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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: Piru on November 23, 2011, 09:44:32 PM
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AskReddit: Commodore USA has my money - I have no computer. They won't communicate. What are my options? (http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/kvku9/commodore_usa_has_my_money_i_have_no_computer/)
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Wonderful! :/
Double glad I did not order one.
On that note, my MorphOS key arrived within an hour of paying for it!!! ;)
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Sucks that guy up in Canada is getting the shaft, but the comments in that thread are friggin' hilarious! :lol:
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Wow, the blatant cash-grab from a Florida furniture retailer with delusions of grandeur turned out to be less than perfectly ethical? Who would have guessed?
Oh, that's right. Everyone.
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Wow, the blatant cash-grab from a Florida furniture retailer with delusions of grandeur turned out to be less than perfectly ethical? Who would have guessed?
Oh, that's right. Everyone.
You're just super, never forget that. Don't pay attention to what the other kids say about you, I think you're just super.
:laughing:
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Wow, the blatant cash-grab from a Florida furniture retailer with delusions of grandeur turned out to be less than perfectly ethical? Who would have guessed?
Oh, that's right. Everyone.
Uhhh... that's note really fair, now is it? One person reports that he's got a problem and that translates into an ethical problem?
I'll grant you the illusions of grandeur, though... :)
(And, no, I'm no CUSA lover...)
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Far from the first reports of difficulties with either the purchase process or the product itself. Their forums, if you get on them before the negative posts are removed read like a horror show.
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Sucks that guy up in Canada is getting the shaft, but the comments in that thread are friggin' hilarious! :lol:
Yeah like this one:
No they are not, the trademark has been passed around like a drunk hooker.
It's only funny because it's true.
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That was Hilarious! Thx.
"Should have bought an ATARI!" :lol:
Should have known, it would all end in tears.
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Or just a classic C64, but as for me my Atari 8-bits still get used way more than my C64's!
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ok, funny comments aside (admitted), do you really think it rules C=usa into fraud corner as this is a single occurence, or there is more? just theoretically, im not interested in the current product choice either way.
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ok, funny comments aside (admitted), do you really think it rules C=usa into fraud corner as this is a single occurence, or there is more? just theoretically, im not interested in the current product choice either way.
Dunno, don't care. I just want to bash on C-USA. :)
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ok, funny comments aside (admitted), do you really think it rules C=usa into fraud corner as this is a single occurence, or there is more?
FWIW a bloke over here in australia bought and received one
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?p=13518149#post13518149
so the products do exist, I don't think this is necessarily malice on CUSA's part, just incompetence :P
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Dunno, don't care. I just want to bash on C-USA. :)
XDelusion and TheGoose start throwing chairs and build fires with over turned cars.
:lol:
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They likely over sold their production. Took in more preorders than they could realistically manufacture and ship in a reasonable amount of time.
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I don't think they sold enough for that. Not judging by the tiny number of people on their own official forum.
Until we see real sales figures instead if one's that are made up, I'm suspecting they sold well under a thousand.
And by the. way, this is far from the first time I've read about this happening. Such a shame to see this done to such an iconic name....
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This Ex-Commodore and Ex-Scala guy got his and he seems thrilled about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0wCvtkcMsM&feature=related
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The question is will he still be thrilled with it when the novelty factor wears off?
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*sigh*
Is this still going on. Honestly while I have been on my honeymoon I thought this whole CUSA stuff had blown over. Maybe the guy who bought it should have looked at the fine print to see if his card issuer covers crap bought lol :rtfm:
Isn't CUSA an LLC? Could be interesting if he tries to claim the money back and they have nothing left.
Next we will probably be hearing that CUSA have bought the Amiga rights are something.
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They likely over sold their production. Took in more preorders than they could realistically manufacture and ship in a reasonable amount of time.
10?
I'm sure Spammy will be along soon to tell us that this was their 100,001 customer and he's top of the list for their second production run.
They gave him an upgrade the first time he had to wait, I think they owe him a free coffee table and sofa now.
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Yea sure, it's just one incident. The real shocker here is that someone actually shelled out $1500 for one of these things?. What the hell is wrong with these people?.
