Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?

[Lord Aga]

btw: 2 teams of ppl have acquired numbers of those 060s and they really can go 100Mhz and they are real 060s.  Some have FPU some don't.  I think only the nonFPU chips can reach 90Mhz but I can't remember right now.

Yup. It's Mc68060fe133.
Kinda weird looking, and lacking MMU (FPU?), but legit, and capable of 100+ MHz clocks.

[Blinx123]

Jens has already indicated that FPGA is the way to go for high-end cards.

I wish people stopped indicating and started doing things.

[Rob]

:laugh1:


u r joking, right?

There's certainly some counterfeiting going on so it wouldn't surprise me if they were.

[ChaosLord]

Yup. It's Mc68060fe133.
Kinda weird looking, and lacking MMU (FPU?), but legit, and capable of 100+ MHz clocks.

Yeah I want one of the "slow" ones that is limited to 90Mhz but has MMU cause I needz it 4 my debuggin

[Hattig]

It's getting tough to source quantities of 68060s, don't expect anything there.

And the 68040 is a hot chip. I had an A1200 25MHz 68040 accelerator back in the day, and it had a fan and it was noisy and barely fitted in the trapdoor.

Maybe the FPGA Arcade softcore will evolve to a state where it competes in overall performance with a 68040 or even higher, and then Jens could create an ACA12FPGA running that soft core, using a modern FPGA to get the most performance out of the soft core. I wouldn't worry about putting money aside for that right now though. Hopefully he can find some more 50MHz+ '030s for more 56MHz ACA1230s.

I don't have much faith in the Natami project to come through with their 68050 however.  The project is pretty much dead.

[Lurch]

Bought the ACA-1231. Looked at the ACA-1232 but it's a slower card, 64MB RAM should do me fine with a 68030 for the meantime, plus Ill be getting 9+ Mips which is great for most things where the ACA-1232 is 7 odd Mips?

Anyway, it's new hardware so can't complain. Just have to wait for it to turn up boohoo.

Although a 68060 would be great. But that will be next year and it'll be a second hand card :-( An FPGA would be the way go, would be cheaper?

[amiga-penn-wchester]

what is it that you ppl want to do on an amiga w/ AmigaOS with a 68060 that you can't do with an o'clocked 030 w/128+ megs ram?

just curious.

[AmigaClassicRule]

what is it that you ppl want to do on an amiga w/ AmigaOS with a 68060 that you can't do with an o'clocked 030 w/128+ megs ram?

just curious.

A lot.

[NovaCoder]

what is it that you ppl want to do on an amiga w/ AmigaOS with a 68060 that you can't do with an o'clocked 030 w/128+ megs ram?

just curious.

DosBox, ScummVM etc etc

[Cosmos]

If you can get ahold of an Apollo 040 or 060 card then Cosmos can mod it into an 80Mhz 060 for u.

Ohohoho ! 80 Mhz is too slow... I reach 105 Mhz since a long time with 50ns Simm !!

==> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqefbQMRQx0&feature=g-crec-u


And 90 Mhz with my Blizzard 1260 :

==> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCGV1twOSDI&feature=g-crec-u

[amiga-penn-wchester]

engines/emulators with the 060?  I guess I can see that.  I personally did not see much difference in the wholesale computing capability from 030 to 040  | and then from the 040 to the 060, I've had them all with up to 256M ram...

It was nice to say that I could run mame 0.35 or whatever under 060, or unzip stuff faster, but beyond that I couldn't see the overall advantage in it for anything other than a retrocomputing novelty.

same can be said for PPC - a few utils here and there...

if you are talking about highly optimized assembly routines and programs for 040/060 then I guess you have a point, esp when coupled w/ some of the overclocked 060s I'm hearing about.  Those apps are few and far between, however.

[Lurch]

I would probably be very happy with my 68030. But it's kind of cool and fun at the same time to be able to run something other than WHDLoad games. Quake would be fantastic, anyway we'll see.

[WolfToTheMoon]

It's curious that Motorola never did a process shrink of the 040(or did they), which would have solved the heating issue...

First 060 chips were 0.6 microns and they don't overclock nicely. Second gen is 0.42 and lastly, latest revisions made in 99' are 0.32 - these will overclock to 100+ MHz easily. Atari guys seem to run them comfortably well over 100 MHz with SDRAM.


With this in mind, it was possible to make a 0.35 micron 060 in late 95/early 96 - this would have allowed speeds up to around 100 MHz and would have made 68K Amiga competitive, CPU wise, with Pentium P5 PCs and early PPC  Apple machines. A shame that Motorola dumped 68K.

[yssing]

I am very happy with my 060, but would like one with higher clock and better RAM.

If Jens made an ACA1260 I would seriously consider buying one

[Crumb]

I am very happy with my 060, but would like one with higher clock and better RAM.

If Jens made an ACA1260 I would seriously consider buying one

I would be interested on an ACA 060 if it included some SATA ports with DMA, PIO isn't fun

[Iggy]

Yup. It's Mc68060fe133.
Kinda weird looking, and lacking MMU (FPU?), but legit, and capable of 100+ MHz clocks.

Nope, sent an inquiry to Freescale about the part number.

Return message stated the following:
"I can confirm that MC68060FE133 is not a valid Freescale part number".

Who are you going to believe, the company that designed the 68K series or some Chinese vendors?

These are probably relabeled 75MHz MC68EC060s (which lack an FPU).
That chip can be successfully overclocked to 90 or 100MHz.

But that does not alter the fact that the fastest 68060 ever produced was only rated for 75MHz.