Amiga.org

Amiga.org specific forums => Amiga.org Discussion and Site Feedback => Topic started by: Wayne on June 04, 2009, 02:30:01 PM

Title: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Wayne on June 04, 2009, 02:30:01 PM
I realize the inherent dangers involved, but since I lack the ability to restrain myself, I have been thinking....

Everyone here knows my hesitation in getting involved with projects surrounding a certain couple in (or around) this community.  There's no sense in rehashing that hatred, as it's well documented as are the reasons for it.

That being said, I begin to worry if my personal issues regarding those two aren't -- in a way -- doing harm to the Amiga community (what remains of it anyway)..

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, that's ok, I'm about to 'splain...

What I am considering is creating a set of forums, links, and, gallery directories for MorphOS users, in the hopes of bringing them back to the ORG, and hopefully resolving some of the division that I'm sure I've helped to cause over the years.

I realize that this is an "Amiga" site.  I am *not* talking about changing that, but I beg you to remember that every member of the MorphOS community was once a very vibrant Amiga user who was run off by the inaction of Amiga Inc and the availability of a product "in their hands" that promised to do what Amiga Inc never did.

------------------
THAT BEING SAID
-- I know this is a very sensitive subject, and I know people are going to be prone to bring up the "red versus blue" crap.  I am asking politely for us to have a discussion, but will not tolerate that crap being brought up in this thread.
------------------


We're all adults, and should be able to discuss our differences without venom and immaturity.  The Amiga (as a generality) is a hobby and doesn't warrant such childishness.

I'm not going to do anything without a general consensus on the site, but need to find a way to solicit that guidance from you without re-igniting the silly infighting.

What say ye?

Wayne
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: buzz on June 04, 2009, 03:22:05 PM
well, morphos might not have an Amiga name on it, but it looks, smells and feels like amigaos to me. It is relevent and interesting to read about (sometimes), as are AROS and OS4 etc :)
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: ferrellsl on June 04, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
I was "out" of the Amiga community during the years of conflict between the Amiga and MorphOS camps.  Recently,(2007) I dug up my A1200 from storage and also purchased a PegII.  So, having missed all the years of the contention, I actually feel like an outsider looking in at the conflict.  And as an outsider, I'm still wondering what all the fuss has been about.  For those who may or may not have been shafted by Genesi, Thendic, bPlan, et. al., I understand your hard feelings.  But from a user of both Amigas and MorphOS systems, I'm at a loss as to why so many casual users, hobbyists and programmers want to fight.  I love my Amigas and I love my PegII.  I have OS4.1 and MorphOS 2.2 on my PegII.  I have OS 3.9 on my A1200.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's always room for diversity.  The fact that there is  alternative hardware and software out there to run OS4/Morphos only serves to strengthen the Amiga community (I include the MorphOS community in there).  From my perspective, the disagreements appear to be strictly subjective in nature since OS 3.9, OS4.1, MorphOS, and AROS share much of the same codebase.  Whether or not one person prefers Ambient over Workbench is meaningless.  It's a personal preference and we should all be thankful that we have a CHOICE!!!
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: koaftder on June 04, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
MOS, Aros, Amiga, Classic, they're all part of the same family.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: xeron on June 04, 2009, 03:57:44 PM
To be perfectly honest, I didn't realise this site didn't cater for MorphOS.

I'm happy for MOS to have forums etc. here.

I always thought of Morphzone serving the morphos community, Amigaworld.net serving the OS4.x community, and Amiga.org serving everyone anyway.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: koaftder on June 04, 2009, 04:05:34 PM
Look at that, 16 to 0 on the votes. Looks like we have some MOS love around here. Cool.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Matt_H on June 04, 2009, 04:13:26 PM
In principle, reuniting the community is a fantastic idea. But is creating a separate MorphOS-related section the best way to go about that? I just wonder if it would end up being underused and having to be folded back into another forum (as with the recent combination of the Desktop Video and Audio forums).