AskReddit: Commodore USA has my money - I have no computer. They won't communicate. What are my options? (http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/kvku9/commodore_usa_has_my_money_i_have_no_computer/)
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Next we will probably be hearing that CUSA have bought the Amiga rights are something.
Yes they bought the rights from evil Amiga Inc.(ompetent)
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Yes they bought the rights from evil Amiga Inc.(ompetent)
Are you yanking my chain or been serious? If serious then I fear the world literally had gone bat crap insane.
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They not not bought the rights, they are licencesed to sell
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Are you yanking my chain or been serious? If serious then I fear the world literally had gone bat crap insane.
As JJ says, it's a license, not a purchase, but yeah, Barry's decided that the obvious people to go after are high-end workstation customers, because if they're already paying $15,000 for a PC then surely they won't mind dropping another $1,000 on a branded case! (Of course, I'm sure their "I dunno, ask Ubuntu" support policy will be very competitive with the warranties offered by actual, established workstation vendors.)
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The comments on that reddit thread should prove to CUSA the reaction of the "non-retro" community about their products, if they were ever in doubt.
Along with this one
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/mar0r/has_anyone_tried_the_commodore_os_yet/
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This video was just...awful. And inappropriately epic. They may as well have scored it with Lux Aeterna.
Was that for real? I thought it was a parody of some sort.
:D
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I note nobody else has added that they too are in the same boat.
It's bad for the individual involved, but appears to be a one-off.
Should be straightforward to contact his credit card company and problem will be solved.
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I note nobody else has added that they too are in the same boat.
It's bad for the individual involved, but appears to be a one-off.
Should be straightforward to contact his credit card company and problem will be solved.
except that not everybody posts on that site (I've never even heard of it until this thread), and I don't even see anyone in that thread that has ordered another one. It's like looking on Ford sites from people complaining about their Toyota.
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It might be the one person complaining about it to the world. but it doesn't mean that there won't be others that won't have gone through this. In fact I sure that I have seen some complain on their site that this has happened to them too. Though, as if by magic, a week later one has turned up.
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Wow, the blatant cash-grab from a Florida furniture retailer with delusions of grandeur turned out to be less than perfectly ethical? Who would have guessed?
Oh, that's right. Everyone.
I would like it if they made an Amiga 600 or 1200 replica. I just can't see my self using the Commodore 64 keyboard.
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I notice that spammer extraordinaire Dammy is conspicuously silent for once.
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Give it chance. I am sure he will turn up.
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except that not everybody posts on that site (I've never even heard of it until this thread), and I don't even see anyone in that thread that has ordered another one. It's like looking on Ford sites from people complaining about their Toyota.
Are you kidding me? I too don't read reddit, but I am aware of it and it is in fact one of the top 1000 websites in the world. It gets massive traffic.
I think your analogy just doesn't work. If I have any problems with merchants, I go online and search for people with the same problem. It is a totally natural thing to do, I have no doubt if there are others in this predicament then they would find their way there. Reddit is all things to all people, not a specialised Toyota forum.
Don't you think if Piru could find more cases he would have posted them too????
I'm no fan of commodoreusa, but I don't see the point in beating on them for something that appears to be isolated and could happen to any company. So far this is not indicative of a systemic problem.
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I'm not really clear on the purpose of this thread other than to create seasoned panic against C=USA.
Just because some customers order hasn't been fulfilled doesn't mean there are major problems with the company.
There seems to be people actively willing the company to fail and that seems unhelpful to put it mildly.
Yes their prices are high but it seems they are targetting a specific market; producing in low quantity will always result in high prices whatever the commodity.
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I'm not really clear on the purpose of this thread other than to create seasoned panic against C=USA.
Just because some customers order hasn't been fulfilled doesn't mean there are major problems with the company.
There seems to be people actively willing the company to fail and that seems unhelpful to put it mildly.
Let's not forget here that C=USA are basically representing us Amiga users - like it or not, people outside this community will tar us with the same brush as the C=USA people. So if C=USA rip people off, then it makes the real Amigas (whatever they may be) look bad.
