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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: Arkhan on February 05, 2011, 12:32:29 AM
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What kind of new games do you want to see most for the Amiga?
Platformer, Shooterdoom, FPS, adventure, RPG?
DISCUSS.
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I voted RPG but my preferred answer would have been "Yes, Please!" Also, to save times, can they be programmed to check ocs/ecs/aga status and play nice accordingly?
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The 2 I am working on :roflmao:
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I voted RPG but my preferred answer would have been "Yes, Please!" Also, to save times, can they be programmed to check ocs/ecs/aga status and play nice accordingly?
I dunno, probably.
I've never really programmed an Amiga much before. I'm working on it, haha.
I'd like an idea of what kind of stuff people want so I can plan accordingly.
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What about strategy games? Like Settlers, Foundation, Napalm, etc
I prefer them above all other genres. :)
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Strategy games and RPG types would be highest on my list.
Though more games in the style of Cannon Fodder and Alien Breed respectively would be rad.
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What about strategy games? Like Settlers, Foundation, Napalm, etc
I prefer them above all other genres. :)
Yeah Where's TBG , strategy
I'd like a super bad MechFORCE thank you very much.
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@Arkhan: I'd rather you revise your original post. Addressing the forum in general as ******* personally offends me. Dunno about the other users, but you don't know me, and i don't know you! So please mind your language...
Thanks...
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RPG's for sure, though FPS's are always a nice addition, but they were not given as an option.
As for side scrolling and vertical shoot em ups.
NO PLEASE! The Sega Dreamcast's plate is already full of them. :)
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Pretty much any of the above would be cool, really. I've been enjoying some quality classic shooters on my MSX and it'd be nice to see one tailored more for the Amiga's capabilities. It'd also be fun to see an RPG in the style of one of the really good, game-focused console RPGs (and maybe in something other than a fantasy setting at that.) But I think what I'd most like to see is a platformer in the "Metroidvania" vein - solid action with an emphasis on exploration and discovery. That'd be quite a lot of fun.
Of course, I'd like to do a few of these myself, but that'll be at some undetermined future date...
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Yeah Where's TBG ,
What is the definition of TBG?
strategy
I'd like a super bad MechFORCE thank you very much.
I wrote the original Battledroids Construction Set. But then George Lucas explained that he legally owned the 5 letters "droid" so it was renamed to Battlemech Construction Set. That was back around 1983.
I have been adding 2 Battlemechs and other SCIFI units into Total Chaos lately, just for fun and flavor :)
I am not interested in making a direct ripoff of FASA game.
However if someone out there wants to design the stats and descriptions and strengths and weaknesses for a whole bunch of Battlemechs then we could team up and create a Battlemech Destruction Set mode for Total Chaos!
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:ak47::flak:
:laugh1::biglaugh::banana:
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@Arkhan: I'd rather you revise your original post. Addressing the forum in general as ******* personally offends me. Dunno about the other users, but you don't know me, and i don't know you! So please mind your language...
Thanks...
I don't even remember what I wrote to be honest, but, lighten up.
I guess I forgot about strategy games. To me, making strategy games is a pain. Coming up with the mechanics so that its not a broken disaster is tricky. I'd probably be cheating and using a different game system thats already in place, without telling anyone... >_>
Like a simplified Games Workshop system, with new names for everything.
Also, I hate Settlers. After many weekends of playing the real one with all the addons across multiple tables, and dealing with nasally voiced, neck beard, mouth breathing bastards, I no longer have any urge to play that game, ever.
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I don't even remember what I wrote to be honest, but, lighten up, sissy.
nasally voiced, neck beard, mouth breathing bastards, I no longer have any urge to play that game, ever.
nice, reminds me of why I think your such a ****>
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Speaking of RPG's, I wonder why work on the classic Amiga port of Exult (Ultima VII) was never continued?
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Also, I hate Settlers. After many weekends of playing the real one with all the addons across multiple tables, and dealing with nasally voiced, neck beard, mouth breathing bastards, I no longer have any urge to play that game, ever.
That sounds about right
nice, reminds me of why I think your such a twat.
Methinks you haven't played tabletop settlers in the States if you think Arkhan speaks non-truth! :lol:
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well, he speaketh the truth, it's the name calling i object to ;)
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well, he speaketh the truth, it's the name calling i object to ;)
Which part, neck-beard or mouth-breather? :laughing:
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well, he speaketh the truth, it's the name calling i object to ;)
You called me a twat. At least I didn't direct my name calling at anyone in particular. :D
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I'd love to play a modern Wing Commander type game on the Amiga, what ever happened to Lambda (http://www.illuvatar.demon.co.uk/lambda/LMain.htmlhttp://www.illuvatar.demon.co.uk/lambda/LMain.html) as well as RTS games, I wounder if Clickboom would open source Napalm so that people could first make a port for OS4/Morph/Aros and then add more mission packs like maybe the planned Euro Burns that would be cool.
