've noticed over the past couple of months that it takes a long time to load any page on the site. I'm talking about anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple of minutes. I know it's not a problem with my connection, because I've had the same problem at work, so I would be surprised if I'm the only one experiencing this.
Is there anything I can do on my end to speed things up?
Hi,
It has been sort of slow lately, probably because they are using a mac as a server. It probably would be faster if they upgraded to a C64.
smerf
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Hi,
It has been sort of slow lately, probably because they are using a mac as a server. It probably would be faster if they upgraded to a C64.
smerf
I think if you have a good Core I7 or Xeon combined with some fast SATA hdd's or SAS's and a stable connection with some upload speed, you should be good.
vBulletin isn't that heavy to run, even if it has a large DB.
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I've been experiencing slowdowns the last 48 hours which for once are nothing to do with my ISPs DNS. It isn't just my local connection either, the old browser proxy has logged timeout errors in the cURL requests that fetch the pages from amiga.org. Whatever it is, it certainly isn't due to trackers since the proxy itself doesn't execute any javascript code.
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I've been experiencing slowdowns the last 48 hours which for once are nothing to do with my ISPs DNS. It isn't just my local connection either, the old browser proxy has logged timeout errors in the cURL requests that fetch the pages from amiga.org. Whatever it is, it certainly isn't due to trackers since the proxy itself doesn't execute any javascript code.
Is there any possibility it might be a DOS attack or brute force hack attempt on the server?
It might be interesting to check the firewall logs.
I remember the relentless attacks I used to get on my server not too long ago coming from all sorts of weird and wonderful places.
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Is there any possibility it might be a DOS attack or brute force hack attempt on the server?
It might be interesting to check the firewall logs.
I remember the relentless attacks I used to get on my server not too long ago coming from all sorts of weird and wonderful places.
Well, it's a shared server, so it's possible the box itself is under load even if this site is not the specific target.
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Ooops!!!
It happens to me too... and I'm on cable...
I tried at other locations (at work, at my mum's house...), and just the same...
It smells bad... :(
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Finaly been experiencing it myself since yesterday, at first I thought Amiga.org had been shut down then I began to think that Karlos had found a way of blocking me from accessing the site and prevent me posting a load of keech... :lol:
It took three goes just now to try and access the site as it was taking so long Safari kept locking up with the dread "application not responding" error... :(
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Okay, now it is ridiculously slow :(
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Okay, now it is ridiculously slow :(
Oddly enough, it's fine again here :-/
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Well, it's a shared server, so it's possible the box itself is under load even if this site is not the specific target.
I checked the load averages during a period where it went slow for me, there was nothing to indicate the box was under undue load.
However, the following mtr report isn't exactly glowing (indicates problems with my ISP's routing rather than the site itself):
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 192.168.0.1 0.0% 68 0.4 0.4 0.4 0.6 0.0
// snip lossless hops //
5. ae1-0.loncr4.London.opentransit.net 41.2% 68 192.0 190.1 111.3 395.6 58.4 <-- WTF?
6. tengige0-5-5-0.lontr1.London.opentransit.net 0.0% 68 45.6 53.9 44.6 176.8 20.8
tengige0-10-4-0.lontr1.London.opentransit.net
tengige0-13-1-0.lontr1.London.opentransit.net
tengige0-0-1-0.lontr1.London.opentransit.net
tengige0-2-0-0.lontr1.London.opentransit.net
tengige0-7-0-0.lontr1.London.opentransit.net
7. xe-3-1.r01.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net 2.9% 68 46.5 66.2 44.4 238.6 42.5
// snip lossless hops //
18. nubira.websitewelcome.com 0.0% 67 160.3 158.2 152.2 185.6 5.7
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@ Karlos
Been doing a bit of calculating on how to beat your High Score (Number of posts)... :)
Now assuming that I only sleep on average 3 hours per day and you only sleep for around two minutes in any 24 hour period, if i were to quadruple my posting rate and hope that you get writers cramp and your internet connection goes down at least once a month for the next 36 years and taking into account that you spend a bit more care & time than me preparing and cooking your Vindaloos... :)
Then I calculate that on Saturday June the 23rd 2046 (by which time I'll be a sprightly 82), I should have beaten your High score by one single solitary post... :banana:
(The wildcard in my calculation though is, I have to hope the this site slow down affects you more than me and I get a wee bit jammy and can log in quicker...) :lol:
He he, can't wait... :roflmao:
(Drat, you've just sneaked two more post's in while I was typing this... :( )
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@Karlos
So what can it be?