Yes their prices are high but it seems they are targetting a specific market; producing in low quantity will always result in high prices whatever the commodity.
But that's not their target. According to them they're aiming at very high quantities (and high prices).
As for why not more people are complaining - that's easy. It's not because other people didn't get what they paid for, it's because hardly anyone stumped up the cash in the first place!
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I haven't really been following the whole Commodore USA thing too much but whatever you think about the way they do business, you have to give them credit for a least getting a 'new' HW product produced and in punter's hands.
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I haven't really been following the whole Commodore USA thing too much but whatever you think about the way they do business, you have to give them credit for a least getting a 'new' HW product produced and in punter's hands.
Except this Punter. (Isn't that a transfer protocol?)
I have read plenty of people who have gotten their 64X and VICs and the reviews have been mixed. As stated somewhere else, the magic was in the discovery at the time they originally existed. Anything else is just a boob job.
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I just can't help but find it funny that this overpriced PC "gives you that 80's buzz" and then up comes an AMT BIOS screen. At that point the buzz would just die for me.
Better off with a Keyrah and a C64 case with your own mobo choice (maybe a Minimig). Cost a lot less too and is arguably more genuinely Commodore.
As far as I'm concerned CUSA is a stain on a once great name but as far as the customers go, well if you pay that sort of cash for a PC of that spec your a freakin' moron and I don't give a damn if you get screwed. I have no time for such idiocy.
For true C64 fanatics, ebay for a C64 or a C one at 333 Euros are far better options anyway.
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I don't think they sold enough for that. Not judging by the tiny number of people on their own official forum.
Until we see real sales figures instead if one's that are made up, I'm suspecting they sold well under a thousand.
And by the. way, this is far from the first time I've read about this happening. Such a shame to see this done to such an iconic name....
They've sold enough that they still share a phone number with a Bathroom Fixtures company and a fax number with a Therapist.
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I haven't really been following the whole Commodore USA thing too much but whatever you think about the way they do business, you have to give them credit for a least getting a 'new' HW product produced and in punter's hands.
That's a load of shít. Tons of companies produce products, doesn't make them good companies. CUSA has been abrasive and arrogant to the CBM/Amiga community, they're selling mediocre hardware with poor industrial design for well over its actual worth, they've mislead about their OS "vision," and their Dear Leader is an ******* with delusions of grandeur. They've long outstayed their welcome, and it's time to stop pretending.
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Well, ignore them then and shut your cakehole...
That's a load of shít....They've long outstayed their welcome, and it's time to stop pretending.
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Well, ignore them then and shut your cakehole...
Will ignoring the Westboro Baptist Church help? No. While they might have a few disciples, they mostly annoy the **** out of the rest of the world.
C=USA is my personal WBC.
Never ignore or turn your back to the the stuff you feel is wrong.
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Well, ignore them then and shut your cakehole...
When the bad man comes just bend over this barrel and bite down on this leather belt....
.....that philosophy is sure to make the world a better place.
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AskReddit: Commodore USA has my money - I have no computer. They won't communicate. What are my options? (http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/kvku9/commodore_usa_has_my_money_i_have_no_computer/)
Not defending CUSA.. but I can honestly say that I have sent them 3emails asking for information on the Vic computer line with no reply. I posted on Commodore-Amiga.net and got a reply. CUSA is I believe changing websites and not sure if emails are getting through.
I just assume CUSA is very busy atm, and probably a little bit understaffed?? I'm just passing on what I know. Be patient, I guess is all I can really say. Try to take a deep breath, I know easy for me to type, but you will get your machine I am sure of it.
But there really is no excuse for them not responding to a "paid" customer. What model did you buy??
Rich
ny
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Not defending CUSA.. but I can honestly say that I have sent them 3emails asking for information on the Vic computer line with no reply. I posted on Commodore-Amiga.net and got a reply. CUSA is I believe changing websites and not sure if emails are getting through.
They've been changing websites for months.
I just assume CUSA is very busy atm, and probably a little bit understaffed??
Busy with what?