I ask because I already use the existing forums for occasional MorphOS-related discussions, an arrangement that seems to have worked out fine.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Wayne on June 04, 2009, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;509166
In principle, reuniting the community is a fantastic idea. But is creating a separate MorphOS-related section the best way to go about that? I just wonder if it would end up being underused and having to be folded back into another forum (as with the recent combination of the Desktop Video and Audio forums).

I ask because I already use the existing forums for occasional MorphOS-related discussions, an arrangement that seems to have worked out fine.
Hi Matt,

To be honest, I can't answer your questions without knowing how other people would react.  Last thing I want to do is try and mix oil and water (proverbially speaking).

What I was thinking was setting up different sections, like I did with the news forums.  Example;


Like I said, this might be a colossal pot stirring for no soup, but it's a thought, and an offer *IF* people think they'd use them.

Wayne
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Nickman on June 04, 2009, 04:35:31 PM
Never liked the "split" of the comunity in the first place... and never understod it either. IMHO MOS/AROS/AOS/OS4/UAE are all amiga related and will fit in here.  

MOS was THE successor for Classic AOS for a long time before OS4 came into the picture. There is a reason lots of great Amiga gurus/developers jumped on MOS in the begining.

Rest is what you say... history :)
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: HammerD on June 04, 2009, 04:37:58 PM
I don't think there is any harm in having a section for MorphOS.  Many of us use it anyway and MorphOS dev's already post on this site.  I think it's a good idea.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Karlos on June 04, 2009, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: xeron;509164
To be perfectly honest, I didn't realise this site didn't cater for MorphOS.

I'm happy for MOS to have forums etc. here.

I always thought of Morphzone serving the morphos community, Amigaworld.net serving the OS4.x community, and Amiga.org serving everyone anyway.


Agreed. TBH, I always thought the Red vBlue stuff was completely pointless and silly anyway.

I would hope that pretty much everybody that took a side originally is happy enough with it by now not to feel the need to bash the opposite side.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: spihunter on June 04, 2009, 05:17:16 PM
I have always seen amiga.org as an Amiga neutral site anyway.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: dammy on June 04, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
"Other Operating Systems" should be "Emulators" IMO.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Matt_H on June 04, 2009, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: Wayne;509172

Like I said, this might be a colossal pot stirring for no soup


Good metaphor.

My suggestion would be to keep the organization as it is, but make it clear that all branches of the Amiga family are welcome therein. I like to think that we've gotten to the point where someone uninterested in MorphOS or AROS would simply skip such threads in the same way a PPage user might skip a thread on PageStream, or vice versa.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: GadgetMaster on June 04, 2009, 05:49:13 PM
The community is too small to have fragments keep fighting each other.

Plus we are all (hopefully) over all that silly Red v Blue nonsense. It didn't get anyone anywhere.

If this community is to survive we have to put all that behind us.

Great initiative Wayne and I hope it is one that is successful. :)
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Homer on June 04, 2009, 07:22:38 PM
I want to know about everything Amiga orientated in one place. Here :laughing:
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: CountRaven on June 04, 2009, 07:52:28 PM
Everything rolls arround Amiga. No matter if we speak about MorphOS, AmigaOS, AROS etc. Everyone has preferences -for example I prefer MorphOS- but there is no reason for any division.

It all sounds Amiga to me :)
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: DiskDoctor on June 04, 2009, 08:16:14 PM
MorphOS forum - that's what I lacked in the previous version.

BTW as said here, MorphOS is closer to the classics than AmigaOS4.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Karlos on June 04, 2009, 09:16:50 PM
Quote from: DiskDoctor;509220
BTW as said here, MorphOS is closer to the classics than AmigaOS4.