I have tested my conection speed in 3 different sites, and it is okay.
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In my case, I strongly suspect the problem is down to my ISP. It isn't the first time problems their end has screwed with my access, but it's interesting to note I'm not alone.
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@ Karlos
Been doing a bit of calculating on how to beat your High Score (Number of posts)... :)
You: Posts Per Day: 7.88
Me: Posts Per Day: 4.86
Pretty sure you'll be the top poster soon enough at that rate. Having said that, I had more than one protracted period in which I barely posted for months on end.
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I've been getting random slowdown on Amiga.org for the past few days now, can take up to 10 seconds logging in. Mostly happens when first logging in but as I say, it is random. All other net access is fine.
ISP = Virgin Media @ 50mb.
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In my case, I strongly suspect the problem is down to my ISP. It isn't the first time problems their end has screwed with my access, but it's interesting to note I'm not alone.
HI,
@Karlos,
I now notice that Amiga.org only slows down when you are on the system, so could it possibly be you that is slowing down the system. If that is the case, we could hold an experiment and ask you to stay off the system for a year, by then we should have definate results.
smerf
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I know that some users have complained of unusual slowdowns, but it seems that every now and again in the last few days, I get a 500 error page every now and again, which never used to happen.
Anybody else had this issue lately?
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I've had that error about 3 times in recent days but at the same time all the other "slowdown" problems I'd been having have disappeared and the site's now running better than ever for me... :)
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Meant to say... leave a tab open on your browser at the "online users" page it seems to crop up there after a while... :)
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Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
I see this one a couple of times a day.
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@ Tone007
That's the very bugger I see quite often in recent days... :(
Noticed though it mostly happens (if you look in the Who's Online section) that it usually happens when the site is being spammed by lots of "folk" trying to register, not sure if that is the cause of it... :)
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This one just popped up about 2 minutes ago
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Snapshot2011-06-0922-30-54.jpg)
Simplest way to get it to appear is leave a tab open at the "who's online" page and it should appear after a while... :)
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Seeing the below quite a bit lately here on amiga.org, just browsing the site. Doesn't seem to matter if I'm logged in or not.
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at amiga.org Port 80
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Yes, I flagged this up the other day. From what I can tell, it's a dodgy vBulletin hook. From a developer's point of view, vBulletin makes use of one of the nastiest PHP features ever conceived, namely the dreaded eval() (http://php.net/manual/en/function.eval.php) call.
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I think the problem is becoming more frequent too.
(also: theads merged)
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It seems an old bug has resurfaced:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/project.php?issueid=62
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Right, so last night I disabled a vBulletin module that may be responsible for some of the 500 errors.
The thing is, it's tricky to diagnose with precision (since there may be other factors at work), so we'll have to keep an eye on the error log to see if it was the cause or at least a significant factor.
I had one or two since, but nothing like as many as previously. How's everybody else doing?
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Been 3 in past few hours I've been on...
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Right, so last night I disabled a vBulletin module that may be responsible for some of the 500 errors.
The thing is, it's tricky to diagnose with precision (since there may be other factors at work), so we'll have to keep an eye on the error log to see if it was the cause or at least a significant factor.
I had one or two since, but nothing like as many as previously. How's everybody else doing?
Seen it for days. Just saw it again. Refreshed the page and it appeared again.
#6
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Just once during the last week, some slowdowns noticed but not so severe.
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For the past several months the site has been loading unbearably slowly for me.
There is nothing wrong with my ISP or the DNS I'm using, and I can ping the site with reasonable results.
The server just isn't pumping the bits fast enough. It takes up to a minute to load any page. Just as before, no other site is giving me issues, the problem persists even when I'm using different internet connections in different cities, and whenever I've encountered these types of problems with other forums I visit, it was confirmed to be the server at fault.
I just can't deal with this anymore. It's not worth the frustration.
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Amiga.org has over 8 billion members served. If they are all on at the same time it slows down the site.
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That's a lot of pancakes.
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In my case, I strongly suspect the problem is down to my ISP. It isn't the first time problems their end has screwed with my access, but it's interesting to note I'm not alone.
i have some slowdown from here too and sometime an "internal server error" page.
I'll take a screengrab next time it happens.
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Wow, I feel lucky now. I'm accessing the site through a spit-wad of an ISP that is all through satellites (Iraq to Norway, now to Kuwait) and then bounced all over creation.
