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Title: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 08, 2004, 10:48:03 PM
Hello everyone,

Due to popular request, I've just spent the last half an hour putting together a QEMU hosted version of AROS Max v020 for MSWindows.

It's easy to use, just run the self extracting archive and double-click the winaros.bat file to run AROS-Max in a window. It's quite speedy too, a lot faster than I thought it would be.

I need somewhere to upload the archive to. Any offers?

Nik
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: amigean on December 09, 2004, 12:15:19 AM
Excellent news! Well done! Any good news for AROS is good news about for amiga. AROS is amiga's only hope - it'll still be here long after ppc OSs have vapourised...

I am sure Holley wouldn't object to hosting it on the official aros-max website:

..

Holley should see your message soon - it may be worth posting about it at www.aros-exec.org too.

Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Acill on December 09, 2004, 12:34:52 AM
Nice, now how about an OS X hosted version for those of us that dont use a Windows based system?
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 09, 2004, 12:41:15 AM
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Acill wrote:
Nice, now how about an OS X hosted version for those of us that dont use a Windows based system?


If you send me your Mac, then it can be arranged! :-)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 09, 2004, 12:43:50 AM
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amigean wrote:
Excellent news! Well done! Any good news for AROS is good news about for amiga. AROS is amiga's only hope - it'll still be here long after ppc OSs have vapourised...

I am sure Holley wouldn't object to hosting it on the official aros-max website:

..

Holley should see your message soon - it may be worth posting about it at www.aros-exec.org too.



Thanks, I posted over there first, but thought posting here would get some free publicity! :-D
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 09, 2004, 05:38:01 PM
www.AROS-Max.co.uk (http://www.AROS-Max.co.uk) should be back up and running tonight by all accounts, so the win hosted version will be available for download shortly after.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: dammy on December 09, 2004, 06:28:08 PM
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Nice, now how about an OS X hosted version for those of us that dont use a Windows based system?


I have no clue on it's current status, but it is being worked    on (http://www.thenostromo.com/teamaros/bounty_details_15.html)*.

PPC Linux hosted, OTOH will hopefully be released anytime soon.  

Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.thenostromo.com/teamaros/index.html)

*. I've losted email contact with the Dev since he moved to the States about two months ago.

Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: whabang on December 09, 2004, 07:51:18 PM
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I need somewhere to upload the archive to. Any offers?

I can set up a 1 mbit-mirror pretty fast.
How large is the archive, BTW? Spreading it by bittorrent might be a good idea.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 12:03:00 AM
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mdma wrote:
www.AROS-Max.co.uk (http://www.AROS-Max.co.uk) should be back up and running tonight by all accounts, so the win hosted version will be available for download shortly after.


Mac OSX version will be ready in a couple of days. :-)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 12:12:53 AM
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whabang wrote:
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I need somewhere to upload the archive to. Any offers?

I can set up a 1 mbit-mirror pretty fast.
How large is the archive, BTW? Spreading it by bittorrent might be a good idea.


It's roughly 80MB.  It'll be up on www.arosmax.co.uk in ten minutes.  If you could mirror it that would be great.  

Torrent is also an excellent idea, i've no idea how I'd go about seeding one though.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Cajun_Man on December 10, 2004, 12:49:51 AM
Will there be a .iso version or is it just going to be in a .rar format?

I have better luck with .iso files.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Acill on December 10, 2004, 01:21:20 AM
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Mac OSX version will be ready in a couple of days. :-)[/quote]

Wow thats great! Is it as up to date as the PC version?
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 01:22:04 AM
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Cajun_Man wrote:
Will there be a .iso version or is it just going to be in a .rar format?

I have better luck with .iso files.


Neither.  It's a Windows hosted version.  You just download the executable and run it. It really couldn't be easier. :-)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 01:22:48 AM
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Acill wrote:


Mac OSX version will be ready in a couple of days. :-)[/quote]

Wow thats great! Is it as up to date as the PC version?[/quote]

Yup. Exactly the same version.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 01:23:19 AM
It's now up for all to download.

Use this link

http://www.aros-max.co.uk/windows/WinAROS-Max020.exe (http://www.aros-max.co.uk/windows/WinAROS-Max020.exe)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Karlos on December 10, 2004, 01:28:30 AM
Am I the only person on this forum who has no idea what AROS-Max is?