Can we dispense with any off-hand remarks like this? This is totally-off topic, it is subjective and potentially incendiary. Attitudes like this are precisely what caused the bad atmosphere and split in the first place. IMO, as neither run on any m68K CPU, they equally distant from the classic line.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Wayne on June 04, 2009, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: Karlos;509225
Can we dispense with any off-hand remarks like this? This is totally-off topic, it is subjective and potentially incendiary. Attitudes like this are precisely what caused the bad atmosphere and split in the first place. IMO, as neither run on any m68K CPU, they equally distant from the classic line.
Thank you very much.  I was about to say the same thing when you hit submit first.

Wayne
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: B00tDisk on June 04, 2009, 09:36:04 PM
Yes with a "but" -

My concerns are the remarks like DiskDoctor - look, pal, nothing good can come of that and you know it.

So it's clear that there's a certain segment who can't keep their yaps shut, even when talking about talking about adding a Forum.  It just so happens that this time, it was a morph-os cheerleader.

Other point: Bill Buck.  Man, if you even say "pegasus" or "morphos" that guy shows up like Beetlejuice and spams with links to "their" 'blog.

As long as the mods can quash those two things, I'm happy with the addition of a morph os forum.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Wayne on June 04, 2009, 09:42:56 PM
Quote from: B00tDisk;509228
Yes with a "but" -

So it's clear that there's a certain segment who can't keep their yaps shut, even when talking about talking about adding a Forum.  It just so happens that this time, it was a morph-os cheerleader.

Ok.  Let's stop.  Calling someone a cheerleader is also a big part of the problem.  Can't you see that?  Whether intended innocently or not, it is still a wedge between the community.

Quote
Other point: Bill Buck.  Man, if you even say "pegasus" or "morphos" that guy shows up like Beetlejuice and spams with links to "their" 'blog.
I'm amazed you don't already know / remember this, but Bill Buck and Raquel Velasco are persona non-gratis on this site, unless they are willing to write the checks owed to those who put our lives on hold then got royally screwed by them in 2002/2003, myself included.

Again, old crap, doesn't need to be brought up, so let's drop it, but that's where I stand on your concerns.  I am much more concerned about the community (all of us) than I am a couple of dishonorables.

Wayne
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Karlos on June 04, 2009, 09:51:07 PM
Back on topic, I think forums catering for the various strains of what I think I'll call "the Amiga family of operating systems" (or TAFOOS) is ideal.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: kolla on June 04, 2009, 10:20:17 PM
Wohoo! The war is on! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: GadgetMaster on June 04, 2009, 10:20:17 PM
Quote from: Karlos;509233
Back on topic, I think forums catering for the various strains of what I think I'll call "the Amiga family of operating systems" (or TAFOOS) is ideal.

TAFOOS?   You been near the marketing guys again? I think you caught something. :lol:
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Wayne on June 04, 2009, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: GadgetMaster;509242
TAFOOS?   You been near the marketing guys again? I think you caught something. :lol:

I can just hear it now... "Shut TAFOOS up!"  :roflmao:
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Karlos on June 04, 2009, 11:23:45 PM
See, you're getting it :D

Where TAFOOS mah new forum, eh?
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: GadgetMaster on June 04, 2009, 11:45:41 PM
Wa TAFOOS goin' on 'ere den?  :laughing:
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Retro_71 on June 05, 2009, 01:04:19 AM
I too got back into Amiga's Late so i missed the Whole Blue Vs Red Stuff and quite frankly don't care/want to know about that.
But i do want to know about MorphOS and Since Amiga.Org is my main Amiga Forums i would like to see posts about all things to do with Amiga's. So yes please add.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: drewz21 on June 05, 2009, 02:32:19 AM
I think any and all Amiga related activity/discussion is good.  Keeps people interested.  Bring MORPH back home!
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: amigadave on June 05, 2009, 03:32:51 AM
Like many, I missed out on the worst of the Red vs Blue war and for a long time did not understand it, nor did I want to take days reading all about it so I could understand what all the fuss was about.  Over the last few years I have learned little bits here and there, enough to give me the impression that there was enough blame to go around on all sides and bad behavior on just about everyone's part, in some way or another.  What I did learn though, was that the divide and bad feelings were much deeper than I had imagined, so I no longer write naive postings hoping for the two sides to drop their feud and join forces on just one Amiga-Like system.  Now I just hope for an uneasy truce and a "Live and let Live" attitude, so there is no more damage to this tiny and ever shrinking group of computer enthusiasts.

