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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: Amithony on March 27, 2008, 09:28:18 AM
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I pretty much know the answer, but what if someone finally got the gears in motion somewhere? Should we not be hassling them more often?
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Good afternoon all,
I was wondering if you guys were collecting statistics on the amount of Amiga equipment that is being bought and sold on ebay? Some of the items are selling for more than their original value! Do you think that maybe sometime in the future Amiga will ever return to the hardware side of things? I seem to have to ask every time ownership changes hands.
regards,
Anthony
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They won't care.
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moto
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motorollin wrote:
They won't care.
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moto
Can they sell it to someone who does though?
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they have no vision or any ideas just people trying make buck out other peoples ideas 2 a penny really.
on a more sad note, l read where motorola are in real trouble
seems sad for great company made the 68000 series cpus and ppc chips with ibm . but guess thats life things have there time and amiga is the same boat, way to late know the world has moved on. cell phones and consoles are where the new ideas are going. but forget it amiga inc u havenet got anything anyone wants. go sell life insurance or real estate hehe
:-)
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Is it motorola that are in trouble, wouldnt be suprised as their mobile phones are cack.
Is Freescale also in trouble ?
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I wonder if the day will come when we really do need to bury the Amiga. How long can the components and disks last? Is there any way that a more interested party can buy them out?
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i get sick of hearing stuff like this. don't you ever think amiga are owned by someone who is being paid not to succeed??? think about it people!
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monami wrote:
i get sick of hearing stuff like this. don't you ever think amiga are owned by someone who is being paid not to succeed??? think about it people!
Persistence beats resistance. I reckon its still worth trying. Would you be looking to offload your amigas in the next few months? :)
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i think they were long ago took over by a nameless (cough.)big os corp who don't want to see them up again.
nope. i won't be selling my amigas. or anything i need amiga wise. and will look for success in elbox or any hobby offerings...
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was on osnews apprently the motorola group has been spilt in 2 , with cell phone division seprate.
apprently its a insider at motorola spilling the beans on some tragic and details of company in real trouble
l hope u dont mind me pasting this link for anyone intrested
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/26/motorola-insider-tells-all-about-the-fall-of-a-technology-icon/
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@JJ
Motorola sold off its semiconductors branch to freescale i believe
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I don't really pretend to understand KMOS. They went to a huge amount of trouble to circumvent creditor and former employees salary payments and keep the Amiga name yet they don't really seem interested in anything to do with Amiga. As the owner/renter of the Amiga name they are really the only ones that can provide an official definition of what Amiga is.
Without someone to lead there is no unified way forward and so the retro path is the only way, and how long will that last? Retro is nice, having Natami will solve some of the collector issues, but it's really just re-inventing the past. AROS is thinking about the future but being so tied to the past is going to sink them too.
It takes a vision, a spark of ingenuity every bit as strong as the first time to see the road ahead and design Amiga 2, the next Amiga. Amiga Inc has no vision and wastes time with phoney offers to name stadiums and dotNet development in India.
We need a Jay Miner and there is none in sight.
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What all is going on with the lawsuit? I don't recall reading anything about it for some time now.
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In my opinion (in a young person language)
Amiga Inc are Mongs!
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Argo wrote:
What all is going on with the lawsuit? I don't recall reading anything about it for some time now.
They've been forced into court-appointed mediation.
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@ achtung_bab: you know if it's modern cpu chips in that deal or just 6500-based junk and such?
Note: the people commenting that article seems to be oblivius of the fact that Motorolas core buissness is not mobile phones but the G3-G5 line and the military/security buissness contracts it brings as the (only?) high-performance cpu with an encrypted bus.
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JetRacer wrote:
@ achtung_bab: you know if it's modern cpu chips in that deal or just 6500-based junk and such?
no sure buddy just read the news story, am no expert on there biz , is intresting though u forget other companys get mis managed too , l know been alot talk about commodore and what happend to them, l wonder why the orginal engineers that designed the amiga or dave hynie how come he didnt push for somone to put out the triple a chipset.
Note: the people commenting that article seems to be oblivius of the fact that Motorolas core buissness is not mobile phones but the G3-G5 line and the military/security
l thought ibm went it alone with the psx3 cell processor or is this motorola design l forget, l know ibm motrorla partership ended years ago.
even steve jobs and mac left the ppc fold l read where there no good for desktop use . there must be reason mac went intel.