Other than that puzzle games like lemmings, I've always loved Push Over as well. Good fun mind thinking games. Do you think world of goo would ever come on Amiga? Maybe someone could make a game similar and call it world of boing balls!
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Yep, I'm missing strategy games/space sims.
I like to see Frontier First Encounters for the Amiga.
Also a sequel to Millenium 2.2 / Deutors.
Utopia III ?
I can think of more, but this is what I like to see.
What about strategy games? Like Settlers, Foundation, Napalm, etc
I prefer them above all other genres. :)
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Can you do a mix? Horizontal platform game with lots of RPG elements. Did you play Batman the movie and Robocop... I love how it includes minigames between levels.
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I really liked the mix of stategy/world sim and side scroller they used in Actraiser for the SNES...
More games like that would be cool!
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I don't even remember what I wrote to be honest, but, lighten up, sissy.
You just can't keep it polite, can you?....
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Damn... the one time I fall asleep and Arkhan starts a thread... :(
What's all these nasty bad words he's been using (I missed them)... :(
Dunno why some folk find such things offensive, after all they are nothing more than a collection of letters from the alphabet, they can't hurt you... :)
Unless of course they happen to be painted on a huge sign that falls on your napper when walking down the street, that could hurt... :)
Anyway I voted for "I don't want new games. I'm dumb." mainly cos I've still got well over 5000 games in my collection that I've never got round to playing yet and not because I'm dumb (which I am, by the way)... :)
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What a dumb poll. I don't want anything of those, but I want top down racers, strategy games, peaceful building/growing games (where you grow cities, imperium, roads, grass, snails or similar stuff) and all should be multiplayer games (serial, tcp, local).
(I didn't vote)
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Just a reminder: It's pretty easy to type some words on a keyboard. You would probably find the person is a snivelling coward in real life. Likely to attack you by stalking, spamming or viruses not fisticuffs.
If someone has upset you... take a 2 minute break from the computer and cool down before deciding to respond.
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As long as these new games really push the Amiga hardware and offer something new and better than the great commercial releases of the past, then fine, otherwise one might just ask "Why?"
Oh, and I'd love to see more classic arcade conversions - like Rolling Thunder, but done PROPERLY this time! :-)
Mike.
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As long as these new games really push the Amiga hardware and offer something new and better than the great commercial releases of the past, then fine, otherwise one might just ask "Why?"
Oh, and I'd love to see more classic arcade conversions - like Rolling Thunder, but done PROPERLY this time! :-)
Mike.
We would be nice if that were the case, but probably unlikely. But if someone is learning to program/do sprite work, and getting better with each game, i'd definetly play their stuff.
And one day they might get to the standard of the past (or maybe beyond).
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Just a reminder: It's pretty easy to type some words on a keyboard. You would probably find the person is a snivelling coward in real life. Likely to attack you by stalking, spamming or viruses not fisticuffs.
If someone has upset you... take a 2 minute break from the computer and cool down before deciding to respond.
Yeah, sorry one and all. He posts a lot of stuff that gets on my tits, and is just outright rude.
I'll shut my cakehole.
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If someone has upset you... take a 2 minute break from the computer and cool down before deciding to respond.
Yeah, Amen :)
Ontopic:
But is anyone going to create these games ?
Realisticly I don't think so.
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As long as these new games really push the Amiga hardware and offer something new and better than the great commercial releases of the past, then fine, otherwise one might just ask "Why?"
Oh, and I'd love to see more classic arcade conversions - like Rolling Thunder, but done PROPERLY this time! :-)
Mike.
I am 'working on' 2 games. One is a Sega sprite scaler but with superior graphics which counts. Second is a 3D shootem up from a fake game shown in an 80s TV show but hell I like it :roflmao:
I am also working on some pre-calculated theories for an A500/1200 wolfenstein style FPS. After all that I may do a 1 level SF2 demo in 256 colours with arcade sourced graphics just to see how bad US Gold botched it.
I don't expect everyone to like them but I am doing them for free and because I want to see them exist :)
As to offensive comments being bandied about here.....I will let my games speak for me.
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Yeah, sorry one and all. He posts a lot of stuff that gets on my tits, and is just outright rude.
