A-EON Technology and ACube Systems strengthen strategic alliance

[kolla]

(Who, not whom, btw - "playing on the conscience" is the subject of the sentence.)

If you are to pretend you are a grammar nazi, at least learn to analyze sentences. ... "playing on conscience" is something I rather identify with another group, guess whom - (guess with which group, guess with whom).

[kolla]

Matthey, you are aware that most Amiga users are running some version of UAE and are perfectly happy with that?

[kolla]

.Stick it in a nice case like the X500 and in mini ITX format with fast FPGA, 060, DVI/HDMI, RTG running AmigaOS 3.9 with a custom theme and put it in toy stores at first and it would get lapped up.

And returned within a week as it does not run the software "most users" expect any computer to run. What you ask for already exists as much more capable and cheaper systems.

[kolla]

The FPGA Arcade is the base standard now (68020+AGA+RTG) and if the spec or cost can't be beat then it is better to work with Mike to produce the FPGA Arcade in larger quantities (lowering the cost) than to compete against him.

Good greef no, leave MikeJ alone! ACube can grab his stuff when it is released, and do whatever the license allows them to.

[Senex]

will that minimig plus be better, faster or more compatible than fpgaarcade or mist?

I don't know if the specification has been changed now, due to the cooperation, but one year ago, the Minimig Plus was planned to equal an Amiga with 68030 CPU at 30 MHz. Furthermore it was intended to have space enough for an AGA core.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Matthey, you are aware that most Amiga users are running some version of UAE and are perfectly happy with that?

They are?  Really?  You're getting this data from where?

[itix]

They are?  Really?  You're getting this data from where?

I think Kolla is right.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I think Kolla is right.

I would really like to see Kolla for once post a link to some cold, hard facts.  Not that I really care, but just for argument's sake.  :lol:

[kolla]

They are?  Really?  You're getting this data from where?

Everywhere. All my ex amiga friends have UAE installed on some sort of device, I do too, on several, as do many NG users too. WinUAE download numbers could be fun to look at. Sales numbers of AmigaForever. UAE4All, FS-UAE, eUAE... just the number of different UAE implementations hint at its popularity.

[Lurch]

And returned within a week as it does not run the software "most users" expect any computer to run. What you ask for already exists as much more capable and cheaper systems.

You've missed the point, as I mentioned Nostalgia and all things retro are the flavour of the month.

Just check out Steam and all the games emulating 8bit and 16bit style graphics, there are a lot of the new generations coming through that have an interest too.

Set it up with a menu front end with WHDLoad to play the Amiga back catalog and for those that want to delve further into what is an Amiga can.

I'm still blown away why kickstarter isn't being used as well, the exposure on there is far wider than a couple of Amiga forums.

To be honest most Amiga hobbyists seem to be scared that their little community will be invaded.

Too many naysayers and negative people in the Amiga scene. Anything new mentioned gets torn apart and developers move on.

[Lurch]

As for commenting on WinUAE vs real hardware one can't really make any statements without seeing facts and figures.

[Boot_WB]

If you are to pretend you are a grammar nazi, at least learn to analyze sentences. ... "playing on conscience" is something I rather identify with another group, guess whom - (guess with which group, guess with whom).

How appropriate, you fight like a cow!

(I disagree with your analysis of the grammar, but really it was just a counter to the "hooby level" comment )

[wawrzon]

I don't know if the specification has been changed now, due to the cooperation, but one year ago, the Minimig Plus was planned to equal an Amiga with 68030 CPU at 30 MHz. Furthermore it was intended to have space enough for an AGA core.

so it has no advantage in comparison to fpgaarcade or mist. i wonder why the interested people dont simply get an available devices instead of waiting up vague announcements. perhaps it is waiting and hoping, what enjoys them most.

[alphadec]

wow this sounds interesting maybe they have picked up the interesting for fpga classic amiga.

if they comes with a classic amiga (fpga) with updated hardware I WILL BUY ONE.

[matthey]

Matthey, you are aware that most Amiga users are running some version of UAE and are perfectly happy with that?

I don't know about most but many are happy with UAE. I have UAE+AmiKit installed here on my used PC (<$100 U.S. but more powerful than any AmigaOS 4 hardware) and it is nice for some things but I still prefer my real Amiga which is not held hostage by a foreign OS (even with SMB networking setup between the Amiga and PC). I believe there would be a draw to hardware that is cheap and convenient (many people with a fast PC still use slower smart phones, tablets and netbooks) and enhancements to the Amiga custom chips and CPU would become difficult for UAE to emulate (MMU emulation already can't be used with UAE JIT for example).

I don't know if the specification has been changed now, due to the cooperation, but one year ago, the Minimig Plus was planned to equal an Amiga with 68030 CPU at 30 MHz. Furthermore it was intended to have space enough for an AGA core.

The DragonBall CPU was mentioned but it is only a faster 68000. There are several problems with that...

1) Much AGA software assumes at least a 68020 CPU (AGA was never released with a 68000 CPU)
2) Much non-AGA software assumes at least a 68020 CPU
3) AmigaOS 3.1 was the last to support the 68000
4) Finding 68000 only versions of programs is a pain
5) The 68000 is old and much less efficient for complex programs and/or programs >64kB (huge size at the time of processors advancing from 8 to 16 bit)

I don't expect compatibility can be good with the DragonBall past the late '80s and ECS. The TG68 CPU in a large but older Cyclone III (like Majsta targets with his new accelerators) with CPU+chipset beats it and this is not expensive. It may even be cheaper to produce the board without the DragonBall although it could be used for I/O and menu operation (the DragonBalls may already be purchased).

[Iggy]

You guys are really a bunch of pissers.
OK, many of you want some weird continuation of your obsolete hardware.
I get that.
Personally, since legacy capability is easily emulated today, I couldn't care less.

It's amuzing that so many of you want to speak for "most of us".
I don't intend to do that, but I will throw in my two cents.

I LIKE what A-eon and Acube have managed to produce.
And I am throwing my spare change into NG.
Why? Because its forward thinking, as opposed to the bizzare idea of continuing to insist on register level compatible hardware, further development of the 68K processor, and trying to polish that dead turd OS 3.X.
Honestly, I can see mantaining classic hardware for its nostalgia value, but trying to update it at this point?
Sorry, that just seems silly.