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Both websites share the same email address. So it's not even a case of sending an email to one site not getting through to them. We have seen their response to both potential and actual customer queries. So not responding to emails is no big surprise really.
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Both websites share the same email address. So it's not even a case of sending an email to one site not getting through to them. We have seen their response to both potential and actual customer queries. So not responding to emails is no big surprise really.
Ah.. mmm. Ok, and not good.
Rich
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They've been changing websites for months.
Busy with what?
I did not know, interesting.
I just figured things were moving along a CUSA. Retail stores, this "big announcement" coming soon etc. etc.
Rich
ny.
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I have been in contact with OP regarding this issue. He is currently supposedly going to receive his computer finally, though it is not in his hands at the moment. If he updates the status I will post a reply.
Thanks friends.
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That was Hilarious! Thx.
"Should have bought an ATARI!" :lol:
Should have known, it would all end in tears.
PsssT Don`t give Barry ideas. He might make Commodore USA Atari ST!
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I have been in contact with OP regarding this issue. He is currently supposedly going to receive his computer finally, though it is not in his hands at the moment. If he updates the status I will post a reply.
Thanks friends.
Another talking head forums account of C-USA. You do realize that the fire is going to get so big on the poor experience on the user end, you simply won't be able to snuff it, right? I've read dozens of bad experiences with these products and this company on your own forums, and it all gets swept under the rug on your forums. Threads removed, users banned. Remember that guy that bought a C64x and his wifi wouldn't work, and his system was too physically hot to even touch? I am sure he remembers it clearly.
That's what LLC's are for, I guess.
Welcome to A.org!
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I was really surprised when I saw "C64x Reviewed By Tom's Hardware" on the commodore-amiga.org home page.
Then I realized that the review (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/commodore-64x-c64x-ex-C64x-Price-Release,13888.html#xtor=RSS-999) wasn't a review.
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AskReddit: Commodore USA has my money - I have no computer. They won't communicate. What are my options? (http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/kvku9/commodore_usa_has_my_money_i_have_no_computer/)
Burn your self in front of their HQ. Frie `em and do world a favour. Give up :-)
Next famous line is their final answer on current sales:
""There are all manner of estimations out there that we neither confirm or deny."
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I was really surprised when I saw "C64x Reviewed By Tom's Hardware" on the commodore-amiga.org home page.
Then I realized that the review (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/commodore-64x-c64x-ex-C64x-Price-Release,13888.html#xtor=RSS-999) wasn't a review.
It looks like a news. From Toms Hardware expected that they test it against some similarly priced x86 system(s).
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Yea sure, it's just one incident. The real shocker here is that someone actually shelled out $1500 for one of these things?. What the hell is wrong with these people?.
The same thing that's wrong with people who will pay $3000 USD for the 7 year old technology in an X1000....it's called stupidity.
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We are in agreement there!. I don't think I would have paid $3000 for an A4000 back when they were state of the art!. I think the netbook they are talking about putting out and second hand Mac's for MorphOS is much more realistic for most of the folks here.
The same thing that's wrong with people who will pay $3000 USD for the 7 year old technology in an X1000....it's called stupidity.
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The same thing that's wrong with people who will pay $3000 USD for the 7 year old technology in an X1000....it's called stupidity.
I think you are wrong. Those are not the same things.
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I think you are wrong. Those are not the same things.
Think what you will. Sorry, but I call them like I see them. There's nothing intelligent about spending $3000 on as-yet unreleased hardware that is based on 2004 technology (beta test hardware aside). It might make sense if this was an antique business, but this isn't the antique business. It's about technology.
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@ferrelsl
There's a massive difference between spending $1500 on a bog standard PC in a pretty case (and not receiving it, it seems) and spending $3000 on low-volume custom hardware.
We know you don't like the X1000 - but calling people stupid just because their priorities are different to yours? Come on.
The X1000 is to some people worth the money. It's not to you, so don't buy it, that's fine. But please appreciate that other people have different priorities - calling them stupid is not the way.