I'll shut my cakehole.
lol nah man keepit up, he's bum chums with one of the mods here that's the only reason he got unbanned because he is always negative, never has a single comment worth reading or only posts off topic bollox to derail some excellent threads.
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All genres, because the best is we will have new Amiga games.
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Just a reminder: It's pretty easy to type some words on a keyboard. You would probably find the person is a snivelling coward in real life. Likely to attack you by stalking, spamming or viruses not fisticuffs.
If someone has upset you... take a 2 minute break from the computer and cool down before deciding to respond.
You'll find I'm no sniveling coward and will say whatever is on my mind to whoever I'm talking to. I don't know what the purpose of bringing up fists is though. Taking verbal discussions, no matter how heated or how "rude" it is, to physical attacks, is retarded. Don't do that.
You just can't keep it polite, can you?....
*whaaaa whaaaa* Life sucks, get a helmet. Contribute to the talking, or go be an irrelevant sissy in another thread. :)
What a dumb poll. I don't want anything of those, but I want top down racers, strategy games, peaceful building/growing games (where you grow cities, imperium, roads, grass, snails or similar stuff) and all should be multiplayer games (serial, tcp, local).
(I didn't vote)
I'm sorry you feel it's dumb, seriously.. I don't like top down racers or building/growing games... so I don't really feel like making stuff I don't like. Also, you can see what I mentioned about doing strategy games...
I know I'm basically giving some people the shaft since I don't like racing, sports, or building/growing games... but, if I try to make any of these games, they will likely suck since I will not be enjoying it while working on it.
As long as these new games really push the Amiga hardware and offer something new and better than the great commercial releases of the past, then fine, otherwise one might just ask "Why?"
Well a lot of the hardware pushing is going to be up to pixel-dude. If I myself am the one forced to do the art, run away screaming. It ain't going to look good. Parallax and shit is pretty easy to do from a code stand point. Drawing it? Impossible! (For me!)
You'll also find that things go one of two ways.
1) Game comes out relatively quickly, and is average/OK, usually fun, for a homebrew effort
2) Game takes like 8 years to come out, lots of drama, empty promises, delays, problems, and nonsense occur, and then... if the game comes out, it's pretty commercial-quality..... but took 8 frigging years. No ones getting paid like the commercial developers were. A steady paycheck for the effort is a nice motivator, and a reason to keep working. Often, coding projects turn into all nighters, etc. When you have a real job too, this is not really possible.
Yeah, sorry one and all. He posts a lot of stuff that gets on my tits, and is just outright rude.
Sissy. Toughen up. If you don't like it, oh well. Don't post in the thread.
I'll shut my cakehole.
Please do. At least when I'm being a "twat", I keep it thread-relevant.
But is anyone going to create these games ?
Realisticly I don't think so.
Well, I would like to work on something, but if a ton of people are going to keep being pee-pants because I'm rude/not polite/a twat/whatever, then I will take my coding elsewhere.
When did everyone turn into such lightweights! :furious:
lol nah man keepit up, he's bum chums with one of the mods here that's the only reason he got unbanned because he is always negative, never has a single comment worth reading or only posts off topic bollox to derail some excellent threads.
I'm not friends with any of the mods. Might want to stop making stuff up. I got banned for 72 hours for "rampant profanity" because someone complained. As for negative, worthless, off topic....... maybe to you? Maybe sometimes? Whatever. I don't care what you think, especially if you're going to be an elitist toolbag. :)
All genres, because the best is we will have new Amiga games.
Yeah, that was my thinking too.
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I was having a weird sense of Deja Vu...
A guy with a mouth who has never coded an Amiga game and only does PC Engine games so far, asking what kind of games people want to play while advertising a website that has nothing to do with Amiga. Hmmmm.... it all seems so familiar...
Aha!
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52269
:)
So which game have you been working on these last 10 months?
You can tell us. :)
How do you feel about Turrican?
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I was having a weird sense of Deja Vu...
A guy with a mouth who has never coded an Amiga game and only does PC Engine games so far, asking what kind of games people want to play while advertising a website that has nothing to do with Amiga. Hmmmm.... it all seems so familiar...
I don't just do PC Engine. I've just only released a PC Engine game (The first for the console in 10 years, and the only one with working chiptunes).
The other stuff (MSX) is dopey for-fun stuff that I didn't release. Something for the MSX is being worked on though, that will actually be released. :)
As for the website. Uh, it will have an Amiga button added when I start an Amiga game project. I am thinking about the Amiga since I like 68k but don't like the Genesis' color limitations. First I need to get an Amiga1200 up and going again. The A4000 I had at the time was annoying/clunky/big so I got rid of it.
Aha!
