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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 21, 2015, 03:46:53 AM »
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Oh for the love of... it's not the mouse, it's the interface.  No hardware-hacking, bit-banging game from 1985 is going to support a mouse plugged into a USB port.  They didn't even have USB ports when most Amiga games were written.  That's why you get a Cocolino, or use system-friendly games.  Or the new version of this mouse that plugs directly into a 9-pin port.  *sigh*

Ha, I know all of this, I was answering questions that someone else had asked earlier in this thread about Deneb+mouse.  Of course they didn't have USB back in 1985, closest they had then was the Atari 8-Bit SIO port.  What I was saying that the the USB mouse version of the Amiga mouse itself was flaky with other systems (MacOSX, LInux, Windows, different computers, different USB ports) has been hit and miss.  

Main reason I had bought the USB version was to use with the Macbook Pro that my employer provided to me to use, and it didn't work with it.  Though it had a really flaky USB port, so it's possible that caused most of the issues I had with it.  It's working fine right now on a Linux install on my Zenbook.

Yes, I actually bought the mousepad and mouse to use at work on a macbook, just to advertise some Amiga love there.

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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2015, 04:50:21 AM »
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I have a Spider 2.0 card, and no not a single game I've played that doesn't run under workbench has worked with the USB mouse.  In fact, the one I ordered from Amigakit (which seems to be USB/Black version of the mouse this thread is about) has been kind of flaky in various computers I've tried it in.


Do you have the USB device driver and Poseidon input.device in kickstart or loaded reset proof? It would be required if booting off a floppy. Most games probably turn off multitasking or throw out the OS and it won't work anyway. USB probably needs to be on a motherboard with an FPGA which can read the USB input and place the processed data in the appropriate Amiga gameport registers to be reliable with all games.

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I specifically ordered this mouse for two reasons, 1) the aforementioned compatibility with games, wanted an optical mouse that will work in games.  (haven't tried this yet) 2) Wanted to get the mouse wheel scroll working for browsers.  For some reason though, it's not working.  I have Freewheel in wbstartup++ folder, tried inside Enabled, and outside of it, but still no suck luck.


I can scroll with the scroll wheel fine using my Cocolino with driver and Freewheel.
 

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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2015, 07:50:02 AM »
im pretty sure the games bang the hardware for mouse input. no usb mouse will ever work with that except when wired to actual amiga mouse port via some adapter, as in above case.
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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2015, 02:29:18 AM »
Awesome, discovered there is a 'mouse utility' disk they include, though it says it just has freewheel and MX1000 test programs on it.

And the fun begins... go to turn on my Amiga to download the file, and an awful smell emanates that fantastic electronic burn smell....

Time to create a new thread on that.

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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2015, 02:36:21 AM »
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Awesome, discovered there is a 'mouse utility' disk they include, though it says it just has freewheel and MX1000 test programs on it.

No, there is a tool on there as well, that needs to go in your User-Startup, if I recall correctly.

Also there is a later version of FreeWheel on Aminet, than what is on the disk:

http://aminet.net/package/util/mouse/FreeWheel

...but it sounds like you have bigger problems to deal with, now.  :(
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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2015, 02:37:36 AM »
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Awesome, discovered there is a 'mouse utility' disk they include, though it says it just has freewheel and MX1000 test programs on it.

And the fun begins... go to turn on my Amiga to download the file, and an awful smell emanates that fantastic electronic burn smell....

Time to create a new thread on that.

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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2015, 06:22:49 AM »
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69834

Pretty epic burn on the memory chip, it bubbled up, and split down the middle!

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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #51 on: September 22, 2015, 06:39:17 AM »
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No, there is a tool on there as well, that needs to go in your User-Startup, if I recall correctly.

Also there is a later version of FreeWheel on Aminet, than what is on the disk:

http://aminet.net/package/util/mouse/FreeWheel

...but it sounds like you have bigger problems to deal with, now.  :(

Yeah, :( I had downloaded that from aminet, wasn't working.  there was a driver file mentioned on the utility disk.


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