I have never had a problem getting onto or navigating speed-wise this site without their being another issue like dense cloud cover or strong winds.
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Just now when opening several tabs some don't load but need to be stopped and reloaded to get them to work.
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Mine is considerably slow. I think it started around the time of the great switch over a while ago. I'd say 1 in 3 or 4 times my browser times out. I know it's Amiga.org because all my other internet surfing is lightning fast.
P.s. what's the fastest cat in the world? :kitty:
MEEEOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!
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Been experiencing some 500 errors again tonight along with some slowdown. Just though I would make you guys aware. They all seemed to be around 1am - 3am GMT.
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Slowdowns just now.
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It's quite fast here. Are we just lucky in the greater Washington D.C. area? Better providers? Who knows, as long as it works...
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I've also noticed A.org slowing down recently when everything else is fine. Too many variables, it comes and goes in waves, A.org is no different to any other site on the web - these things just happen from time to time for no reason.
Perhaps the server is chill-axing or whatever they say these days now that Franko has slowed his post-count. xD
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Sometimes the pages refuse to display fully until i hit the 'cancel' button on Opera.
Very strange, suspect it's something to do with the ads...
Unfortunately I have to run the IE gauntlet then.
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Typical LAMP applications, MySQL server is the weakest link. You can turn on the slow query log and find out what sorts of SELECTs are occurring and how long they take after a predetermined threshold, in seconds.
Can it cause users to experience slow downs? It most certainly will. In the right, um, undesirable conditions.
Amiga.org is interesting case because it does almost as many writes as it does reads. Well, reads will always be higher of course (Franko is on vacation I understand). And some of the most common requests can be cached and should be (like the front page loading).
Personally, only have had few searches get hung up, but try again and they succeed. That's a MySQL issue, not your connection, not PHP.
Of course there are other considerations as to the setup, hosting, hardware and a hundred other factors, so my recommendation as professional web developer is to reload the page.
:roflmao:
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TheGoose (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=827)
Personally, only have had few searches get hung up, but try again and they succeed.
That's how it is for me a little slow or I click again and off it goes :confused: but not enuf to annoy me though ,using win 7 64 -fire fox .
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TheGoose (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=827)
That's how it is for me a little slow or I click again and off it goes :confused: but not enuf to annoy me though ,using win 7 64 -fire fox .
Other thing that may be causing odd periodical slowdowns (for visitors) are:
cron jobs - you can look that up yourself.
scheduled database backups (usually running late at night, but where is late night you might ask - timezone), depending on how big the databases is; Amiga.org I would be frightened to know.
So the site is alive, doing its own things at times, like pooping. And you just walking in on it doing that, and it slams the door shut, I'm pooping!
Does that help?
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cron jobs - you can look that up yourself.
Cron is a time-based job scheduler in Unix-like computer operating systems. Cron enables users to schedule jobs (commands or shell scripts) to run periodically at certain times or dates. It is commonly used to automate system maintenance or administration, though its general-purpose nature means that it can be used for other purposes, such as connecting to the Internet and downloading email.
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So the site is alive, doing its own things at times, like pooping. And you just walking in on it doing that, and it slams the door shut, I'm pooping!
Does that help?
That is the greatest analogy I have ever seen for stuff like this :roflmao:
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Sometimes the pages refuse to display fully until i hit the 'cancel' button on Opera.
Very strange, suspect it's something to do with the ads...
Unfortunately I have to run the IE gauntlet then.
It has nothing to do with Ads, we blame Windows.
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Hi,
The only thing I see slow on Amiga.org is the people, especially that Franko character who is always on meds, then there is Karlos, magnetic, JJ, commodorejohn, magnetic, and then their is a really slow person named kesa.
oh well it is what it is.
smerf
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Amiga.org has over 8 billion members served. If they are all on at the same time it slows down the site.
Hi,
YEAH RIGHT!!!
Amiga.org ain't McDonalds you know.
You make em big joke.
smerf
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It has nothing to do with Ads, we blame Windows.
Oh no! Amiga.org is WAMP not LAMP.
Or maybe WIMP , like I run ! :lol:
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Oh no! Amiga.org is WAMP not LAMP.
Or maybe WIMP , like I run ! :lol:
No Amiga.org runs on Linux. Everyone that seems to be having problems accessing it though is using Windows.
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No Amiga.org runs on Linux. Everyone that seems to be having problems accessing it though is using Windows.
HUH!!!