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Think what you will. Sorry, but I call them like I see them. There's nothing intelligent about spending $3000 on as-yet unreleased hardware that is based on 2004 technology (beta test hardware aside). It might make sense if this was an antique business, but this isn't the antique business. It's about technology.
I have to disagree, even though I myself agree with the assessment that the X1000 sure as hell ain't worth $3000. As others have said, there's a big difference between shelling out megabucks for something that's just a cheapo PC board in a (poorly-designed) novelty case, and paying that kind of money for something that's actually a real, different thing. (Not enough of a difference to convince me, but that's a matter of degree, not nature.)
This isn't about raw technological horsepower for everyone; if it was, the question would be, why bother buying anything but a PC to begin with? Some of us do like to have different computers, even if they're not competitive computers.
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I will NEVER EVER buy a machine from Commodore USA ( SleepyITDude... remember me C= USA? LMAO!!!).
They are overpriced pieces of crap.
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@ferrelsl
There's a massive difference between spending $1500 on a bog standard PC in a pretty case (and not receiving it, it seems) and spending $3000 on low-volume custom hardware.
We know you don't like the X1000 - but calling people stupid just because their priorities are different to yours? Come on.
The X1000 is to some people worth the money. It's not to you, so don't buy it, that's fine. But please appreciate that other people have different priorities - calling them stupid is not the way.
I didn't call anyone stupid. I said the concept of spending $3000 USD on outdated technology is a stupid concept. And just because something is made in low-volume doesn't justify the high price. The low-volume might mean that it cost the manufacturer a fortune to produce it, but that doesn't mean the product has the same worth as the production cost. Companies go out of business all the time for such poor business models....overpriced and underpowered products makes for poor sales, which in the end puts companies out of business.....which is where they belong for producing such crap.
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Another talking head forums account of C-USA. You do realize that the fire is going to get so big on the poor experience on the user end, you simply won't be able to snuff it, right? I've read dozens of bad experiences with these products and this company on your own forums, and it all gets swept under the rug on your forums. Threads removed, users banned. Remember that guy that bought a C64x and his wifi wouldn't work, and his system was too physically hot to even touch? I am sure he remembers it clearly.
That's what LLC's are for, I guess.
Welcome to A.org!
Thanks for the welcome. I have been here since the beginning. The only other post I have made is my discovery that the iWin website went offline. I am an active member of the Reddit community and I contacted OP and offered to help him out any way I could. He informed me that it was coming. If you wold like to know what I actually do for a living check out my website: http://www.partycentralsupplies.com Unfortunately I do not sell furniture, computers and smart microwaves just party supplies.
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Thanks for the welcome. I have been here since the beginning. The only other post I have made is my discovery that the iWin website went offline. I am an active member of the Reddit community and I contacted OP and offered to help him out any way I could. He informed me that it was coming. If you wold like to know what I actually do for a living check out my website: www.partycentralsupplies.com (http://www.partycentralsupplies.com) Unfortunately I do not sell furniture, computers and smart microwaves just party supplies.
Hello Dammy.
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Hello Dammy.
Do I look like Dammy to you? Besides isn't he from Australia? I don't live in a penal colony thanks.
http://partycentralsupplies.com/about%20us.html (http://partycentralsupplies.com/about%20us.html)
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Wow, Canada!
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Do I look like Dammy to you? Besides isn't he from Australia? I don't live in a penal colony thanks.
http://partycentralsupplies.com/about%20us.html (http://partycentralsupplies.com/about%20us.html)
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I certainly hope you have bigger tits then I do, and some hair on your head. No, I'm from Canada South, also known as South Florida. It's 81F and partly cloudy, just the way I like it and judging by the license plates I see, half of Canada does to.
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I certainly hope you have bigger tits then I do, and some hair on your head. No, I'm from Canada South, also known as South Florida. It's 81F and partly cloudy, just the way I like it and judging by the license plates I see, half of Canada does to.
Oh I see you are from the USA. Also known as Canada's shorts.
http://i.imgur.com/ffsM4.jpg
Pic is NSFW if your Boss has no sense of humor. Click at your own risk.