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52269
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Oh yeah, I guess I did ask this before! :) I thought I did. Oh well. It's not like discussing isn't happening amidst all the whining.
So which game have you been working on these last 10 months?
You can tell us. :)
my PC Engine retrocade compilation. It's right on the friggin website. Theres a youtube video post right there, first thing when you get to the site! :)
Theres that game, along with the rest with prototypes/stuff:
The skate or die 2 game needs art, more tricks added, and play testing/control tuning. No sense in showing videos since it currently uses the Skate or Die 2 graphics, so it's not very exciting. I don't want to show a tech-demo looking thing with ripped graphics.
The Jungle Hunt clone needs more art (The BG artist is on hiatus for a bit and may be replaced). It's got a bit of a spin to the vine portion of the game that makes it more challenging than the original. Pretty fun.
Defender clone (My favorite): The current in-the-works project, has some killer art / parallax, and should have a playable demo ready to show off to people by the local CCAG show in June by my house. I'm keeping it under wraps until then. I don't want to blow my load prematurely on that one. :D
Insanity (berzerk clone) multiplayer. Groundwork has been laid for implanting 5 player support into the original. That's basically a weekend-long project since the entire games already done.
A secret, unmentioned game, is 100% done. It's a neat homage to something classic.
MSX2 game
Porting Insanity to the Xbox 360 (85%+ done)
So, yeah, I have been working on stuff? You are acting like I am not doing anything. I am just contemplating the Amiga and haven't fully committed yet.
How do you feel about Turrican?
I still don't like it. I'm sorry.
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Well, I would like to work on something, but if a ton of people are going to keep being pee-pants because I'm rude/not polite/a twat/whatever, then I will take my coding elsewhere.
When did everyone turn into such lightweights! :furious:
I'm beginning to understand why people react to these kind of things, but to put it friendly, I'm no lightweight at all!
I may not be good in coding, but I've played tons of Amiga games, even did some testing.
But to put it down a bit harder, if I were a moderator, this would be topic closed.
It's always :griping: here.
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I'm beginning to understand why people react to these kind of things, but to put it friendly, I'm no lightweight at all!
I may not be good in coding, but I've played tons of Amiga games, even did some testing.
So far the trend is leaning towards RPGs. Which is good since I like RPGs, but bad since christ, they're the most involved project. Everyone makes an RPG homebrew, and 5% of them see completion. It's not like I don't have an epic RPG planned out in notebooks that has never been coded since I have no artist for it, etc. :D
Now, what about Japanese style ones like Dragon Quest? Or does this crowd generally only like the Ultima/D&D style adventures?
Amiga does have a definite lack of Japanese style games.
But to put it down a bit harder, if I were a moderator, this would be topic closed.
It's always :griping: here.
I didn't ask people to come in and piss and moan because they've got tissue paper for skin. :) We're not babies. The real worlds a tough place. What do these people do in the real world when people are blunt/abrasive/stuff? Do they plug their ears and run away?
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It's not like I don't have an epic RPG planned out in notebooks that has never been coded since I have no artist for it, etc. :D
I think any aspiring game programmer has half a dozen of these projects; I know I do ;)
Now, what about Japanese style ones like Dragon Quest? Or does this crowd generally only like the Ultima/D&D style adventures?
Amiga does have a definite lack of Japanese style games.
I'm good with either, but I do have a preference for the JRPG style. The problem is that most homebrew JRPG-style projects tend to copy the "the gameplay is something to keep you busy in between massive cutscenes" trend of recent Squeenix titles :( I'd like to see something more along the lines of Final Fantasy V and various Nippon Ichi titles like the Disgaea series, where there's a lot of in-depth game content that's not just an afterthough while the developer shoves their sprite movie at you.
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My RPG story has evolved from an Ultima-esque adventure, to an Ys style adventure.
and then broke into two separate stories. One of the Ultima variety and one of the Ys variety. Theres alot of stuff in all these notebooks. Class was boring growing up, hah.
Ultima III on NES really was great, I'd like to make a game like that if it were an RPG. It's the perfect blend of first person dungeons, and overhead interaction, without being overwhelming or tedious.
Didn't you say you were working on an MSX1 game? :D
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Didn't you say you were working on an MSX1 game? :D
I will be when MSXdev 2011 starts up - I've just been doing a little brainstorming beforehand. Not going to be a JRPG epic, though - I only have 128KB to work with!
I do have an RPG project I've been toying with for some years now, doing music and character designs and plot scribblings, but I haven't yet made a serious effort at making it. I think it'd be a NES/Famicom title, with an upgraded Amiga port. Kind of a mix of Shadowrun, H.P. Lovecraft, and That Hideous Strength...god, I'm such a nerd ;)
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I will be when MSXdev 2011 starts up - I've just been doing a little brainstorming beforehand. Not going to be a JRPG epic, though - I only have 128KB to work with!