I have always thought of A.org as a tolerant place where the two sides could voice their opinions and views without the flames that get thrown at some other sites, or at least not as one sided for either camp and usually snuffed out more quickly.  This site has been and continues to be my number one place to come for all things Amiga and I think Wayne deserves much credit for keeping it so informative and friendly.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: CountRaven on June 05, 2009, 04:04:00 AM
Quote
Bring MORPH back home!


Was Amiga.org the home of MorphOS before MorphZone? Yeap I am too young in the Amiga scene -lets say two years- and have missed all the old wars...
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: B00tDisk on June 05, 2009, 04:10:00 AM
Quote from: Wayne;509230
Ok.  Let's stop.  Calling someone a cheerleader is also a big part of the problem.  Can't you see that?  Whether intended innocently or not, it is still a wedge between the community.


Wayne, you're absolutely right, those were words (or, rather, that was a word) badly chosen by myself, and I apologize for it.

Quote

I'm amazed you don't already know / remember this, but Bill Buck and Raquel Velasco are persona non-gratis on this site, unless they are willing to write the checks owed to those who put our lives on hold then got royally screwed by them in 2002/2003, myself included.


I knew there was some bad blood but I wasn't sure what the nature of it was, so, understood.

Quote

Again, old crap, doesn't need to be brought up, so let's drop it, but that's where I stand on your concerns.  I am much more concerned about the community (all of us) than I am a couple of dishonorables.
Wayne


Gotcha.  Onward and upward, sarh!
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: redfox on June 05, 2009, 05:04:03 AM
I think this is a great idea.  I'm not sure if it is necessary to set up different sections.  I can see it would be a way to group topics together in an easy to find forum setting.  But, I can also see Matt's point as well.  As Matt indicated, he has used the existing forums for occasional MorphOS-related discussions, and it seems to have worked out fine.

Unfortunately, I do remember the red vs blue stuff.  I arrived on the scene after it was already in progress.  Many unfortunate things were said, as well as alot of trolling and cheep shots from both sides.  I even got in a few cheep shots myself, and took a few hits as well.  Then there was a mass exodus to another site.  It all seems so silly to me now.

---
redfox
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: coldfish on June 05, 2009, 06:44:42 AM
Yes:66 to No:5.

You could learn a lot about human nature by looking at the Amiga community over the last 20 years.  Its not all good, but this is a positive step.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: DiskDoctor on June 05, 2009, 09:47:09 AM
Quote from: Wayne;509230
Ok.  Let's stop.  Calling someone a cheerleader is also a big part of the problem.  Can't you see that?  Whether intended innocently or not, it is still a wedge between the community.

I'm amazed you don't already know / remember this, but Bill Buck and Raquel Velasco are persona non-gratis on this site, unless they are willing to write the checks owed to those who put our lives on hold then got royally screwed by them in 2002/2003, myself included.

Again, old crap, doesn't need to be brought up, so let's drop it, but that's where I stand on your concerns.  I am much more concerned about the community (all of us) than I am a couple of dishonorables.

Wayne

* EDITED:

I wasn't doing marketing of MorphOS here, just JUSTIFIED its presence according to the timeline that I seem to know.
I do not under any circumstances claim any Amiga-like systems' superiority.
I am forced financially not to have a choice here (I mean the system).
I hate calling people names alas 99% people do this... well, I don't :-)
I missed the war, if I was in it I wouldn't have chosen my side anyway.
I apologize even though I didn't do anything.
I apologize for living.
I apologize for apologizing.

Hallelujah!
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: jj on June 05, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
To be honest I have not read this whole thread, only wayne's original post.  The reaosn being I knwo there will be some name calling and bitching in here and it will make me sad.
 