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I certainly hope you have bigger tits then I do, and some hair on your head. No, I'm from Canada South, also known as South Florida. It's 81F and partly cloudy, just the way I like it and judging by the license plates I see, half of Canada does to.
Actually only the old people from Canada like Florida, those who are young stay in Canada because it's hard to obtain Kokanee beer in the states and how are you supposed to have a party without Kokanee? Drink Budweiser and Coors Light??? :barf: No thanks.
Also Justin Beiber, Celine Dion, and Nickelback all moved to the USA from Canada. Do you think that a Canadian is going to risk going into the same country that they live in? What if they happen to run into them? What if they started SINGING???
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Actually only the old people from Canada like Florida, those who are young stay in Canada because it's hard to obtain Kokanee beer in the states and how are you supposed to have a party without Kokanee? Drink Budweiser and Coors Light??? :barf: No thanks.
Also Justin Beiber, Celine Dion, and Nickelback all moved to the USA from Canada. Do you think that a Canadian is going to risk going into the same country that they live in? What if they happen to run into them? What if they started SINGING???
Celine is a customer of mine, nice family. Her house is a water amusement park on Jupiter Island.
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Celine is a customer of mine, nice family. Her house is a water amusement park on Jupiter Island.
Please give her good service, mow her lawn, pick up her dry cleaning, braid her hair, make her feel that Florida is her new home, just do whatever you can do to ensure that she does not move back to Canada. The Canadian Government has already had to issue several official apologies to the rest of the world because of her singing. After she did a cover of "I drove all Night" NATO threatened air strikes in retaliation. We only have a dozen or so CF18's, we wouldn't last a day.
Canada is a country rich in natural resources, if Celine moves back and records another album it could give the United States just they excuse they need to launch a military invasion to "liberate us"
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Canada is a country rich in natural resources, if Celine moves back and records another album it could give the United States just they excuse they need to launch a military invasion to "liberate us"
Why own the cow, when we get the milk for free?
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Celine is a customer of mine, nice family. Her house is a water amusement park on Jupiter Island.
What does she buy from you? A C64x?
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Why own the cow, when we get the milk for free?
Yeah your right, we do sell most of our stuff to the Americans. Plus I think a US invasion would be great because we haven't burned the White House down in a couple hundred years and I think most Canadians would like a chance to have a nice wiener roast and s'mores.
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Oh dear! It's all happening again!:lol:
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Nuthin' to see here, folks! Move along!
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Oh I see you are from the USA. Also known as Canada's shorts.
http://i.imgur.com/ffsM4.jpg
Pic is NSFW if your Boss has no sense of humor. Click at your own risk.
Pissing on Cuba.
I rather like it in Florida.
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This situation has happened to me with the Viva Amiga documentary, I paid 100 U$ and I didn't receive answer about if I'll get the documentary package.
I think that there are much hustlers in the Amiga community and that the Amiga doesn't give money.
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This situation has happened to me with the Viva Amiga documentary, I paid 100 U$ and I didn't receive answer about if I'll get the documentary package.
I think that there are much hustlers in the Amiga community and that the Amiga doesn't give money.
Yeah sometimes I honestly believe that I could run some of these outfits better myself. Then I remember that I run a business that sells products, generates a product and has satisfied customers and my belief changes to certainty.
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Yeah sometimes I honestly believe that I could run some of these outfits better myself. Then I remember that I run a business that sells products, generates a product and has satisfied customers and my belief changes to certainty.
Also there are serious and professional people in the Amiga community, but the few bads do much harm in this difficult times for the Amiga.
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How did a party planner from Lethbridge (just south of me, ironically) become "the person" to reach out to a dejected C-USA customer that felt screwed over? Why didn't C-USA deal with this, and post here?
1 + 1 is equaling 121.23 here, and I'm not even loaded yet.
What interest did you have in going to bat for this fellow that claims to have been screwed by C-USA on a sale (via the Reddit story), and why would you come here so fervently claiming it was "sorted out"?
How was it sorted out, and why didn't the person that ordered said computer from Commodore USA come here and let people know rather than some party planner that hasn't posted before, lol. No disrespect intended, but it's more *******ed convoluted than an episode of Soap.
