Scandoubler / Flickerfixer solution!

[AmiDude]

@leirbag28

The game pictures look a little blur, because
I didn't hold the camera stable, I guess.:nervous:
You must keep in mind that taking pictures
of images on monitors doesn't look great at all.
But in real the games look as crisp as can be.
All native Amiga resolutions are displayed just fine!
 :-)

About the RGB-SCART cable: You can buy them on eBay
for about 10-15$.

I did a little PAL to NTSC-switch test in the early
startup control. It seems that the screen's going blank
for about 2-3 seconds. It does that also without the CM345S and with a 15Khz monitor connected to it.
But, why would you switch from PAL to NTSC? Certainly
not frequently...:-?

About the RGB to VGA-adapter: I can't try that for you,
because then I would need a VGA to SCART-cable. I do
have an RGB to VGA-adapter, but no VGA to SCART-cable.
But I guess it should work though...:idea:

 

[AmiDude]

@leirbag

OK, I didn't understand you correctly about the
RGB-VGA adapter. But now I've just tested it.
First I saved de Multiscan resolution and then
I plugged the VGA-cable to the PC-in, and it works!
Very sharp and stable picture. But that was Workbench only.. If you use the CM345S this way, you can't play
games or run any other application in the native Amiga
screenmodes. So, if you wanna play games etc..you must
buy an RGB to SCART-cable.
 

[leirbag28]

@AmiDude

Thanks for testing that........but you missed the most important test of all.

Dont save it into Multiscan mode a Im sure that would work anyway on any PC monitor.

What I am asking is connect it from the RGB to VGA adaptor straight into the VGA PC input of your box............but!  without putting it in Multiscan................leave it in NTSC or PAL..............just to see if it would scan double this RGB NTSC/PAL signal coming in from the VGA input of your box where a PC would normally be connected. if it does, then we wont need a SCART cable!  WooHooo!

 I will be masively surprise if this works.

[vic20owner]

Hmm... I'm still sceptical of the FF ability.  All of those pictures are HiRes but not laced, therefore there IS no flicker.  How about SuperHiRes Lace? Will it do it?

It is definately a lot better than the VGA box I had.  It looks ok so far...but I'm waiting to see the HiRes and SuperHiRes interlaced modes.

[AmiDude]

@vic20owner

There's 1 picture in HIRES+LACED mode:
1 Workbench shot.
Take a look again... It's a very good Flickerfixer!

www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1161
 :-D

[AmiDude]

@leirbag28

The VGA input of the CM345S is only a passtrough
for a PC or Amiga with SD/FF(PicassoIV), so you
can switch with one press on the input button
from one computer to another.
But it don't scandoubles the input.

[leirbag28]

@Amidude

Yes, I am sure thats what it probably is.................can can you still test it?  pretty Pleaseeeeee??? :-D

Maybe the circuits dont care where the signal is coming from and it might still SD/FF it.......because maybe it was also intended for ATI cards when they output NTSC signals...one never knows :-D

Please please try it. :-D

[AmiDude]

@leirbag

I tried it, but with no result, sorry.
I guess you need to use an RGB2SCART-cable
after all. They're frequently for sale on eBay.
 :-)

[vic20owner]

Wow! The interlaced wb shot looks better than with an internal scan doubler (at least better than on my LCD monitor).

[kas1e]

@amidude
what about you feeling ? i mean for eyes. I am have in my a1200 micronic scandy internal scandoubler. And want to said that is SUXX ! of course it is usable, but 30hz refrash rate ! it is really pain for eyes. What you feel with cm345s ? 60hz it is a bit more good the 30. So, how it ? Can you use it for hours ?

[bubba]

Any idea if the color space is 16-bit or 24-bit?  Perhaps someone could open this case and identify the video processing chips.  I'm sure the specs could be found on the Internet.

Also, is this thing avaliable in North America?

[AmiDude]

@kas1e

The refresh rate is indeed 60Hz. I've powered the CM345S
on for the whole day with an A630HD connected to it, without any problems! It looks real good. I have tested
a few SD/FF's before, but this one really beats 'm all!
I would highly reccomended it to every Amiga user!
 :-D

[AmiDude]

@bubba

I guess it's true 24-bit, but I'm not sure...
I've placed a few links in this post, from where
you can buy an CM345S. The full name is:
"Presenter1 Scart Video to XGA Converter CM345S"


 :-)

[kas1e]

@amidude

Btw, what kind of SD/FF do you try before you a found this one ? And how much money you spend for it ? On links i found price from 200 usd to 99F. But 99f it 150 usd ?

[AmiDude]

@kas1e

I've tried the MV1200, ScandoublerFF, Scandex and
an XGA-VGA box. The last one was really c**p!

I've purchased the CM345S for 150 Euro + 15 shipping
costs from this online store:

www.bcsistem.com/conversores/cm345s.htm

but there are also others who sell it. Look at the
links I've placed on top of this post.

 :-)

[kas1e]

amidude, no any problems with custom house for you i hope ?