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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: DeviceNet on March 08, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
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Why in a world without walls and fences is there the need for windows and gates?!
Try to find milestone (david addison) pd / shareware
sure can get lha files, but WHY IN HELL LHA ffs KEEP IT BASIC to get the amiga tick. the purpose of lha seems illogical. ADF will work, lha wont hence that format is void.
seems like going from albany to perth via queensland! :madashell:
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There are ports of unlha for various platforms if you look for them...
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An ADF is much less convenient when using a real Amiga.
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moto
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Is it? Isn't there something like ADFOpus for the amiga?
There is adf2disk...
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seriously theres a better way,
cannot open lha in winuae NOT A DOS DISK!
have wb and abasic
why in hell must this be so complicated
cant ppl simply release adf instead of lha, or is spite of simplicity the bigger FISH to fry?!
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WinRAR can open LHA files.
And for use with winuae, get Amiga In A Box (AIAB), and put the files in a harddrive dedicated folder.
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DeviceNet wrote:
why in hell must this be so complicated
Because the Amiga is a computer line, like Apple. Not just a console.
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If its packed maybe it need a full up and running system (aka: Workbench)?
Lha/lzx its the standard, as said, just use WinRar.
Install something like AmigaSys, Amikit or ClassicWB for easy Workbench setup.
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DeviceNet wrote:
WHY IN HELL LHA
the purpose of lha seems illogical. ADF will work, lha wont hence that format is void.
cannot open lha in winuae NOT A DOS DISK!
why in hell must this be so complicated
It isn't complicated. You just are confused about/don't understand the use of Amiga fileformats.
LhA is an archiver, just like RAR or ZIP. ADF is also an archive type, but in a disk image format.
And like Speelgoedmannetje said: Amiga is not a console (and WinUAE is not a console emulator). If you want to do more with it than just load ADF files to play games then better read some manuals and learn about the Amiga. Or buy a Nintendo.
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the parameter in question was specifically why lha over adf - if it was avail in adf to run this topic would not have been created
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ok for example if i decompress
can i open the file from WB or Abasic (CHDIR etc?)
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DeviceNet wrote:
the parameter in question was specifically why lha over adf - if it was avail in adf to run this topic would not have been created
Well if its an Amiga DOS disk LHA will compact the files where ADF will make an image of the Disk so a LHA will probably be smaller than the ADF making it
1 - easier to download
2 - easier to transfer from PC to Amiga
3 - easier to unpack on an Amiga.
Also the files might run of Harddisk so it would be more pointless to transfer the files to floppy (or fake floppy) and then have to drag them from disk to harddisk when you can simply unlha them to a location of your choice.
NonDos Disks are unlikely to be LHA in the first place
Your question is more or less saying "Why have Zips when we have ISO's"
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LHA was the standard 'LONG' before ADF was ever
heard of.
If these are older files then naturally they would be LHA.
Mel
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DeviceNet wrote:
the parameter in question was specifically why lha over adf - if it was avail in adf to run this topic would not have been created
Probably because the file in not a disk in the first place. ADF's are Amiga Disk Files. Lha's are simply an archive/collection of files. Also, I hope you understand that if you have an lha of AmigaBasic games, it likely does NOT include AmigaBasic itself. For that you'll probably need an ADF with AmigaBasic on it.
It's no different than a PC. If you wanted to run some MicrosoftBasic games, you'll first need to get MSBasic running, then you need to get a ZIP with some games. Then unarchive the ZIP to a spot where MSBasic can find the files. Then have some fun.
With the Amiga it's the exact same process, just change "MicrosoftBasic" with "AmigaBasic" and "ZIP" with "LHA".
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motorollin wrote:
An ADF is much less convenient when using a real Amiga
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Is it?
I think so. If I want to get software out of an ADF I have to either mount a virtual floppy then use a utility to write it, or dig out a working floppy and write the ADF, then copy the software from the floppy to where I want it. With an LHA, I just extract it directly to wherever I want it.
To the original poster:
I don't really understand all this aggression towards software packed with LHA. Remember that most software on Aminet has been there for many many years, since way before ADFs existed. Do you expect all the authors to go back and re-upload their software in ADF format just for the benefit of people who can't be bothered to work out how LHA files work? :roll:
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moto
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McVenco wrote:
And like Speelgoedmannetje said: Amiga is not a console (and WinUAE is not a console emulator). If you want to do more with it than just load ADF files to play games then better read some manuals and learn about the Amiga. Or buy a Nintendo.