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Remember that guy that bought a C64x and his wifi wouldn't work, and his system was too physically hot to even touch? I am sure he remembers it clearly.
Didn't some of the original Commodore 64s catch fire? Maybe they overheat provide a more authentic experience.
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How did a party planner from Lethbridge (just south of me, ironically) become "the person" to reach out to a dejected C-USA customer that felt screwed over? Why didn't C-USA deal with this, and post here?
1 + 1 is equaling 121.23 here, and I'm not even loaded yet.
What interest did you have in going to bat for this fellow that claims to have been screwed by C-USA on a sale (via the Reddit story), and why would you come here so fervently claiming it was "sorted out"?
How was it sorted out, and why didn't the person that ordered said computer from Commodore USA come here and let people know rather than some party planner that hasn't posted before, lol. No disrespect intended, but it's more *******ed convoluted than an episode of Soap.
I am a reddit member, saw this post on AO and decided to find out if he needed any assistance. I offered to try to contact C= via twitter since he apparently was having trouble communicating with them. It's basic Reddiquette to help out other Reddit members in need. I thought I could help him as I have helped my husband out when dealing with online vendors that have screwed up so I offered my assistance. Being nice and trying to help out your fellow man is not far-fetched in my life, but perhaps if you are a cold hearted and callous person you cannot fathom why I would offer to help a complete stranger. Anyways I am beginning to remember why I haven't posted anything on here since ~ 2001. Seriously guys give your head a shake.
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Also there are serious and professional people in the Amiga community, but the few bads do much harm in this difficult times for the Amiga.
Oh yes I should have been more specific, the service I have received from Amigakit and Individual Computers have been beyond excellent and I'm sure there are other C= related companies that give excellent service. I do not think I could do better than them. I only mean I think that I can communicate and supply my customers better than the "bad apples" of C= related companies.
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You will have to forgive me then for not simply seeing your kind nature as such then - but C-USA on these forums have been nothing but insulting, patronizing and in some cases outright deceptive. In some cases it's even bordered on complete harassment, one person that runs a prominent OS geared website that gave them bad press was slandered and called a homosexual, so anyone going to bat for said company raises a lot of eyebrows. There's likely hundreds of threads on the popular Amiga forums sites that this has occurred at, collectively. People have asked questions on their forums and got banned or outright patronized, etc. The list goes on and on.
Anyone coming here swinging at bat in their name in any resemblance is generally seen as just an "alt" forums account of one of the C-USA minions - hence the reason you got accused of being Dammy virtually immediately.
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You will have to forgive me then for not simply seeing your kind nature as such then - but C-USA on these forums have been nothing but insulting, patronizing and in some cases outright deceptive. In some cases it's even bordered on complete harassment, one person that runs a prominent OS geared website that gave them bad press was slandered and called a homosexual, so anyone going to bat for said company raises a lot of eyebrows. There's likely hundreds of threads on the popular Amiga forums sites that this has occurred at, collectively. People have asked questions on their forums and got banned or outright patronized, etc. The list goes on and on.
Anyone coming here swinging at bat in their name in any resemblance is generally seen as just an "alt" forums account of one of the C-USA minions - hence the reason you got accused of being Dammy virtually immediately.
Maybe you did not read my other comment that I have been here since the beginning. I just do not post. I rarely post on message boards. I am aware of all C=USA's shenanigans and their beef with osnews. I did not defend them I just passed along the message that the two indeed had spoken and that he was getting his C=64x, but as far as I know he does not have it yet. For a community that is shrinking a more intelligent and logical move would be to greet "new" members instead of insulting them. I am a part of the Amiga community and have been since I upgraded from a Vic20 to a 500 but if I was just coming in from Reddit and curious about the platform my curiousity would have ended after meeting "the community" but as I have already been visting this site daily for over a third of my lifetime I doubt I will stop. Next time think carefully before you speak, the world will be a better place for it.