I do have an RPG project I've been toying with for some years now, doing music and character designs and plot scribblings, but I haven't yet made a serious effort at making it. I think it'd be a NES/Famicom title, with an upgraded Amiga port. Kind of a mix of Shadowrun, H.P. Lovecraft, and That Hideous Strength...god, I'm such a nerd ;)
I was doing MSXDEV but got talked into moving to MSX2 instead since my fellow devvers made an interesting point, theres tons of MSX1 games released, and not alot of MSX2 ones. So I just upped the graphics and moved my plans to the MSX2 :D
I am way better at MSX1 art though. Monochrome + sucking = acceptable!
My RPG is a mix of scifi/fantasy. I had ideas for an occult sequel. There arent enough occult games!
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Yeah, I'm going with MSX1 more because screen mode 2 (the tiles with two colors per line) is a major part of the MSX "look" to me - besides, I can still use some MSX2 improvements like a tweaked palette and nicer sprites, as long as I keep it backwards-compatible.
Maybe I'll finally take a stab at the RPG project once MSXdev is over...
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I voted RPG but my preferred answer would have been "Yes, Please!" Also, to save times, can they be programmed to check ocs/ecs/aga status and play nice accordingly?
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Yeah, I'm going with MSX1 more because screen mode 2 (the tiles with two colors per line) is a major part of the MSX "look" to me - besides, I can still use some MSX2 improvements like a tweaked palette and nicer sprites, as long as I keep it backwards-compatible.
Maybe I'll finally take a stab at the RPG project once MSXdev is over...
careful. They test everything on an MSX1, so if it doesn't run on real hardware, you get laughed at and such.
Retaliot last year had fatal issues like that.
I'm more for the 16 color screen5 stuff. The dithering makes me happy
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Well, I have a real MSX2 for testing - I doubt there should be much that the game I'm planning would run afoul of on MSX1, but I'll definitely be testing it on blueMSX's MSX1 models...
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Well, I have a real MSX2 for testing - I doubt there should be much that the game I'm planning would run afoul of on MSX1, but I'll definitely be testing it on blueMSX's MSX1 models...
I'd suggest buying a cheap MSX1 and a flash cart. Games that run in emulators have been known to crash on real hardware. That is pretty unfortunate. I test on a Turbo R , a 2+, a 2, and then a 1 if its a MSX1 project.
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I've got the flash cart and real MSX2 hardware, but I'm not sure I want to go buying an MSX1 system - think I'll just see if I can enlist some testers with real MSX1s...
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I've got the flash cart and real MSX2 hardware, but I'm not sure I want to go buying an MSX1 system - think I'll just see if I can enlist some testers with real MSX1s...
*waves* I've got a Nowind, Megaflash SCC, and an MSX1. :D
You can nab MSX1's cheap if you look right. AKA, avoid idiots on ebay saying they are rare. They're not rare. They're foreign. :)
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Yeah, they're a lot easier to come by than MSX2 systems, really. It's not so much the price as the shipping that's putting me off (well, that and the fact that I don't really have a need for one, as I've yet to encounter an MSX1 game that won't run on my MSX2.)
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well I've been working on an ultima/goldbox cross game for quite some time (family gives little time for coding). top down old stile ultima tiles, gold box tactical combat.. I use sdl so wont be porting to classics, but I'll make sure it runs on morphos...
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I will be when MSXdev 2011 starts up - I've just been doing a little brainstorming beforehand. Not going to be a JRPG epic, though - I only have 128KB to work with!
128kb?? lol. Ultima 6 ran on the 64.... 128kb is massive in comparison :)
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128kb?? lol. Ultima 6 ran on the 64.... 128kb is massive in comparison :)
Yeah but were talking cartridges where you can't disk swap :D and its a dev competition , hehe.
There was a great Ultima IV port on the mSX2, and then Ultima III: Exodus, the NES style one as well, for MSX2.
Really nice stuff. There were a few other similar games too. No gold box though.
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128kb?? lol. Ultima 6 ran on the 64.... 128kb is massive in comparison :)
What Arkhan said. Running in 64KB+ of transient space is no problem, but MSXdev limits the cartridge size to 128KB - even if I use compression that's probably less than 192KB of game data that I could fit. The Legend of Zelda is 128KB (I think) uncompressed, for purposes of comparison.
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Also, Ultima VI runs POORLY on the C64, and is totally awful to play.