Probably using those darn MACS, they would slow down any site. Rather use a Radio Shack TRS 80 then a MAC, at least it would have some class.
People in the KNOW use a PC with Linux and Windows for Cloanto's Amiga Forever.
smerf
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No Amiga.org runs on Linux. Everyone that seems to be having problems accessing it though is using Windows.
Just to let you nkow i have tried with several systems today..
Windows - Slow with 500's
Linux - Slow
iPad - Slow
BlackBerry OS 6 - Lets not go there lol :lol:
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@smerf
You laugh now but we are upgrading Amiga.org to a TRS 80 web server in the near future.
:)
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@CritAnime:
I hear what you're saying but I'm not getting the same issues. I wonder if there is something between your ISP and A.ORG that isn't jiving. I've had that happen before with Software Hut. For some crazy reason, I couldn't access their site directly from my home PC, but my neighbors on a different service had no problems...
Just a thought since it seems to be a minority of people having this issue.
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@smerf
You laugh now but we are upgrading Amiga.org to a TRS 80 web server in the near future.
:)
Hi,
Model I or Model II, it does make a difference you know.
smerf
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@smerf
You laugh now but we are upgrading Amiga.org to a TRS 80 web server in the near future.
:)
Always thinking ahead, that's what I like about this place. :lol:
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Hi,
Model I or Model II, it does make a difference you know.
smerf
I'd go for the Model 100. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80_Model_100)
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What's up with this? This seems to happen a lot...
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Just got my first 500 error 40 mins ago.
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I've been tracking everyone's posted problems and traced them back to one unifying factor... THE DAY FRANKO LEFT!!!!
I can only figure that now that Franko is no longer issuing posts at speeds faster then Superman, the owners of the ISP housing the server has cut back the bandwidth and it is now TOO low for normal traffic!
There is only one way to get things back to working status... WE MUST FIND AND RECONNECT FRANKO TO THE INNERWEBZ!!!
Now, for this quest I'll need two humans; one a ranger with identity issues and the other a warrior that can't keep his hands off of jewelry; a dwarf played by a much taller man; An elf with a British accent who likes to play with pirates; and four hobbits; an idiot, the idiot’s friend who is only marginally smarter, a failure of a college footballer, and one who has such a large gap in his teeth, people confuse him with the mad hatter.
"TOGETHER WE STAND! DIVIDED WE PAY EQUAL PORTIONS OF THE PIZZA BILL!"
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I'm getting errors and slowness here as well. Its not my ISP or computer because I'm getting the same thing on my computer at work.
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Aye, very slow here as well, with the occasional error.
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I've identified what may be the cause of most of the 500 errors. It's an old bug, originally reported by Piru:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/project.php?issueid=62
This is the fault of a 3rd party module that the site is which uses a vBulletin "hook" (injects some code) that thanks to a lack of sanity checking fails fatally on evaluation, causing the 500 error.
Disabling the module is not an option for now, I've added a quick work-around (injects the required sanity checks into the hook - lol, injecting the injected code...) that should hopefully mitigate the issue until such time that the actual module itself can be updated/fixed.
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I've identified what may be the cause of most of the 500 errors. It's an old bug, originally reported by Piru:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/project.php?issueid=62
This is the fault of a 3rd party module that the site is which uses a vBulletin "hook" (injects some code) that thanks to a lack of sanity checking fails fatally on evaluation, causing the 500 error.
Disabling the module is not an option for now, I've added a quick work-around (injects the required sanity checks into the hook - lol, injecting the injected code...) that should hopefully mitigate the issue until such time that the actual module itself can be updated/fixed.
Karlos has set the sanity injectors 10! Close your eyes! :lol:
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Well I haven't seen a single 500 crop up in the error log since then. The site still lags at times though, but that's likely a different issue.
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Karlos has set the sanity injectors 10! Close your eyes! :lol:
I know, it's very rare that I actually inject sanity into something :lol:
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Note: I've merged this thread with the "intermittent 500 error" one that I started, since both issues tend to be discussed in this one more.
If anybody experiences any more 500 style errors (and you are able to do so), please post here.
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I've identified what may be the cause of most of the 500 errors. It's an old bug, originally reported by Piru:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/project.php?issueid=62
This is the fault of a 3rd party module that the site is which uses a vBulletin "hook" (injects some code) that thanks to a lack of sanity checking fails fatally on evaluation, causing the 500 error.
Ouch. This is ringing the "gaping security hole" alarm... I hope that user input isn't part of the injected code in any way... indeed eval() must die.
