Status report on AmigaOS 4.2 development

[smerf]

+1


Part of the reason I stopped paying attention to their updates a long time ago.

Before people troll.....

I require a PC. Everything I do, requires one. None of the software applications I use run on an Amiga (and don't start with "alternative applications.") I work in the (sadly "dying") VFX industry and that means I use what they use.

The Amiga is a hobby for me. While I would like to have one as a personal web browsing machine (preferably a laptop), I'm not willing to spend 3gs for a machine, when I can build an 8 core 4ghz machine that's decked out for half that and does all I need it to do and more.

That's one thing I've never understood about the "Red Camp" and why the "Blue Camp" makes more headway with a user base: they listen to people.

*shakes head*

Hi,

I am with you, I have been saying the exact same thing for the past 10 years and all I get is that I am a big troll.

But

You hit the nail right on the head.

smerf

[jorkany]

It is indeed - and they've left this absolutely huge hardware proposal unaddressed for nearly a year and a half now. If they're making announcements, I care more about knowing whether there will be an affordable OS4 machine sometime in the near future than about an update to an OS that only runs on machines I can't afford.

Given that OS4 has never made a dime and in fact is costing hundreds of thousands of Euros a year to keep afloat, I wouldn't spend a dime on this dead-end OS even if it ran on cheap PC hardware:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=35809&forum=33&start=120&viewmode=flat&order=0#702951

Development cost of roughly 100K euro per year since 2001 i.e. 12 years and running, expensive lawsuits (500K litigation cost).

Sorry but the shareholders are going to sit this one out and you can be glad that they do because they are the ones funding AmigaOS 4.x development for over a decade without any financial return.

[utri007]

Jorkany : What is your point? You dont use, I use, several others use, some more doesn't. Still what is your point? You don't understand that people has hobby OS? OR you try to convice people to stop suppoting OS4? Or what?

I wouldn't run OS4 with cheap x86 hardware, I run Windows with it, I even run OS3.9 with really expensive 68k hardware.

[XDelusion]

Given that OS4 has never made a dime and in fact is costing hundreds of thousands of Euros a year to keep afloat, I wouldn't spend a dime on this dead-end OS even if it ran on cheap PC hardware:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=35809&forum=33&start=120&viewmode=flat&order=0#702951

I image the case is the same with MorphOS, but stupid me, I keep holding on, I guess I just enjoy it?

[jorkany]

Jorkany : What is your point? You dont use, I use, several others use, some more doesn't. Still what is your point? You don't understand that people has hobby OS? OR you try to convice people to stop suppoting OS4? Or what?

I wouldn't run OS4 with cheap x86 hardware, I run Windows with it, I even run OS3.9 with really expensive 68k hardware.

The point is, there's no future in it. It's been pointed out by many that there is no profit in OS4 and it's at best on life support but realistically it's dead. Up until now that's just been "opinion", but now you're getting it through the official Hyperion channel.

The title of this thread is: "Status report on AmigaOS 4.2 development". Well, there's your status report.

But by all means, keep using OS4. Keep buying behind-the-curve hardware and investing in your fantasy that this is "Amiga".


@XDelusion,

I image the case is the same with MorphOS, but stupid me, I keep holding on, I guess I just enjoy it?

Difference is, MorphOS makes or breaks it on their own - MorphOS isn't masquerading as "Amiga" to try to make it appear to be something it's not.

[utri007]

So your point is based to fact that latest status update was just words and you conglusion is that there wount be OS4.2. At least you are strongly hinting so.

You are also hinting that I have some kind on fantasy about OS4, what you mean by that.

MorphOS is different thing it is Amiga if "needed" and it is not Amiga if it suits better for current  situation

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Ugh, so much negativity in this thread.  :-/

[yssing]

well the sam440 doesnt cost that much.
I know its far from as fast as the latest wintel based puter, but that puter cost alot more than the sam. And a windows licens cost about the same as AOS4.1 licens.

[utri007]

After ten years nobody wouldn't buy ten years old x86 hardware, but I'm prety sure that Sam 440/460 has still value €/$/£

OS4 is hobby OS and it future is to be hobby OS. Everything else is nonsense. Though I have to say that everyday computer stuff is done with it nicely, surfing web, watching some TV series etc.

[commodorejohn]

well the sam440 doesnt cost that much.
I know its far from as fast as the latest wintel based puter, but that puter cost alot more than the sam. And a windows licens cost about the same as AOS4.1 licens.

There's none on eBay for me to check right now, but I recall SAM boards fetching $500-800 typically (sometimes with the license, sometimes without.) The supposed price range for the netbook was going to be $300-500, which is a little closer to reasonable for a hobby purchase.

Yes, Windows machines (and Windows licenses) can cost more than that (though they can also be much cheaper,) but on the other hand they can do a whole lot more, and are much easier to use as one's daily driver. The standards for a hobby machine are different. MorphOS, utilizing used Macs that one can get for anywhere from free-off-the-curb to $200, and providing a full-fledged free trial of the OS, get that. Hyperion really doesn't seem to.

[yssing]

You can also buy a new SAM440.

What is it that windows can do, that you miss in AOS4.x? I use both on my office, and I don't miss anything in AOS4.x, but the SAM does boot into workbench in less than half the time, that my office PC uses to boot into windows.
And on top of that AOS4.x is alot more responsive than windows, not just by margins but by miles.

[ribdevil1]

+1

[antikk]

@commodorejohn
I've seen a qoupe of sam's in sweden going for about 385usd. One ep and one flex. I don't think thats an unfair price.

When i got my first sam440ep when it was still beta, i paid about 8000nok. When i later got my sam460ep i paid around 7500nok for a much better machine. So i feel that acube has given us better pricve/performance over the years. And probably will to if people support them.

[wawrzon]

So i feel that acube has given us better pricve/performance over the years. And probably will to if people support them.

how do you want to support them to give us a better price/performance ratio? with money?

[antikk]

By people buying their products offcourse. So they can make faster and better/cheaper hardware in the future.

[yssing]

how do you want to support them to give us a better price/performance ratio? with money?

well if you really wanted a system capable of running AOS4.x, you ciuld always support a-cube by actually buying a SAM system.