Before anybody starts too close to the beginning, I do know what AROS is ;-)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 01:36:08 AM
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Karlos wrote:
Am I the only person on this forum who has no idea what AROS-Max is?

Before anybody starts too close to the beginning, I do know what AROS is ;-)


AROS-Max is to AROS what BeOS-Max is to BeOS! :-P

Why don't you download it and see? heheh
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Karlos on December 10, 2004, 02:52:34 AM
80MB is a bit hefty for dialup. Can you just tell me?

I never used BeOS, but know what it is, so your description has me stuck in a cyclic loop. Better tell me before my brain locks up :-D
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Effy on December 10, 2004, 03:56:20 AM
I´m now downloading it at a speed between 220 and 320 KB/s ... should be done in just four minutes ...
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 03:57:28 AM
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Karlos wrote:
80MB is a bit hefty for dialup. Can you just tell me?

I never used BeOS, but know what it is, so your description has me stuck in a cyclic loop. Better tell me before my brain locks up :-D


Well, seing as your on dialup! ;-)

As you know AROS is a base operating system, AROS-Max is kind of like a linux-distro for AROS if you will.  AROS + lots of software + configured nicely and bug tested.

Why don't you download it at work tomoz? It runs in a windows hosted in ms windows.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 03:59:36 AM
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Effy wrote:
I´m now downloading it at a speed between 220 and 320 KB/s ... should be done in just four minutes ...


Have fun!

Gimme feedback too please.

Don't forget about http://www.aros-exec.org (http://www.aros-exec.org) the community portal for AROS.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Pyromania on December 10, 2004, 05:40:09 AM
I just tried this and it is damn nice! Where and how much do I need to donate to the project to get listed as one of the sponsers on the about AROS tab?
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Damion on December 10, 2004, 08:15:19 AM
Just downloaded, works perfect (and very fast) here.

Cheers mdma :pint:

Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: whabang on December 10, 2004, 09:28:45 AM
I'll start seeding it through Bittorrent tonight!
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Georg on December 10, 2004, 11:32:06 AM
To avoid confusion. QEMU hosted means that it's the x86 native version running under the PC emulator QEmu. So it's a bit different from the Linux hosted version, which runs completely native. Or from a possible but not yet existing real Windows hosted version which would also run completely native.

Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: swift240 on December 10, 2004, 12:28:01 PM
Downloading at a speed of 128 KB/s.

I shall be glad to see how this works out....

Should be fun on a P4 1.9Gig CPU, hopefully...... :-)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Cajun_Man on December 10, 2004, 12:49:41 PM
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mdma wrote:
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Cajun_Man wrote:
Will there be a .iso version or is it just going to be in a .rar format?

I have better luck with .iso files.


Neither.  It's a Windows hosted version.  You just download the executable and run it. It really couldn't be easier. :-)
Sorry I got my files mixed up.   :-o

I was thinking of when I tried downloading the one you were supposed to un-rar and then burn to a cd. 0.20 I think it was,  I never could get unrar to find any files in the archive.  I downloaded it twice.

Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: amiga1260 on December 10, 2004, 03:44:54 PM
I downloaded it, but I don't have sound. I have a Soundblaster live soundcard.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: dammy on December 10, 2004, 05:22:03 PM
You may want to post this problem on AROS-Exec.org (http://aros-exec.org/modules/news/)'s  AROS-Max section.

Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.thenostromo.com/teamaros/)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: whabang on December 10, 2004, 05:28:42 PM
Torrent download (http://thepiratebay.org/download.php/3263681/WinAROS-Max020.exe.torrent)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: cecilia on December 10, 2004, 08:34:10 PM
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mdma wrote:
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Karlos wrote:
Am I the only person on this forum who has no idea what AROS-Max is?

Before anybody starts too close to the beginning, I do know what AROS is ;-)


AROS-Max is to AROS what BeOS-Max is to BeOS! :-P

Why don't you download it and see? heheh
I don't know what the heck that means either....but as I've wanted to run AROS on my laptop, this sounds like it!
downloading even as I type!
 :-D
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 10:02:50 PM
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amiga1260 wrote:
I downloaded it, but I don't have sound. I have a Soundblaster live soundcard.


AROS doesn't have an AHI driver for the soundcard in the emulated machine.  It doesn't matter what soundcard you physically have.  This package is just an emulator running the i386-native CDROM ISO of AROS-Max in a window.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 10, 2004, 10:05:57 PM
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cecilia wrote:
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mdma wrote:
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Karlos wrote:
Am I the only person on this forum who has no idea what AROS-Max is?