Disabling the module is not an option for now, I've added a quick work-around (injects the required sanity checks into the hook - lol, injecting the injected code...)
Duct tape to the rescue :-)
PS. I did get the 500 error once maybe an hour ago. Also the site seems to run a bit slow but only intermittently.
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Ouch. This is ringing the "gaping security hole" alarm... I hope that user input isn't part of the injected code in any way... indeed eval() must die.
Yeah, vBulletin "depends" on it to support hooks, but php's eval() function is truly evil.
However, at least the eval()'d code in question comes from a database, not from any user-supplied input, which as you say, would be *seriously* bad.
Duct tape to the rescue :-)
No kidding. Check this out:
// References to "vbam" need to check that it actually is an object before invoking methods on it, but they don't
// The basic type information would be nice for an instanceof check instead of this
if (strpos($hook, 'shareads')!==false) {
$hook = str_replace(
'$output = $vbam->',
'if (is_object($vbam)) $output = $vbam->',
$hook
);
}
eval($hook);
How nasty is that? :lol:
Luckily the offending string in $hook is about 20 lines of fairly basic code after I got it logged, with two method calls on $vbam, neither of which did any checks to see if $vbam even contains a value, let alone whatever object type it was expecting. This is a temporary fix until I can find out where in the database the actual code lives and fix it properly.
PS. I did get the 500 error once maybe an hour ago. Also the site seems to run a bit slow but only intermittently.
There are other potential sources of 500 errors, but I've not seen one caused by this particular problem since the duct tape above.
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if (strpos($hook, 'shareads')!==false) {
$hook = str_replace(
'$output = $vbam->',
'if (is_object($vbam)) $output = $vbam->',
$hook
);
Eeewww, so you are actually running a string replace on the actual vbulletin code that is suspect, why not just fix it at the source then patching it at run time?
So the replacement part here does the extra step of seeing if the $vbam is in fact an object first, if so, let it go and set it to be the $output
duct tape, if it works....
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Eeewww, so you are actually running a string replace on the actual vbulletin code that is suspect, why not just fix it at the source then patching it at run time?
Did you read the post?
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Did you read the post?
Maybe a little overlap there. :smack:
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Intermittant stalls when loading main page or moving around the website.
Just a moment ago, when I was trying to reply to this thread, I got a message saying the web page failed to load.
Loading http://www.amiga.org/forums/newreply.php?
OK when I tried again.
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redfox
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I just now got the following error:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
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Aye, still stalling out.
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I just now got the following error:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
What exactly where you trying to view when this happened?
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What exactly where you trying to view when this happened?
If you see my post i made yesterday you will see the screenshots i tried to put up. Basically i tried to load the home page
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What exactly where you trying to view when this happened?
I can't say for a guaranteed fact as I was in a hurry when it happened. I will pay more attention next time.
I believe I had hit the back button which took me to an old New Posts page. Then I pressed the reload button in Firefox. This gave the error.
btw: I think you should modify the ErrorMsg() function to print the URL of the page that generated the error. Don't u think that is a good idea?
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No error messages but a massive slowdown, took ages to load 4 tabs.
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Just got a 500 error whilst going into opening several threads in tabs, the following was at the bottom of the page:-
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
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@Karlos
There's ton of AJAX request being sent by a.org when you're not logged in: two per second, and they're all 404. Can't be good.
http://www.amiga.org/ajax.php?do=createad&adcode=header&setting=header&securitytoken=guest
http://www.amiga.org/ajax.php?do=createad&adcode=footer&setting=footer&securitytoken=guest
POSTDATA:
undefined&securitytoken=guest&s=
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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /forums/newreply.php on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
Mon Jun 27 15:15:10 EEST 2011
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Warning: chdir() [function.chdir]: Permission denied (errno 13) in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 35
Warning: require_once(./includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required './includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
Mon Jun 27 15:17:14 EEST 2011
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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /forums/newreply.php on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
Mon Jun 27 15:15:10 EEST 2011
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Warning: chdir() [function.chdir]: Permission denied (errno 13) in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 35
Warning: require_once(./includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required './includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
Mon Jun 27 15:17:14 EEST 2011
Ohh No. Franko has got someone to hack into Piru's account.
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Just got these errors as well.
Warning: chdir() [function.chdir]: Permission denied (errno 13) in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 35
Warning: require_once(./includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required './includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
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I've noticed over the past couple of months that it takes a long time to load any page on the site.
