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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #59 from previous page: January 27, 2004, 02:28:40 PM »
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And for the second: legal?  Well, everyone lives in a different country with a different law, so what's exactly legal?

Eye of the beholder.  Ie. the moderators.
hmm, so I better shut up about politicians goin' to whores, since many moderators come from countries where such is forbidden

You didn't really take in what I said, did you? :-)
 

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2004, 02:36:08 PM »
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And for the second: legal?  Well, everyone lives in a different country with a different law, so what's exactly legal?

Eye of the beholder.  Ie. the moderators.
hmm, so I better shut up about politicians goin' to whores, since many moderators come from countries where such is forbidden

You didn't really take in what I said, did you? :-)
Sorry, next time I shall listen to you moderators. :-)
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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2004, 03:58:36 PM »
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Simple solution, 10 free posts per month, want any more and you have to pay a $5 subscription fee.

I'm gonna be really unpopular now :-(
It would kill A.org over night, as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2004, 04:00:40 PM »
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hmm, so I better shut up about politicians goin' to whores, since many moderators come from countries where such is forbidden
Yeah, but you can still talk about whores!  ;-)

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2004, 04:14:30 PM »
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Simple solution, 10 free posts per month, want any more and you have to pay a $5 subscription fee.
I'm gonna be really unpopular now :-(
It would kill A.org over night, as far as I'm concerned.
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The upshot those is that we'd end up $5 better off! :-D
 

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2004, 04:17:55 PM »
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bloodline wrote:
Simple solution, 10 free posts per month, want any more and you have to pay a $5 subscription fee.
I'm gonna be really unpopular now :-(
It would kill A.org over night, as far as I'm concerned.
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The upshot those is that we'd end up $5 better off! :-D


Heheheh... but that's quite sad, Mike that you are not prepared to pay (even a tiny sum) for Amiga.org!

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2004, 06:39:19 PM »
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Heheheh... but that's quite sad, Mike that you are not prepared to pay (even a tiny sum) for Amiga.org!

Hey, I should be paid for my services! :-D
 

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2004, 06:54:49 PM »
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Heheheh... but that's quite sad, Mike that you are not prepared to pay (even a tiny sum) for Amiga.org!

Hey, I should be paid for my services! :-D


My comment was aimed at Glacious-Mike not you :-)

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2004, 06:55:36 PM »
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1. People using HTML in their posts - often enormous images, which also appear in people's replies to the offending post.
Why shouldn't people take advantage of the World Wide Web when posting on a web forum?!? Perhaps we should turn A.org into a telnet/gopher server then?!?


No, but I don't particularly want to open a thread and find the page contains multiple links to enormous images on other servers and are displayed many times because people include them in their replies.  It messes up the layout of the site when large images when people include them in their replies.


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2. People posting garbage like "this is my 4000th post". I think this is the worst kind of crapflooding.
It's called a right of passage. It's goofy, no argument there, but at the same time it's good to (self) honor those long time users of Amiga.org, with which without there would not BE an Amiga.org.


No it's not.  Surely any right of passage is how long you have been on the site, and how much of a contribution you make.  Getting a high post-count is NOT any indication of status or a right of passage.

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3. People posting stuff for the sake of it, that doesn't actually say anything.
Well that's highly subjective. Communication is always good. I'm surprised people are so anal about this crap-flooding BS. Personally, I think it livens things up a bit. I mean, A.org is full of wacky characters, many of which I strongly disagree with, while others I'm indifferent with, but I'd never want to see anyone be removed. If someone's a goof, well, the world is full of goofs and that tells me that even goofs have a role to play.


It's boring to see crapflooding - for example, I've seen threads where people post nothing but smilies.  It doesn't add character, it's not charming and it doesn't say anything.  It's a waste of my bandwidth.  Incidentally, it's interesting that you, with your 2,500+ posts, are defending the right to posts that "liven" things up (i.e. crapflooding).

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2. Politics. Apart from "FluffyMcDeath"'s never ending and tiresome crusade against the United States (this loon also used to have a picture of a 20-year old Saddam Hussein on his avatar).
One man's loon is another man's straight talker. However it seems you're perfectly fine with personal attacks (perhaps you should have made that point number 3). How charming.
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What I wrote is more interesting than yet another (yawn) anti-American tirade - and these aren't one-off posts, it seems to be campaign.  First it bored me, then it irrirated me, now it makes me pissed off.  To the point where I wrote what impression he gives me.  If someone sets out on this kind of campaign on an computer website than what else do they expect when people get annoyed about it.

 

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2004, 07:08:12 PM »

My idea on how to get rid of posts
that are made solely to increase post count:

When there is a rank and post count on every user
it is like saying: "THIS IS A COMPETITION. Can you beat your friends?..."
And you -WILL- get fanatics who post tons of 5 second rubbish,
so only solution is to remove rank and post count,
then many fanatics would probably have no reason to post rubbish anymore.

-I- personally dont care about the counts or ranks,
but everybody is different, so there will always be fanatics.
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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2004, 07:34:01 PM »
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My idea on how to get rid of posts
that are made solely to increase post count:
How many people here are obsessed with their post count? Not many, you could probably count them all on your index finger. I don't think we need to invent an elaborate safe-guard against such a "threat" to the Amiga.org community.

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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2004, 08:45:43 PM »
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hmm, so I better shut up about politicians goin' to whores, since many moderators come from countries where such is forbidden
Yeah, but you can still talk about whores!  ;-)

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Nope, we aren't allowed to talk about anything that's forbidden in most countries, as well as we may not talk about marijuana and gay marriage.
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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2004, 08:52:45 PM »
since when have we not been able to talk about marijuana and gay marriage?
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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2004, 08:59:35 PM »
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I would have to guess that the 'anything goes' theme will be no more. Maybe changed to 'Any intelligent discussion' that is 1)In good taste, 2)legal, 3)Not for the sake only trolling alone. Maybe also add 4)Political arguements are allowed until they get unreasonably heated, at which time they will be closed.

if this is interpreted literally by a moderator who lives in a country where it's forbidden
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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2004, 09:17:24 PM »
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I don't post on a.org very often, but I do read it everyday.  What annoys me most about the forums is:

1.  People using HTML in their posts - often enormous images, which also appear in people's replies to the offending post.
An image says more than a thousand words. Now thousand words, that'd be tiresome!
No, I like images, as long as they add something, something interesting.
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Re: Fixing the problems with the forums and trolls
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2004, 09:59:05 PM »
I just wish people would stop feeding the trolls... :-(
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