Before anybody starts too close to the beginning, I do know what AROS is ;-)


AROS-Max is to AROS what BeOS-Max is to BeOS! :-P

Why don't you download it and see? heheh
I don't know what the heck that means either....but as I've wanted to run AROS on my laptop, this sounds like it!
downloading even as I type!
 :-D


Hope you enjoy it.

I can't take much credit for this, all I did was package the ISO up with the QEMU i386 JIT-Emulator and write a quick batch file to run it.  Took me all of half an hour maximum! :-)

I just thought that this would put AROS out to people who wouldn't have tried it otherwise.  All publicity is good as they say! ;-)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: whabang on December 10, 2004, 10:21:06 PM
I am going to stop seeding the torrent for a while, as I am going to do some on-line gaming. There are other seeders, though, an I will continiue seeding later tonight.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Holley on December 10, 2004, 10:51:22 PM
Wow, I go away for a couple of days and look what happens! :-D

Any visitors to the Max homepage (http://www.aros-max.co.uk) can now see a proper Windows page there, with Par2 files just in case you get a broken download.

I'm also working on a FAQ that should explain most of everything to anyone that doesn't follow AROS quite so closely :-) (including what to do to get the Native version burnt right)

Well that almost made sense ... catch you all later :-)

Oh yeah, thanks go to Nicholas for putting this together - hopefully the Mac emulated copy will open things up to a bunch more people too!
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: whabang on December 11, 2004, 12:33:30 AM
Seeding again...

WOW! There is really a HUGE interest in this! :-o
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 11, 2004, 12:54:46 AM
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whabang wrote:
Seeding again...

WOW! There is really a HUGE interest in this! :-o


Great news, the more people that try out this version the better.  It might lead to some ex-Amiga coders who were otherwise unaware of of AROS to start helping out with coding.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Coder on December 11, 2004, 06:40:25 AM
@mdma

Great work! This is what I need. :-)

Coder
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Holley on December 11, 2004, 07:08:52 PM
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There is really a HUGE interest in this!
Tell me about it - when 0.2.0 was released we got through 40Gb of downloads (never mind the Torrent downloads), hence the need for a new ISP ... first question heard was 'is there a windows hosted version?' !

Anyway, there's a link to Olivier's existing Torrent tracker on the Website's download pages, and the Par2 files in the same place can be used if a Torrent download comes out broken.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 11, 2004, 08:35:51 PM
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Holley wrote:
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There is really a HUGE interest in this!
Tell me about it - when 0.2.0 was released we got through 40Gb of downloads (never mind the Torrent downloads), hence the need for a new ISP ... first question heard was 'is there a windows hosted version?' !

Anyway, there's a link to Olivier's existing Torrent tracker on the Website's download pages, and the Par2 files in the same place can be used if a Torrent download comes out broken.


Based on the file size of roughly 80Mb, thats round about 500 downloads! :-D
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Cajun_Man on December 11, 2004, 09:15:57 PM
Was just curious about a couple of things,  I have a dual boot of Windows XP and Linux on a AMD64 3500+ system.  I am using a Nvidia 6800GT card.  

When I boot into Windows and I run the program, I get three choices, If I try the one that has (nvidia) in it, it gives me a bunch of text and ends with what says is a guru.  I'll have to re-boot into Windows and try again to write down the exact error.

But if I pick the first or third one, I get a desktop, a better looking one when I use the first one.  

Was just curious as to know would it be because I am using a 6800GT card and it may be too new for AROS-Max?  I'm using the drivers that came with the card.  I could try either an older driver or a newer one.  

I'm hoping to get a chance to download the one that I would burn to a cd and try booting directly into it to see it that way.  Or is the .iso file that came in this package the same one that is on the site where I downloaded this?



Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Holley on December 11, 2004, 10:00:00 PM
The copy of AROS thats under Windows is running in a PC emulator (it's a whole virtual PC!) that can't access your hardware directly, hence the NVidia mode doesn't work.  The Vesa mode should be ok, and show whats what though ;-)

In the folder of WinAROS-Max the ISO file is the full 0.2.0 file, so burning it and booting it you might be able to use the NVidia mode (not sure about 6800 support, I know the definitions are getting an update soon though).  It works nicely with GeForce cards :-)

MDMA - we've moved 14Gb of data in the last day!
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 11, 2004, 10:08:28 PM
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Holley wrote:
The copy of AROS thats under Windows is running in a PC emulator (it's a whole virtual PC!) that can't access your hardware directly, hence the NVidia mode doesn't work.  The Vesa mode should be ok, and show whats what though ;-)

In the folder of WinAROS-Max the ISO file is the full 0.2.0 file, so burning it and booting it you might be able to use the NVidia mode (not sure about 6800 support, I know the definitions are getting an update soon though).  It works nicely with GeForce cards :-)

MDMA - we've moved 14Gb of data in the last day!


And we are frontpage news on osnews.com thanks to 4play! :-D

Once I've got the OSX version up and running (should be early-mid next week time permitting) it'll be instersting to see if more people download the Mac version than the windows one! :-D
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Cajun_Man on December 12, 2004, 12:16:17 AM
Cool.  Got to find me a spare CDRW to burn this on and try booting it up.  

Thanks.

Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: JetFireDX on December 12, 2004, 01:19:15 AM
This is good to see happening. I have tried AROS on every PC I have around the house as well as VirtualPC and QEmu on my PC and my Mac every time there was an update or a change in one of the emulators. It has always worked well for me and been speedy in Qemu. Nice to have it all in a tidy package though now.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Holley on December 12, 2004, 08:16:28 PM
Nice to know I'm not the only person that it 'just works' for :-D

17Gb moved today by the way (!)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Cajun_Man on December 13, 2004, 09:53:24 PM
Well, I burned the ISO to a cd and apperantly the default mode of the nvidia choice is too much for my monitors as I get a screen mode out of range on both monitors I have hooked up to the 6800GT.

The first menu choice boots fine, but the 2nd one puts my monitors out of range.  I have a Samsung SyncMaster 192N LCD and a NEC MultiSync LCD1700V hooked up and both use a 31-80 Khz and 56-75 Hz, and the nvidia selection tries to use a much higher number than either of these monitors can handle.  

I tried hitting e on the boot menu on the second option, but didn't see anything I could edit that would not make the screenmode use a high frequency rate.  Plus I'm thinking on going back to a single monitor setup.  

I have noticed though when booting up the first option, after I try a few things it will suddenly quit responding.  The mouse pointer moves, but nothing on the screen will change and one time a line striped down the middle of the screen.  Happened once in the middle of one of the games, and once just as I quit another game.  I don't know if it has anything to do with I am running a AMD64 3500+ cpu with 1 Gig dual channel memory.  

Although I think this Motherboard may have a problem as I'm not getting the normal sounds you usually get when it boots up.  The problem was my fault as I did something that may have killed that part.   So as soon as I can replace the motherboard I'll try again and see if I still get that sudden lockup then.


Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 14, 2004, 12:33:09 AM
@Cajun Man

Try assigning an IRQ to the VGA card in your BIOS, and set plug and play os to NO.

I had similar problems on another pc and that fixed it.
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: Holley on December 14, 2004, 01:33:34 PM
For the NVidia refresh rate, by default it is pretty high (like 70Hz or something).  I've only tried it using an LG StudioWorks 15" monitor, it worked but I had to adjust the settings to get it looking right.

I've had AROS running without a reboot on a vanilla Intel chipset machine without problems for 2 to 3 hours at a time, and only reset to clear stuff off the screen.  Let us know how you do with the IRQ and/or your new MB, hopefully it'll work better :-)
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: bloodline on December 14, 2004, 07:19:33 PM
SO!!!! How are people getting on?!?!? :-D
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: on December 14, 2004, 07:24:06 PM
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bloodline wrote:
SO!!!! How are people getting on?!?!? :-D


I've been waiting for you to pop up! :-D

Have you had a play with it?
Title: Re: Windows hosted AROS-Max, now available!
Post by: bloodline on December 14, 2004, 11:53:21 PM
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mdma wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
SO!!!! How are people getting on?!?!? :-D


I've been waiting for you to pop up! :-D

Have you had a play with it?


I've been away for a week, we rented a small villa in France and set up a recording studio there, we got three songs recorded, great fun but I only got about 4 hours sleep a night... I'm totally drained :-(

No I've not tried your little Qemu thingie yet, as I have a machine dedicated to running AROS :-D... but I will as soon as I've recovered :-D