I had always thought we catered to everyone on this site. thats why I have always stood up to anyway who flames morphos thread etc on this site, you know the people I mean.
 
I am more than happy for Morphos forums on here. Share the love, share the friendship, share the knowledge share the diversity.
 
Thats is what life is all about difersity, knowledge and love.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: GadgetMaster on June 05, 2009, 12:54:08 PM
Quote from: DiskDoctor;509348
* EDITED:

I wasn't doing marketing of MorphOS here, just JUSTIFIED its presence according to the timeline that I seem to know.
I do not under any circumstances claim any Amiga-like systems' superiority.
I am forced financially not to have a choice here (I mean the system).
I hate calling people names alas 99% people do this... well, I don't :-)
I missed the war, if I was in it I wouldn't have chosen my side anyway.
I apologize even though I didn't do anything.
I apologize for living.
I apologize for apologizing.

Hallelujah!



That's the spirit. When someone offers you an olive branch it's nice to be positive. :)
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Karlos on June 05, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
TAFOOS aren't exactly setting the real world on fire. Why attempt to evangelize one over any of the others?

I'll happily run any of them.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: zylesea on June 05, 2009, 01:47:06 PM
Quote from: CountRaven;509314
Was Amiga.org the home of MorphOS before MorphZone? Yeap I am too young in the Amiga scene -lets say two years- and have missed all the old wars...


Nah - TeH real (TM) home was http://www.ann.lu - that was a cool place back in time. At no other place the red/blue fights were as fierce as at that place.

Honestly, after MorphOS was not welcomed by everyone in the Amiga scene but got strong and increasing hostilitiy by some certain individuals, sails were set and I guess the first site for MorphOS was http://www.morphos-news.de by David Scheibler. A bit later morphzone.org appeared and earned its comunity share.  

IIRC amiga.org was always quite tolerant and here those fights just didn't happen. Thus, no need to explicitly include MorphOS and AROS here. In my book they were always part of the story here...
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Karlos on June 05, 2009, 01:54:44 PM
Quote from: zylesea;509377
IIRC amiga.org was always quite tolerant and here those fights just didn't happen. Thus, no need to explicitly include MorphOS and AROS here. In my book they were always part of the story here...


Having sub forums where issues specific to each OS is generally preferable (for ease of navigation and categorisation), I'd say. It isn't essential but it would help avoid confusion.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: cicero790 on June 05, 2009, 03:17:14 PM
To come here and also read about other branches of Amiga is great IMHO. You might rejuvenate a diffrent part of the Amiga interest. The idea is pure gold. Long live Wayne.
Then ppl write about problems and solutions with different Amiga fields, its interesting.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Wayne on June 05, 2009, 04:12:46 PM
Based on an 81 to 5 ratio, I think it's a pretty clear indication of how our members want this to go.

Right now, the deed is done, on an EXPERIMENTAL basis.  If you guys lose your cool or start calling each other names, I can easily turn it all back off and go back to SNAFU.

I know this might get a little confusing.  There seems to be a bit of overlap in our forums now, but here's the way I've got it lined up currently (I'm open to suggestions)...



We'll try this and see what happens.  If you see anyone get out of line, PLEASE help us out by using the "report post" function.  We can't watch everything, all the time.

My only real concern is that McEwen has a habit of popping up when least expected and demanding that anything not Amiga specific be removed from any site with Amiga in the name (he'd be fully justified -- no debates please, that's a statement, not a request for comment --  but it would leave us with a choice of comply, or shut the whole site down). Feel free to ask Davey D about that.

To be very clear and very honest about it, my intent here is to try and get the Amiga community back together, no matter what they run.  It's not anyone's fault that Amiga Inc has failed to produce a viable desktop alternative, meaning that while the trademark issues are sketchy, they don't actually have any competition since they're not producing a desktop platform.

