Can't get WHDLoad games to run on A4000 '060

[asrael22]

Hi.

I'm not certain what else I can try.
I have an A4000D here with A3640 doughterboard but it has a 68060 mounted.
It's running Amiga OS 3.9BB2.

When I start a WHDLoad game it starts, but after a few seconds it freezes where I can only make a reset.
With Elite for example, I can see the Elite spashscreen, showing the Cobra MK3, etc. but it just hangs there. All games I tried are like that.

I have tried a number of WHDLoad options, like MMU, NOMMU (which doesn't really work on 68060), NOVBRMOVE, NOCACHE, NOAUTOVEC, etc.
But nothing helps.

What could this be?

Manfred

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Do you have a TCP stack running, USB running, or a GVP Spectrum graphics card?  All of those things have been known to cause conflicts on some systems.  Also I would make sure you're using the latest version of WHDLoad, slave files from a known-good source, and have everything properly installed.

Beyond that, sometimes you just gotta play around with the options a bit.  Good luck!  

[klx300r]

on my A1200 I got it working after I disabled my USB stack (Poseidon) but on my A4000 with CS-MKIII I had the same issues as asrael22...game woud start and then hang and the only thing I was able to do was use the Quit key to get back to WB..I eventually ended up using my A1200 for my gaming/WHDLoad machine

[asrael22]

Hi.

Do you have a TCP stack running, USB running, or a GVP Spectrum graphics card?  All of those things have been known to cause conflicts on some systems.  Also I would make sure you're using the latest version of WHDLoad, slave files from a known-good source, and have everything properly installed.

Beyond that, sometimes you just gotta play around with the options a bit.  Good luck!  

I have Roadshow installed. But I have to manually activate it.
Also USB is installed, but it's also not loaded by default.
Graphics card is a Picollo-SD64 card.

It would really be great if I could get it working on that machine.
The slaves and WHDLoad itself is OK. The same games work properly on other Amigas.

Well, I guess I have to try some more.


Manfred

[asrael22]

on my A1200 I got it working after I disabled my USB stack (Poseidon) but on my A4000 with CS-MKIII I had the same issues as asrael22...game woud start and then hang and the only thing I was able to do was use the Quit key to get back to WB..I eventually ended up using my A1200 for my gaming/WHDLoad machine

I can't get back to WB. The system seems hang really. I can only do reboot.


Manfred

[asrael22]

I can't get back to WB. The system seems hang really. I can only do reboot.
Manfred

Interestingly I just had a game from Amiga Forever that came with a WHDLoad version 15.x, and I just got a black screen but could quit with the QUIT key.
The same game using the latest WHDLoad version just froze, no quitting possible.

Manfred

[utri007]

Hi.

Graphics card is a Picollo-SD64 card.

Problem with GVP Spectrum and whdload is not a card itself, it is Picasso96. It generates same problem than TCP/IP and USB stacks. It doesn happen with every RTG card. My xPert Merlin doesn't have any problems with WHDLoad games.

I know have (not in use currently) GVP SPectrum, it works nicely with WHDLoad if CyberGraphX is used.

Piccolo also uses Cirrus Logic chips, not same than Spectrum but could it be reason for problem?

[smerf]

Is it a pal game, you may have to set the Amiga 4000 for pal, I use Software Huts degrader package, works, but sometimes you may have to play with it for hours to figure it out. Like with Arctic Fox it was memory, then it was Floppy Drive speed timing, (yeah thats right rotten to the core EA checks for the speed of your drive, and then for extra drives) expansion cards, graphics cards and the OS, don't even think of running this game on OS 2.0 or higher, plus it checks for NTSC. I set memory for 256 K. So copy protection is a big bug for the Amiga. I once had a saying, "if it has copy protection, I will find a way to break it and copy it" but won't waste my money on it, all the stuff I purchased had no protection. I do the same for PC computers, but today most of their stuff is sold on Steam and I belong to them.

[asrael22]

OK. A simple test. Removed the monitor driver from devs restarted and then the games work.
So it seems to be the Picasso96 thingy.
Unfortunate, but I can live with this. At least I know how to make it work.

Thanks,
Manfred

[utri007]

OK. A simple test. Removed the monitor driver from devs restarted and then the games work.
So it seems to be the Picasso96 thingy.
Unfortunate, but I can live with this. At least I know how to make it work.

Thanks,
Manfred

There is a CyberGraphX driver for Piccolo use it! You can forget problem after that.

[Kawazu]

What version of picasso96 are you using?
When i ran with a proemetheus setup with a voodoo 3 i had to use this version of picasso to get whdload to work.

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

[utri007]

What version of picasso96 are you using?
When i ran with a proemetheus setup with a voodoo 3 i had to use this version of picasso to get whdload to work.

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

When I had that problem, I found that I would need to install very old version of Picasso96. But trying unofficial version woun't cost anything.

[klx300r]

OK. A simple test. Removed the monitor driver from devs restarted and then the games work.
So it seems to be the Picasso96 thingy.
Unfortunate, but I can live with this. At least I know how to make it work.

Thanks,
Manfred

 interesting as I didn't have my RTG card installed and had  basically the same issue ?

[asrael22]

What version of picasso96 are you using?
When i ran with a proemetheus setup with a voodoo 3 i had to use this version of picasso to get whdload to work.

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

Yeah, I'm using that one. 2.1e.

Manfred

[asrael22]

There is a CyberGraphX driver for Piccolo use it! You can forget problem after that.

Hmm. I would. The only problem is that CyberGraphX still seems to be sold, hence it's not free to download, or?


Manfred