Or install Lemonade (http://www.lemonamiga.com/) with games from Back2theRoots (http://www.back2roots.org/Games/ADF-Games/)
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motorollin wrote:
I don't really understand all this aggression towards software packed with LHA.
I guess he/she's someone who used a plain Amiga 500 back in the day, only as a gamecomputer.
I can imagine that having to figure how everything works is kinda frustrating. Remember, when ppl are agressive in this way, they just need help :-)
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motorollin wrote:...Do you expect all the authors to go back and re-upload their software in ADF format just for the benefit of people who can't be bothered to work out how LHA files work? :roll:
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moto
EEK :-o ADF's and DMS files are great for ndos disks, but anything else, give me LHA anytime :-D
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To the original poster:
I don't really understand all this aggression towards software packed with LHA. Remember that most software on Aminet has been there for many many years, since way before ADFs existed. Do you expect all the authors to go back and re-upload their software in ADF format just for the benefit of people who can't be bothered to work out how LHA files work? :roll:
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moto
Plus, I don't think Aminet will even accept ADF's as they're a lot harder to test for viruses and stuff.
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Well i have tried to get this file to open...
in WB is says it has no default tool....
saw somewhere using a command line might work - all to no avail in CLI
so if i have WB & Extras how can this work (in winuae)
and i have heard about hard drive emulation - can and how can this work? - indeed i am used to having the A500 and bootable stuff -well at least via WB!
like someone sain in this thread said it is fustrating trying to work all this out
but once i know how and see it go, this wont be an issue
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@DeviceNet
There's no need to be angrified. Especially when it makes your verbs disappear.
You might as well be asking "why .zip instead of .iso".
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is there anyone out there who can make this ADF?
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:roll:
yes, you can. just format+install a diskette with suitable filesystem depending on your configuration, copy correct libs and you're off..
ADF sucks, DMS rulez :-P
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@dEVICEnET
DeviceNet wrote:
is there anyone out there who can make this ADF?
You can. First, unlha something, then put it on a disk, then adf it. Neat, huh? Seems a waste of effort, though. Guess how long it takes to find an unlha'er? Like 2 minutes.
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sounds easy....
too easy
i used winrar -which unpacked the files
from that to adf, would it be bootable - letalone the issue of pc drive to amiga drive issues
if what you say is true, i should be able to bang a disk on a pc and copy the extracted files to a disk, somehow which is auto booting
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was also interested how to load it to RAM Disk - have lha of program itself - given the program, wb and extras
surely something oughta click
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/adfopus (http://sourceforge.net/projects/adfopus)
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DeviceNet wrote:
sounds easy....
too easy
i used winrar -which unpacked the files
from that to adf, would it be bootable - letalone the issue of pc drive to amiga drive issues
I dont know understand what you are trying to do with this LHA.
Do you want it as an ADF to run on WINUAE or do you want it on a floppy disk to run on a real amiga.
If its the Amiga option what is your amiga setup
ie do you have a harddrive is it 500 600 or 1200 or other
Wow reading this back and I realise Im drunk Woopee for friday night
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....must....resist.... :boohoo:
(better say nothing)
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Could not resist...
Please take in some deep breaths and try to spend some time to *explain* your problem to those you expect some help from. Fuming won't get you very far.
What, exactly, are you trying to do? What kind of program are you trying to use? Where did you download it from?
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Fish Disk 0028 .lha - trying to run this on winuae
i now got as far as seeing it appear as a disk icon on WB but no icons in the box it brings up!
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DeviceNet you are a total lamer.
Why the hell do we need ZIP files, why not distribute all IBM software as dozens of floppy disk .img files??
If I have a 1K file you want me to put it on an ADF and waste 879K? You fool.
I think you had better email the Aminet administrators and tell them to start converting all their LhA's to ADFs, they will be so grateful to you for such a brilliant idea...not...Better snail mail them a few hard drives though to store all those extra pad bytes...
I also suggesting applying for a job at Microsoft, they will like your ideas for bloated and inefficient ways of storing files.
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@minuous bit harsh
@devicenet unlha the files to a folder and if you cant see them use rmb and show all files