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I have an idea. Everyone should register on Amiga's website as a developer and if they ask for company name, put "Amiga.org". In other words, stand and be counted and let them know that there are people willing to buy a new Amiga. Let them see us in numbers.
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ChuckT wrote:
I have an idea. Everyone should register on Amiga's website as a developer and if they ask for company name, put "Amiga.org". In other words, stand and be counted and let them know that there are people willing to buy a new Amiga. Let them see us in numbers.
I don't want to shoot you down, but any dealings with Amiga Inc is a waste of time. full stop.
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SamuraiCrow wrote:
Argo wrote:
What all is going on with the lawsuit? I don't recall reading anything about it for some time now.
They've been forced into court-appointed mediation.
Were they not in mediation before all the sueing?
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Guru mediation?
Sorry! :-)
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As much as I hate to rain on the parade of any Amiga enthusiast at this late stage of the game, there is very little if any interest from Amiga Inc in seeing a desktop version of what we would consider "an Amiga". Hardware or otherwise
IMHO, what we've seen towards 4.0 and the whole Hyperion fiasco (and ensuing lawsuit stupidity) has been solely put forward by AI because;
1) They wanted to be able to say they had a "vibrant community"
2) We literally rebelled against their PDA games scheme (aka Amiga Anywhere) in DEMAND for a desktop platform.
3) Now that the Hyperion fight is on, for Amiga Inc it's more a matter of defending the trademarks than getting anything viable out of it (other than what they paid Hyperion for initially).
On the other hand, we as a "community" have proven to be somewhat of a very strong burden to Amiga Inc wherein the "armchair lawyer society" (ala the moobunny crowd) and "calling up Snoqualmie city leadership to tell them how stupid they are to be involved with Amiga Inc" kinda way.
It's not as though they haven't earned every bit of our skepticism and ire (ahem... $50 t-shirt scams, 8 years of broken promises, etc) but at this point, Amiga Inc seems to be about as relevant the 100,000 FEMA trailers sitting and rotting in various spots around the USA.
I'm not trying to hijack the thread. Just pointing out what I see from my perspective.
Wayne
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@ Wayne: well, if the current trend in the community continue (with certain nice projects) then we won't have to depend on overpriced stuff sold by wannabe-corporations propelled by lawyers in squirrel wheels.
Let them slugg it out 'til bankruptsy and maybe we can just steal everything when they lack the doe to do anything about it. So in essence: the more reason you see to complain about the situation, the closer AInc comes to it's own death and a subsequent free-for-all.
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monami wrote:
i think they were long ago took over by a nameless (cough.)big os corp who don't want to see them up again.
nope. i won't be selling my amigas. or anything i need amiga wise. and will look for success in elbox or any hobby offerings...
Yes. But why did GeoWorks Ensemble take them over?
Just joking. I knew you meant really big compared to Amiga. So the question remains, why did BeOS take them over?
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This is your only chance to drive Amiga Inc. to envy.
Issaquah, Wash. - August 28, 2007 – Amiga, a global presence in gaming software and multi-media platform development, announced today that Fran Dramis, former Chief Information, Ecommerce, and Security Officer for BellSouth, has joined the Amiga advisory board. Mr. Dramis will play an integral part in shaping the company’s application and hardware development strategies as the company expands its technology to multimedia applications and operating system enhancement.
People's intentions can be found in what they say. Amiga's intentions is to use chips in mobile phones because it would make it a powerful cell phone. Do you see anyone on the board that would make Amiga a powerful computer? In order to insure there is a future of Amiga, you have to drive them to envy. After the lawsuit is over, they are going to lick their scrapes and decide whether it is worth building computers because it is hard to compete with Microsoft and Intel since practically all the other computer manufacturers gave up.
Get on the developer list and be counted.
bloodline wrote:
ChuckT wrote:
I have an idea. Everyone should register on Amiga's website as a developer and if they ask for company name, put "Amiga.org". In other words, stand and be counted and let them know that there are people willing to buy a new Amiga. Let them see us in numbers.
I don't want to shoot you down, but any dealings with Amiga Inc is a waste of time. full stop.
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get on the aros developer list and do something that is worth anything nowadays. help develop aros or apps for aros or help with docs etc.
let amd, via, intel and various others spend billions developing our hardware for us.