It's outright *painfully* slow from time to time... :(
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Funny. No problems here. Win7, FF5. Crappy "desktop 4g" 10mbit connection.
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Me too, been at home, now work, no problems.
Looks like some chmod issues above...
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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /forums/newreply.php on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
Mon Jun 27 15:15:10 EEST 2011
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Warning: chdir() [function.chdir]: Permission denied (errno 13) in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 35
Warning: require_once(./includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required './includes/vba_cmps_include_template.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/amiga84/public_html/index.php on line 43
Mon Jun 27 15:17:14 EEST 2011
That's just downright wrong. Time to investigate.
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Here's another one that I get many times a day!
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
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How many of you are following links in from the "top stats" thing at the bottom of the home page?
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How many of you are following links in from the "top stats" thing at the bottom of the home page?
I'm not.
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I'm not.
Yeah, the problem you highlighted was certainly not caused due to a path issue. Getting a 403 for the forum/newreply.php really shouldn't happen.
There's ton of AJAX request being sent by a.org when you're not logged in: two per second, and they're all 404. Can't be good.
No, and that one should be fixed. Also the "misc.php" that is referenced repeatedly from the front page via XHR should no longer 302 redirect to forums/misc.php, which should reduce some of the lags too.
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How many of you are following links in from the "top stats" thing at the bottom of the home page?
never touch the stuff.
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Just posting to kick down a thread I don't like appearing on my Amiga forum community...
move along...
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Silly question time. Is it actually legal to change the coding as Karlos has done? :confused:
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I was lurking for a about 5 minutes, going back and forth through some theads and it was fast, no hesitatation, no stalls. Then I logged in and it stalled before the current page finished loading. Speed varies and some stalls now that I am logged in.
Using OWB 3.31 on OS4.1 Update2.
I think I'll log out again.
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redfox
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Sites seems to be running far smoother and faster. Had no issues and no random crashes or hangs.
What ever you did keep it that way lol.
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Doesn't seem to matter which web browser I use on my OS4 PPC machine, things slow down as soon as I login. As long as I lurk and check threads, it seems ok.
Haven't tried the Windows machines recently.
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Silly question time.
Yes that is silly.
Is it actually legal to change the coding as Karlos has done? :confused:
No, but now I'm intrigued: What makes you think it would not be?
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Maybe because i am thinking about Apple and Sony closing you in every chance they get. In todays age of closed in computer devices i naturally assume any modification to anything is against some sort of license you agree to just by using it. Judging by your response i take it i am wrong? ;)
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Last few days (week) Amiga.org has been having issues for me. A couple of examples.
Refresh. It takes forever to load or it just times out and does not re-load. I have to hit refresh again. Maybe a couple times.
Happens when posting if I hit preview. Takes forever or may time out and lose everything.
Also does this when just clicking on forum topic. Maybe it will load fine, but sometimes it wont load and have and I to wait and it may time out, and have to retry a few times as above.
Reasonably sure this is A.org specific. Tried multiple browsers to make sure it wasn't a browser issue. I usually have 15 - 20 tabs or more open and it is only Amiga.org. Usuallly when the issue is happening I pop over to some other tabs and surf around with no problems and come back over to A.org tab to see if the page has been loaded or have to refresh again because it timed out.
Again, doesn't happen everytime, but enough in normal use that it's annoying. Have not had this issue on any other sites at all during this time.
Anyway, anybody else having this issue?
EDIT:
I read redfox's post and being logged in may have something to do with it. I going to test that out and see what I get.
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Anyway, anybody else having this issue?
Yep. Intermittent lags seem to be a regular feature these days but I haven't had any 500 error messages since the last round of duct tape was applied. There also were some server configuration issues that the hosting company looked into and are reportedly fixed.
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Yep. Intermittent lags seem to be a regular feature these days but I haven't had any 500 error messages since the last round of duct tape was applied. There also were some server configuration issues that the hosting company looked into and are reportedly fixed.
Hi,
Yep Amiga.org acts just like Karlos's brain, you know, intermittent lag, seems to be a regular feature, especially when you get old.
smerf
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First let me say that I was permanently logged into Amiga.org for many years.
Every time I came here I was logged in and it knew who I was. I never got to become Piru.
Then one day a while back, I was suddenly not logged in. Now I have to log in every single time I want to write a post. I did not cause this behavior intentionally. It is either a Firefox problem or an Amiga.org problem.
