Alan Redhouse revealed the impressive future of AmigaOne!!!!! (from AmiGBG 2003)

[JurassicCamper]

Helgis75 wrote:
I agree with someone in the point that AmigaOne is nothing special without OS4. With OS4, the users will feel very much at home. No, i don't expect the OS4 to be out that soon. I guess Mai or June, after having read Alans' speech very carefully.

[speculation]
It maybe sooner, at least internally anyway.

Rogue commented the other day that's its almost done.

Alan also said he is back in China in 2 weeks for another conference seminar.

He put up this ppc forum slide and look at the last bullet point.

They want to show the benifits of PPC. I dont think he'll be taking his CD32 along to do that.
[/speculation]

[Helgis75]

I hope that this topic also could help new people to get attracted to the AmigaOne/AmigaOS4-platform. I really promise you it will be a very exciting experience, and well worth it! Come on! Pop in here, check the latest news hinted here and write in you comments, thoughts and feelings of the AmigaOne! This topic is so interesting that i don't think it will end for quite some time!  :-)  :-D

Come on, don't be shy! Pop in and join the rest of us!
We promise, you won't regret it!  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

[Atheist]

Hello Helgis75,

Why did you post this under Emulation? Probably should have been in the HW forum?

AmigaOne! AmigaAnyEveryWare!!!  :-D  :-D  :-D

[Helgis75]

I didn't notice this is the Emulation-side, but anyway, never mind. This topic is still the most popular one! Everybody knows what i mean about this topic!

[Dan]

Dan wrote:
The DONGLE as you like to call it:
The bad thing is that this only benefits Eyetech not the users or Hyperion.

Did Hyperion said anything negative regarding the use of 'dongle'?

No, but at the moment it limits the number of users/OSlicenses

That said other motherboard manufacturers should have a way of including the dongle thing( i´m thinking elbox shark), competiton is good. I don´t want eyetech to become the next Micro$oft.

Eyetech is hardly Microsoft i.e. I recall Eyetech doesn't create the OS.

More like Apple and the evil Steve Jobs then, killing the clones ( MacOS licensing companys like Daystar, Motorola, Power Computing) and pushing all innovative ideas into the ground.
And he launched the Cubes, i tell you he is an evil borg leader

AROS is nice, but it doesn't run any legacy AmigaOS applications (without the use of UAE).

??!!!!  :-?
Oh yes it does, on 68k machines.
AmigaOS 4.0 don´t run 68k code on a PPC without the 68k JIT that is technical impossible.

[Dan]

[speculation]
It maybe sooner, at least internally anyway.

Yes a demobetaversions was meant to be on AmiGBG
In a couple of days they will actually have something to show off.
 :-D

[MiniBobF]

@Atheist

500 UKP = $542 dollars

Er, no.

500UKP = approx USD950
USD542 =  approx £290

[z5]

Rogue commented the other day that's its almost done

Not true. They have OS4 booting and working on Cyberstorm. No news has been said about OS4 on AOne. There is a big difference.

[Kronos]

BUT, they purchased Amiga IP rights from Gateway 2000, in Dec. 1999 for at LEAST $5,000,000.

WHERE IS THE PROFIT? It's 3 1/2 years later, how are we being gouged??? SOMEONE needs to pony up their investment cost. And there aren't 250,000 of us out here to split the cost
......

a) Noone really knows how much money was really paid as it was
pretty much an insider deal.

Gauging the sum would benefit Amino (AInc) as it made them look
bigger then they were, and GateWay as it was easier to apiece
the shareholders of the loss made with Amiga-adventure.

Looking back at what prices were paid by Escom and later GateWay
when there still was a real market, I would say 5m $ is/was way
out of line.

b) Even if it is true, so what ?
They paid for IP the didn't want to know, just to get an obscure
brand-name and the chance to lure developers to a completly
unrelated platform (Intent). Only when they found out that this
didn't work they decided to go back to the real AOS.

Two f***-ups and 2 scams later they gave it to Hyperion.

So why should they have any rights on us users ?

[Zorro]

Dan wrote:

In a couple of days they will actually have something to show off.

This is only true for CS edition... but is wonderful anyway.

For the AOne version it will take (a lot ?) more time.  :-(

[Wilse]

takemehomegrandma wrote:

rlfrost wrote:
Helgis,

You have no idea how much I hope that you do get one of these A1 boards.  Whatever the reason, whatever the cost, and whether it's worth a damn or not, you should be the first to get one.

Here's hoping that you do.

RLFrost

I second to that. If there is any fairness in this world, then Helgis would get the very first A1 from the production run. And I mean that! :-)

Amen to that!

