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Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« on: July 20, 2015, 08:42:57 PM »
We are pleased to confirm that we will stocking the new ACA 1221 accelerator and ram card from Individual Computers in early September.



This exciting new accelerator design features a full 68020 CPU, 9Mb of 32-bit Fast Memory (expandable to a maximum of 63MB) for a great price.

To find out more, please visit the AmigaKit.com product pages here to place your order:

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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 09:25:41 PM »
Nice!  Looks like it also includes an integrated port for the RapidRoad?  Very cool.  :)

For the benefit of other users, could you provide any more details on the "Overclocking options: 21.28 MHz or 28.38 MHz at extra cost"?  How does that work?  I don't see anything listed under "Configuration Options" besides whether to include the ACATune Utilitiy on disk or not.  Thanks!  :)
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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 10:18:09 PM »
My understanding is that the extra "Overclocking options" are available as a paid software upgrade, perhaps in the way of a flash download.
 

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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 06:38:30 AM »
The pay extra to give extra hardware capabilities (memory+speed) is very interesting approach.

Looking at the Amigakit site, I see "This product can be upgraded through a digital licence code upgrade after purchase"..

Maybe the extra cost is to cover warranty?  i.e. pushing the card hard introduces a higher percentage fail rate?

If so, I'm okay with that.
 

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 07:55:15 AM »
That really is a good price!

I guess it will also work with the ACA500? If so, it might be worth advertising that on the product page.
 

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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 08:46:31 AM »
Changed description. Thanks !
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 01:01:32 PM »
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Changed description. Thanks !

Any clues as to what the extra costs might be?
 

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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 01:55:35 PM »
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Any clues as to what the extra costs might be?


Quoting Jens here;

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Correct - it's a test of a new business model. If it's a success, I'll use it on future products as well.


21MHz overclock is 5,- EUR
28MHz overclock is 15,- EUR
Maprom is 5,- EUR
9MB->17MB upgrade is 8,- EUR
9MB->33MB upgrade is 15,- EUR
9MB->63MB upgrade is 22,- EUR

Upgrading from 21MHz to 28MHz and from mid-memory to higher memory is also possible, but I haven't decided on prices yet. All depends on the level of automation that I can implement.

Sales of these codes cannot start yet, as some EU tax details aren't covered yet (new EU laws about taxing download/digital products). Also, it wouldn't make sense to sell them before the actual card is there, as the serial number of the card must be entered to find out the license code.

Kolla: If it's cracked, it will just be cracked for a single card, and for the next, you need to do all the work again. Hardly worth the trouble for just over 40,- EUR.

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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 09:50:51 PM »
Accelerators with DLC´s is that a good idea?
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2015, 11:59:47 PM »
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Accelerators with DLC´s is that a good idea?


Jens has said that this the test of a new business model and if it's successful he'll use it for future products

These are the positive and negative points from my perspective.

Positive points:

The same board can be sold at different performance/price points meaning cheaper production costs, which benfit the customer.

The base model, at under £60, is the cheapest brand new A1200 memory card for a long while, if ever.

If you want more power and memory in the future it only costs about £30 to access the card's full potential, rather than having to spend a further £90 or more to buy a more powerful replacement card.

Negative points:

The psychologic aspect of accepting a different business model to what you have always been used to.  That only really has to be a problem for people who want it to be.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2015, 04:35:41 AM »
Interesting model and one that reminds me of how the "big iron" guys do it like IBM and HP. They sell you hardware sometimes with features already installed. Want to access them? Sure... just pay the extra license few and off you go. Don't need them, then no need to pay.

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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2015, 04:58:56 AM »
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Interesting model and one that reminds me of how the "big iron" guys do it like IBM and HP. They sell you hardware sometimes with features already installed. Want to access them? Sure... just pay the extra license few and off you go. Don't need them, then no need to pay.

I think this new model is going to raise a few more questions.  Such as is the license stored on the card, or on  your hard drive?  For example what if someone wants to sell the card, or transfer it to another machine, or if their hard drive crashes?  Also are the upgrades available at boot, or do they need to be activated by ACATune?  Not trying to knock the card in any way, just I'm very curious about it.  Best of luck with the new sales model!  :)
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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2015, 05:13:20 AM »
If it doesn't support the Rev5 A500 mobo, it's useless to me and a whole TON of other people. Then again, the ACA500 is useless to a Rev5 mobo, so this is already useless to me and a ton of other people.

A shame, really.
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2015, 06:12:07 AM »
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If it doesn't support the Rev5 A500 mobo, it's useless to me and a whole TON of other people.

Maybe he'll have worked out whatever the bug is, by the time the next Rev. of ACA500 comes out?  Dunno.  Funny that, all the A500's I've owned going back to the early '90s have always been Rev6.  I've never even seen a Rev5 board.  Luck of the draw, I suppose!  ;)
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Re: Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2015, 08:50:26 AM »
It's a nice card. I don't like the the 'pay extra' business model I thought most people here didn't like that DRM crap.
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