Keeping in mind that I was not logged in. I left Amiga.org and visited some other sites. While at the Natami site I navigated back several pages to the home page of Amiga.org.
Since I was now viewing the old post listing on the front page (It was 1+ hour old) I then pressed the "New Posts" button near the top of the page. This triggered the following error:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
This error was 100% reproducible. I pressed "back" then "New Posts" and got this same error every single time.
To escape being trapped in the twilight zone I clicked on a random thread "Desperate in Texas" then pressed "New Posts" and it worked.
I never had these problems on other sites.
I hope I have given you a detailed enough explanation this time so that you can solve the mystery and fix the problem. Thanks.
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I reckon myself the problems have been created by a certain well know person here who apart from deleting other peoples account login details and passwords has been mucking around for quite some time now behind the scenes here and has basically mucked up the whole system.
As only people who have authority on this site would know about the following, then it seems obvious that one of these people posted this info on MooBunny.
Frankos Account Deleted By Wayne on Amiga.org (http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/197805)
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First let me say that I was permanently logged into Amiga.org for many years.
Every time I came here I was logged in and it knew who I was. I never got to become Piru.
LOL, that brings back memories :lol:
Then one day a while back, I was suddenly not logged in. Now I have to log in every single time I want to write a post. I did not cause this behavior intentionally. It is either a Firefox problem or an Amiga.org problem.
This is an unrelated issue. Your old cookie from the xoops days is meaningless to vBulletin. You need to get a new one. There were numerous threads along the lines of "I keep getting logged out after 10 mins" all of which are down to the same issue and very simple to fix. You have to log in to the user control panel page directly and tell it to "remember me" using the checkbox in the login form there. The quick login box doesn't seem to have one.
See: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51458 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51458)
The above works for me on several vB sites, this one included.
Keeping in mind that I was not logged in. I left Amiga.org and visited some other sites. While at the Natami site I navigated back several pages to the home page of Amiga.org.
Since I was now viewing the old post listing on the front page (It was 1+ hour old) I then pressed the "New Posts" button near the top of the page. This triggered the following error:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
This error was 100% reproducible. I pressed "back" then "New Posts" and got this same error every single time.
To escape being trapped in the twilight zone I clicked on a random thread "Desperate in Texas" then pressed "New Posts" and it worked.
I never had these problems on other sites.
I hope I have given you a detailed enough explanation this time so that you can solve the mystery and fix the problem. Thanks.
Well unfortunately that doesn't tell me as much as you may think but as it says, the error log may have more information.
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Just got this one again :- Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at http://www.amiga.org Port 80
Whilst trying to open the front page.
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Yes, this is forum everyday is more slow, sometimes I can't connect with it.
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Getting similar errors as the others. Also, hitting the back button to return to the main page often stalls for 30 secs or outright craps out.
Tested in FF and Chrome on my PC via ADSL, and via ipad/iphone and 3G, same result.
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Getting similar errors as the others. Also, hitting the back button to return to the main page often stalls for 30 secs or outright craps out.
Tested in FF and Chrome on my PC via ADSL, and via ipad/iphone and 3G, same result.
Same - at home and work on Chrome, OWB, IE 8 and Safari on various machines and ISPs.
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Well that was very interesting. As long as I don't log in I can surf around this website OK. It slows down sometimes but at least it is usable for viewing only. Tried logging in with OWB, logged in fine but could not move around the website. Does not matter which link I click it does not go there. Only thing that works is logout, and that was very fast.
At least using NetSurf, I was able to move around the site after logging in. Posting this with NetSurf 3.0 (Development) version.
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redfox
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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I'm starting to get the impression that the server is not configured optimally for a site as busy as this and that at times of peak activity it's running out of resources. Not disk space or bandwidth, but available database connection handles or something like that.
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I'm starting to get the impression that the server is not configured optimally for a site as busy as this and that at times of peak activity it's running out of resources. Not disk space or bandwidth, but available database connection handles or something like that.
Sounds plausible..
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Sounds plausible..
Well, when the site is responsive, it's very responsive. And when it isn't, it really isn't. There's not much middle ground. Using chrome's (or firebug on firefox) net inspector you can see how much time is spent waiting for various requests and I've noticed that when the site lags, it's basically waiting for the page content rather than statically served assets like images and such. Considering that on a good day, a typical page request takes around ~0.2 seconds (processing time for the main script on the server, not the overall page load time), for it to suddenly leap to 30 seconds seems like something in the code itself timing out. Communication with MySQL is always via socket (even when hosted locally) and the database server has a limit on how many concurrent connections are allowed. It's not hard to envisage it refusing new connections to php scripts that might retry several times (with a delay) before giving up all together.