Have any of you in the UK seen the Hula-Hoops ads. with the reluctant star? Ainc should recruit Helgis to star in TV ads. for the A1, except he wouldn't be looking bewildered, rather bursting with enthusiasm!  :-D

Go Helgis!  :-P

[Atheist]

MiniBobF wrote:
@Atheist

500 UKP = $542 dollars

Er, no.

500UKP = approx USD950
USD542 =  approx £290

Thanks MiniBobF.
I used Euro to $USD, by mistake. :-(
Fixed my post on page 5.

I got 500 UKP = $783.39 USD on
www.XE.Com

AmigaOne! Check, and double check your facts!

[Atheist]

Kronos wrote:

Looking back at what prices were paid by Escom and later GateWay
when there still was a real market, I would say 5m $ is/was way
out of line.

I agree, but I know you know, on at least 1 of the transfers of ownership from Commodore to Escom, or Escom to Gateway, the bankruptcy judge said, the offer was too low, and raised the price.

Kronos wrote:

b) Even if it is true, so what ?
They paid for IP the didn't want to know, just to get an obscure
brand-name and the chance to lure developers to a completly
unrelated platform (Intent). Only when they found out that this
didn't work they decided to go back to the real AOS.

Two f***-ups and 2 scams later they gave it to Hyperion.

So why should they have any rights on us users ?

I agree that AOS should have been pursued, right from day one. I was not happy with the intent/elate/Linux/Qnix... stuff either.

AOS is an OS, and should have been coded, right away.

As for f***-U.P.S. and scams, and rights on us users, everybody makes mistakes, but, I wouldn't say scams. THEY WILL NOT GET ANYWHERE IF THEY SCAM.

So, NO, I do not agree with this, at all!

...rights on us users.

They will, "very soon now" (Tm), have a product, for us "users", who will decide if it meets our needs, and will purchase it on that basis.

WE have the "rights" on whether we think it's what we expect/need and then the "rights" TO buy, or NOT to buy.

They play a part, and we play our part! We could walk away at any time, but that would almost be a breach of trust, because WE HARASSED THEM FOR YEARS, to do this for us.

Let's not let a few dollars stand in the way of our dreams.

AmigaOne! It's THAT good!

[Hammer]

More like Apple and the evil Steve Jobs then,
killing the clones ( MacOS licensing companys like Daystar, Motorola, Power Computing) and pushing all innovative ideas into the ground.

Did Amiga Inc issue an edict to limit hardware vendors to One like Steve Job's edict?  

Oh yes it does, on 68k machines.

AROS/m68k-pp

Flavour: Native
Status: Partly working (in an emulator), incomplete driver support
Maintained: Yes

AROS/m68k-pp is the native port of AROS to the Palm line of handheld computers and compatibles ("pp" stands for "palm pilot", which was the name of the first handhelds of this line). This means that you might be able to take AROS with you in your pocket when travelling in the future...

This port is currently very raw. It does mostly work (running in an emulator, since nobody wants to risk trashing their expensive hardware just yet) but there is still a lot of work left. There is a graphics driver, but not any input ones. This port is not available for download at this time.
...

How does one claim AROS works with legacy AmigaOS applications when this port is not available for public download?

Secondly, my post is in the context of the main X86 AROS edition. 68k AROS port  is pretty pointless when there is a 68K/AmigaClassic version of AmigaOS.

Thirdly, AROS's goals/focus is somewhat different to AmigaOS 4.0  i.e. running AmigaOS legacy applications on non-68k based hardware while moving forward to native applications.

AmigaOS 4.0 don´t run 68k code on a PPC without the 68k JIT that is technical impossible.

I don't recall the planned release version of A1/AmigaOS 4.0 is separated from its 68k component.

[Dan]

BUT, they purchased Amiga IP rights from Gateway 2000, in Dec. 1999 for at LEAST $5,000,000.

Eyetech didn´t, Amiga DE Inc did and they can go play with their DE on Win CE and make the money off the CEgeeks.
I don´t want to give them any money for making DE crap  and making the Amiga name look bad.
How is the Amiganame license written does DE inc get a precentage of the price of every sold machine or was it a onetime payment?
Hyperion making profit of me is cool with me, Eyetech doing the same is not a bad thing but DE Inc i hate!

[Hammer]

No, but at the moment it limits the number of users/OSlicenses

IF we flip the scenario around in the POV of the OS’s creators; the protection itself is not the problem i.e. it’s the lack of vendors who are interested with AmigaOS 4.0.   Without a demonstrable OS product, this situation wouldn’t get better.