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two indeed had spoken and that he was getting his C=64x,
How can you possibly know that. Sorry coming quite late on this, if this is an agreement is still unsatisfied, the case is still pending, getting and got are two different premises. Your getting a million dollars, does not mean you got a million dollars.Until the this "Contract" has been satisfied by both parties no amount of oh its all better now by anyone changes the situation. CUSA are legally obliged to explain to the customer where and when delivery will occur or provide a refund if this is not satisfactory. Post haste.
You can speculate or try to muddy the water but until either one or the other is satisfied, CUSA is liable.
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I assure you, I did think very carefully "before I spoke", so can the patronizing tone.
If I hadn't, I would have simply said what everyone else familiar with the C-USA here was thinking, which is:
"Oh super, Barry enlisted the help of one of his forums drones to liven the mood and distract people on A.org away from the fact that a guy on Reddit reportedly was screwed out of a system he ordered in APRIL. Was told it was being sent, then was upsold on the next model, couldn't get in touch with them again, now some random stranger is here to confirm said system is again 'in the mail' ".
And the Reddit article stands as it did when it was linked earlier in this thread, with zero confirmation from the original poster and purchaser of this system that the system is being shipped. If you feel I have been unfair to you, someone who has stated that you only wished to help the fellow having the issue with C-USA, I've already apologized if that is indeed true - but please spare me from the "world would be a better place" speech, lol.
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I have a hard time taking this redditor seriously given that in a previous comment on the site he asks about having anal sex with a dental training robot. This could all just be a troll. It's just as likely that the guy never ordered a product as it is that CUSA hardcore dropped the ball.
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I have a hard time taking this redditor seriously given that in a previous comment on the site he asks about having anal sex with a dental training robot. This could all just be a troll. It's just as likely that the guy never ordered a product as it is that CUSA hardcore dropped the ball.
LOL! priceless! please point us there, please :-D
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Y'know, I despise CUSA as much as anybody, but this witch-hunt attitude is a little unnerving.
...'course, maybe that's because I just finished Quatermass and the Pit, but still...
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Feel free to insult me, call me names and generally be mean and nasty for no reason.
I am stupidly posting onto this message board (on a site I visit everyday for over a decade but don't post due to the poor attitude)
I received a message on reddit. Gentleman has his computer.
Merry Christmas
http://i.imgur.com/JhqNw.png
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Thank you for letting us all know. Although many of us deeply mistrust the current owners of the Commodore name, it's good to hear both sides of the story, the bad and the good. Pleased for the original poster. :) (merry xmas!)
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Thank you for letting us all know. Although many of us deeply mistrust the current owners of the Commodore name, it's good to hear both sides of the story, the bad and the good. Pleased for the original poster. :) (merry xmas!)
Thanks I was really thinking of not posting due to the excessive amount of insults/flaming I received for no reason last time I posted. It seems that passing along some information makes you an employee for C=USA even if you run a party store in Canada.
I personally have not purchased or done any business with C=USA so I have no opinion on the matter. But what is clear is that they didn't get him the computer right away but he did receive it in the end. (These are facts, do not flame)
Thanks for the holiday wishes as well.
I will go back into lurk mode.
In the meantime Keep the party going.
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Glad to hear he got it sorted... :-)
I bet the CUSA haters aren't so happy though...
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I think that most of the haters would love to be proved wrong actually. But then they're not really haters, they're just people who distrust C=USA.
Not all, of course. Some people just love to hate. As far as I can see though, C=USA are the owners of the Commodore name whether we like it or not, so if they turn out to be the real deal and able to deliver more than just promises and a fancy case for a PC, then I for one will be very happy.
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C=USA are the owners of the Commodore name
Are you sure it wasn't more a case of them working -towards- that end when this happened?
source (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=28292&forum=17&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#644883)
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I know it's off topic a little but I don't fully understand all this legal stuff lol. How does all this effect their buisness as it stands. Is there a possibility that the license will just disolve?
As for what spirantho said...
I don't hate CUSA so much as don't trust them. If they can 100% show that they are willing to play ball with the communities and help bring the brands back out of the shattered slums they are in then I am more than willing to change my views. Yet we have seen in the past, including recent past, that tey are still a little too immature to do anything.