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I've tweaked a few things (mostly cache and thumbnail-generation related) that may or may not improve the site performance, but if we are running out of db connections, it isn't going to help at all.
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'received a invalid reply'
I get this message a lot, refreshing the page cures the problem.
The grammar and punctuation are bloody shocking.
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'received a invalid reply'
I get this message a lot, refreshing the page cures the problem.
The grammar and punctuation are bloody shocking.
Is that actually coming down the wire or from your browser?
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Is that actually coming down the wire or from your browser?
It's gotta be down the wire. Never happens on any other sites. Btw i'm using the latest Opera.
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Maybe http://aoproxy.extropia.co.uk/ will work better for me.
For me, the main site became a lost cause with OWB 3.31. Too slow even for casual browsing. Sometimes I could get the first and last page but stalled downloading any middle pages. Maybe I have to wait until you guys from Europe and UK go to sleep.
One thing is for sure, I won't be powering up a Windows PC just to visit Amiga org.
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redfox
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It's gotta be down the wire. Never happens on any other sites. Btw i'm using the latest Opera.
Is it still lagging badly where you are?
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Maybe http://aoproxy.extropia.co.uk/ will work better for me.
For me, the main site became a lost cause with OWB 3.31. Too slow even for casual browsing. Sometimes I could get the first and last page but stalled downloading any middle pages. Maybe I have to wait until you guys from Europe and UK go to sleep.
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redfox
Well if you are using a non-css amiga browser, that's what the proxy is there for :)
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Is it still lagging badly where you are?
Seems fine at the minute...
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Back button on every browser I've just tried via multiple connections and devices/systems still takes about 30 secs to actually go back. Simply reloading the main forums page is quite quick atm, though.
Just some input, not a bitchfest, heh.
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I would have though it would benefit amiga.org to have their own dedicated machine anyway, or even a inexpensive virtual, so you have more control over the setup. I also suspect the site is designed to be run at some profit though what with google adverts and subscriptions. surely enough to cover shared hosting, and I should think enough to cover a cheaper dedicated machine too, or go towards it.
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Had a near 1 hour timeout (site entirely unreachable) at about 12 pm (MST) today, tested on multiple browsers (FF, IE, Chrome, Safari), multiple systems (PC, Mac, iPad and iPhone), and over ADSL and 3G.
Not a biggie, just wanted to give a heads up.
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I'm really puzzled by this mystery. And I still do not have any trouble reaching or loading the site from home(Time Warner) or work (University).
Still, other are having some real consistent trouble.
Hmmm, makes me think about NameServers/DNS and who is handling it? Has it always been the same? Some of these descriptions sound like the name could not be resolved.
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Had a near 1 hour timeout (site entirely unreachable) at about 12 pm (MST) today, tested on multiple browsers (FF, IE, Chrome, Safari), multiple systems (PC, Mac, iPad and iPhone), and over ADSL and 3G.
Not a biggie, just wanted to give a heads up.
For once, I think that may have coincided with some maintenance work the hosting company were doing.
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I'm really puzzled by this mystery. And I still do not have any trouble reaching or loading the site from home(Time Warner) or work (University).
Still, other are having some real consistent trouble.
Hmmm, makes me think about NameServers/DNS and who is handling it? Has it always been the same? Some of these descriptions sound like the name could not be resolved.
That would explain not being able to connect at all or the occasional extreme lag (which I've had in the past too), but not the various "VB database error" messages.
FWIW, these messages are pretty generic and not necessarily indicative of a problem with the database content since any error at all (including failure to connect in the first place) that is caught by VB will result in this page being shown.
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That would explain not being able to connect at all or the occasional extreme lag (which I've had in the past too), but not the various "VB database error" messages.
FWIW, these messages are pretty generic and not necessarily indicative of a problem with the database content since any error at all (including failure to connect in the first place) that is caught by VB will result in this page being shown.
VB is a bloody horrid system anyway. Shame.
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Received a invalid response.
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My IP address has been blocked etc, message sent to webmaster.
Is this anything to do with the ongoing issues??
Starting to get annoying now quite frankly.
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Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@amiga.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at amiga.org Port 80
meh.
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I had to turn off the cache, bots from banned ip ranges were filling it up with ip ban notifications and there were login complications for a few people too. So were back to running out of db connections far more frequently instead.