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Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« on: November 12, 2010, 06:24:44 PM »
Hi Everyone,

Total newbie question sorry... I am going to purchase a ACA630 for my Amiga A600 when they become available but I am worried about it speeding up the games I intend to play so they are not as they should be / realistic.

I am only going to play a handful of games namely, Beneath a Steel Sky, Ruff N' Tumble, Theme Park, Syndicate and Choas Engine. There are probably a few more I cannot think of..!! I am just wondering if these are going to run at the correct speed? Whether the authors who produced these actually factored in a 'maximum' run/play speed to compensate for the various performance of Amigas at the time I am not sure. If I had to guess I would say the early games, no! But the newer games, yes! :)

I don't think I am that bother about WHload as I want to play most of my games from disk with the exception of Beneath a Steel Sky that I will install using it's own installation process..

Has anyone got any advice?

Thanks

Adrian
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 06:26:21 PM »
I've never seen a commercial game run too fast on an accelerated Amiga, not to say there are none that will, but it doesn't seem common.
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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 06:33:26 PM »
So you haven't played Buggy Boy....
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 06:34:18 PM »
Nope!
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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 06:59:09 PM »
There might be exceptions, but games that get their timing from the CPU instead of the video's vertical refresh were rare by the time the Amiga debuted; the latest ones I've seen were the Mega Man PC original games from 1990, and even then that was uncommon. There are probably some exceptions, but I've never encountered an Amiga game whose speed was affected by an accelerator.
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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 07:11:58 PM »
Ditto - no experience with games being sped up either. Wish a few were affected by that though! lol
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 07:27:28 PM »
Ha ha! I remember the Megaman experience on DOS! I had to download something called MoSlo.

But ya, on the AMiga, I don't recall having run into this issue yet.
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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 08:03:29 PM »
There were/are a few games that actually benefit from a faster CPU on the Amiga, but even with a Blizzard060/PPC I've never found one that ran too fast, so it's not really a problem you have to worry about... :)
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 08:27:27 PM »
Generally,amiga games do just fine.

THere's a few exceptions I've come across. Syndicate runs faster but on an 030 it works great.
It seems Jaguar and Lotus runs faster too, but I could be mistaken there.

By and large you'll be fine though
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 08:40:38 PM »
The 030 is where 3d games (flat polys - flight sims, etc.) hit the sweet spot.  A10 Tank Killer becomes a joy to zip around in.  Wing Commander's a blast at that speed, too.

Perhaps some Amiga DOOM fans can pipe up about what kind of speed you'll see when you get into 030ville for FPS's...
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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 08:45:44 PM »
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The 030 is where 3d games (flat polys - flight sims, etc.) hit the sweet spot.  A10 Tank Killer becomes a joy to zip around in.  Wing Commander's a blast at that speed, too.

Perhaps some Amiga DOOM fans can pipe up about what kind of speed you'll see when you get into 030ville for FPS's...


the original user has a 600 which is limited.

My 030 experience on my 1200 (030/25) is:
AB3D runs great
Gloom and Fears, reduce screensize slightly and runs great.
Breathless runs okay at half size
Doom runs like it did on a 386. Dreadfull :)
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2010, 09:03:27 PM »
From the Buggy Boy WHDLoad installer info: If you think you're a legend at this game, try it with caches enabled on a grunty Amiga :)

Yes, did it with my 060. It works nicely with 68000. Guess the effect of 060...
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 11:09:26 PM »
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Hi Everyone,

Total newbie question sorry... I am going to purchase a ACA630 for my Amiga A600 when they become available but I am worried about it speeding up the games I intend to play so they are not as they should be / realistic.

I am only going to play a handful of games namely, Beneath a Steel Sky, Ruff N' Tumble, Theme Park, Syndicate and Choas Engine. There are probably a few more I cannot think of..!! I am just wondering if these are going to run at the correct speed? Whether the authors who produced these actually factored in a 'maximum' run/play speed to compensate for the various performance of Amigas at the time I am not sure. If I had to guess I would say the early games, no! But the newer games, yes! :)

I don't think I am that bother about WHload as I want to play most of my games from disk with the exception of Beneath a Steel Sky that I will install using it's own installation process..

Has anyone got any advice?

Thanks

Adrian

I had problems on my friends A4000 with cyberstorm 060 playing Dune II
I was overrun in the matter of seconds on the first mission.
Although a while ago, it was way to fast for me...

With my 030 (50mhz) 500+ cyndicate and dune II runs a lot faster that bog standard 68K. but still playable...
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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2010, 11:12:24 PM »
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I had problems on my friends A4000 with cyberstorm 060 playing Dune II
I was overrun in the matter of seconds on the first mission.
Although a while ago, it was way to fast for me...

With my 030 (50mhz) 500+ cyndicate and dune II runs a lot faster that bog standard 68K. but still playable...


Those problems are easily solved by either running the games as WHDload versions or using various degraders... :)
 

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Re: Games on an accelerated 030 Amiga?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2010, 11:14:28 PM »
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Those problems are easily solved by either running the games as WHDload versions or using various degraders... :)
Or by booting into 68k mode... :D

I must say, playing cyndicate on 030 was a bit of extra edge to the gameplay. a new level of "difficulty", so to speak...
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