Since Amiga Inc is not supporting or developing for the desktop (and they are completely ignoring the community), I cannot possibly see how trying to help Amiga users could be a conflict of interest or in "bad faith".  

For the record, while I hope they will tolerate these actions in the interest of uniting the Amiga community, I will absolutely reserve the right to take whatever steps are necessary to protect the site should that happen.

Enjoy, and have fun.

Wayne
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: DiskDoctor on June 05, 2009, 05:53:29 PM
Well as shown on cases above, Terms of Use should be possibly changed under specific conditions.  Quarreling about classics or within AmigaOS is pretty fine.  But to prevent cease-fire denial, I think it (those specific issues you said) need to be clearly stated in a ToS.

I mean it.  Just to make sure that Amiga.org is now a demilitarized zone (DMZ) :lol:
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Wayne on June 05, 2009, 06:49:01 PM
Quote from: DiskDoctor;509397
But to prevent cease-fire denial, I think it (those specific issues you said) need to be clearly stated in a ToS.
We have both a moderation policy and ToS in place (see site info below) which draws attention to the "this is my house" rules of order.

Wayne
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: motrucker on June 15, 2009, 11:24:00 PM
I too must have been somewhere else when this split happened. Thus, I never understood it.
I think Wayne's idea is a noble one, that make sense. So I guess I would add another - try it.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: ffastback on June 15, 2009, 11:35:13 PM
Quote
My only real concern is that McEwen has a habit of popping up when least expected and demanding that anything not Amiga specific be removed from any site with Amiga in the name (he'd be fully justified -- no debates please, that's a statement, not a request for comment --  but it would leave us with a choice of comply, or shut the whole site down). Feel free to ask Davey D about that.

Since Amigaworld.net already does this (has an Alt OS forum for MOS/AROS/Anubis), hopefully that won't be a problem.  (Crossing fingers).

I like the idea of Amiga related sites being open to all.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: koaftder on June 16, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Quote from: ffastback;511459
Since Amigaworld.net already does this (has an Alt OS forum for MOS/AROS/Anubis), hopefully that won't be a problem.  (Crossing fingers).

I like the idea of Amiga related sites being open to all.


Don't hear much about Anubis on this site. Glad to see you bring it up. A nice Amiga like ObjC API floating on top of the linux kernel. Hope the guys can get it off the ground, it's got potential to suck in folks from outside the amiga enthusiast sphere.
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: Argo on June 16, 2009, 02:07:00 AM
What's wrong with alittle Red vs. Blue (http://rvb.roosterteeth.com/archive) action? The Blues are so incompetent!
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: NovaCoder on June 16, 2009, 03:51:06 AM
Quote from: Wayne;509149
I realize the inherent dangers involved, but since I lack the ability to restrain myself, I have been thinking....

What I am considering is creating a set of forums, links, and, gallery directories for MorphOS users, in the hopes of bringing them back to the ORG, and hopefully resolving some of the division that I'm sure I've helped to cause over the years.

I realize that this is an "Amiga" site.  I am *not* talking about changing that, but I beg you to remember that every member of the MorphOS community was once a very vibrant Amiga user who was run off by the inaction of Amiga Inc and the availability of a product "in their hands" that promised to do what Amiga Inc never did.

What say ye?

Wayne


I think that's a great idea Wayne.  I'm a 'new' Classic Amiga user so I don't know much about what has happened in the past but it sounds good to me.  I've already seen Classic applications that have been back-ported from MorphOS so it makes sense to be able to tap into those kind of resources.

Don't forget to also include gallery directories for AROS users, you can never have too many pictures to look at :)
Title: Re: (RFD) Olive branches and reuniting the community? (MorphOS / Amiga)
Post by: jahc on June 16, 2009, 08:04:29 AM
It doesn't matter whether you use the OS4 WookieChat binary, or the MorphOS WookieChat binary.. the important thing, is that you all use WookieChat.

Note: the author of this post is only half serious. He hopes you get the serious message.