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Offline nicholas

Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 03:57:06 PM »
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Trevor does not want to make competition to Acube (even if he could). He will make it more expensive to protect Acubes hardware sales (he mentioned something like that)


Then he isn't a very good businessman if that's his attitude.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 04:04:08 PM »
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Trevor does not want to make competition to Acube (even if he could). He will make it more expensive to protect Acubes hardware sales (he mentioned something like that)

Well then maybe someone else needs to pursue it.
But I'm not interested in this as an AOS4 machine.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 04:11:52 PM »
I cannot remember the exact phrases and he did not say how much more expensive. I think he was saying that he wants not to compete with Acube even if that would be possible. And that he would use the earnings for other related projects. And he said that the successor might be cheaper (as the X1000) but that is not certain. I assume that it will be similar to X1000 (my guess).
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 04:50:50 PM »
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I cannot remember the exact phrases and he did not say how much more expensive. I think he was saying that he wants not to compete with Acube even if that would be possible. And that he would use the earnings for other related projects. And he said that the successor might be cheaper (as the X1000) but that is not certain. I assume that it will be similar to X1000 (my guess).

With the plan he proposes it is impossible to make if for anything less
than 2250 $ (+- 100 $) with custom case mouse keyboard and all ...

It will certainly be more expensive than that ... CPU is just not the
biggest cost in this and I agree with Nicholas that in business dog
eats dog ...

I can only imagine how "happy" ACube was when they heard that
another hardware manufacturer was entering tiny tiny market ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 05:06:24 PM »
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Then he isn't a very good businessman if that's his attitude.

all I care about is he's a passionate amiga user 1'st and that to date he has done what he has said he would do:) ..now if certain 'businessmen' had accomplished half of what he has done for the Amiga community then.....you get the drift;)
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2013, 05:14:03 PM »
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all I care about is he's a passionate amiga user 1'st and that to date he has done what he has said he would do:) ..now if certain 'businessmen' had accomplished half of what he has done for the Amiga community then.....you get the drift;)

It is _my personal opinion_ that "he" could do a lot better if he really
wanted to ...

AmigaOne x1000 has split existing users and although I never liked ACube
strategy with Samantha no better at least ACube was always trying to
support all three camps to the best of their ability ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2013, 05:28:15 PM »
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all I care about is he's a passionate amiga user 1'st and that to date he has done what he has said he would do:) ..now if certain 'businessmen' had accomplished half of what he has done for the Amiga community then.....you get the drift;)

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2013, 05:32:32 PM »
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It is _my personal opinion_ that "he" could do a lot better if he really
wanted to ...

AmigaOne x1000 has split existing users and although I never liked ACube
strategy with Samantha no better at least ACube was always trying to
support all three camps to the best of their ability ...


my goodness now you are asking for miracles:crazy: my 'personal opinion' is that 'we' all can do alot better if 'we' really wanted to:razz: Trevor is a self-admitted big advocoate for AmigaOS and Amiga inspired OS's (AROS & MOS).    

seriously though, how in good faith did the X1000 split existing users?? I sold my Samflex@800 to buy a new X1000 because I wanted to & it fills my needs.  I also bought a dedicated netbook to run AROS (AspireOS) because I wanted to & it fills my needs. So where is the splitting part ??
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2013, 05:32:57 PM »
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Bill Buck acheived a hell of a lot more for our community but he was driven away by the pitch fork weilding village idiots.

Bill would still be willing to do something for the community (which shows his forgiving nature).
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2013, 05:36:20 PM »
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Bill would still be willing to do something for the community (which shows his forgiving nature).


Oh no, he's the devil incarnate.  How dare he fund the best coders our community had to write a modern OS for us and on top of that fund the development of quality hardware at decent prices.  The icing on the cake that proves he is indeed Satan is that he even gave away hardware for free to developers.

The very cheek of the man. How dare he indeed?
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2013, 05:37:07 PM »
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I can only imagine how "happy" ACube was when they heard that
another hardware manufacturer was entering tiny tiny market ...


They well divided the market segments, and its good - way better high end then SAM 460.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2013, 05:38:47 PM »
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Oh no, he's the devil incarnate.  How dare he fund the best coders our community had to write a modern OS for us and on top of that fund the development of quality hardware at decent prices.  The icing on the cake that proves he is indeed Satan is that he even gave away hardware for free to developers.

The very cheek of the man. How dare he indeed?


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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2013, 05:41:06 PM »
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Please remind me of this case.


Are you serious?
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2013, 05:45:16 PM »
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So its more or loess offical, there will be no amiga os4.1 notebook


I think it's more of a "maybe" just not what was originally thought.  He said they were putting those resources towards something else with a smiley afterwards so I'm hoping that means same idea, different, more cost effective hardware.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2013, 05:46:36 PM »
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my goodness now you are asking for miracles:crazy: my 'personal opinion' is that 'we' all can do alot better if 'we' really wanted to:razz: Trevor is a self-admitted big advocoate for AmigaOS and Amiga inspired OS's (AROS & MOS).    

seriously though, how in good faith did the X1000 split existing users?? I sold my Samflex@800 to buy a new X1000 because I wanted to & it fills my needs.  I also bought a dedicated netbook to run AROS (AspireOS) because I wanted to & it fills my needs. So where is the splitting part ??

My last post about AEon strategy for a while in news thread ...

2500 $ machine is not a dream of Morphos user and no Aros user will
buy it probably ( not developer , user ) , simple enough ?
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 26, 2013, 06:01:52 PM »
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I think it's more of a "maybe" just not what was originally thought.  He said they were putting those resources towards something else with a smiley afterwards so I'm hoping that means same idea, different, more cost effective hardware.
remember that the community, or rather the more sane part of it always pretty quickly guessed what the misteries are about. the cpu for x1k. the mysterious netbook was immediately identified as limebook. so far i know there is no mobile ppc hardware suitable for mbile rebranding. so they are likely looking at alterntives, while not seeng any.